Wilder vs Fury 2: The Rematch - page 2.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2019, 08:54:14 PM

Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

I'm sure it is still a go, Fury will just have to win his next match to secure the rematch with Wilder. As I have said, they have verbally agreed already. And it makes sense for them to really go at it one more time as we all know that the first fight was really controversial.

@pereira4 - I think it easier to cherry pick at this division because it is not as stack as let's say a Welterweight. The thing with the Joshua fight is that Andy Ruiz is a replacement and it's possible that he underestimated him as others have pointed out.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2019, 08:54:14 PM

Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

But I still want to see both fighters go against each other again, that would be a blockbuster because honestly, that previous match could go either way, Fury can pour a lot of punch and Wilder rely heavily on his knock out power, it's something that should be resolved in their second match.

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Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

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Quote from: hulla on August 05, 2019, 05:50:19 PM

Even without the personal life issue of Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

If you take boxing technique and skills Tyson Fury is far better than a brawler and a heavy puncher like Deontay Wilder but the most amazing thing about Wilder is that he just weighs around 205 pounds and that is crazy that he is fighting as a heavyweight and the amount of power he has in that frame to knock out a very heavy boxer is incredible, both have their own skill sets and i would love to see the rematch. Tyson Fury does not bother about physical fitness all the time but his boxing skills are incredible and the most interesting part is the power versus technique displayed by both these fighters.

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I imagine he'll get at least another warmup fight in between, hopefully with somebody noteworthy like Pulev, and then he'll dance around Deontay once again.

Deontay wont allow him to dance around as he found the whole in Fury defence and almost KO him in the end of the match. I think Deontay will make conclusions of that and end match before 12 rounds ends.

I will not bet on neither sides, but I guess i would pick wilder for the win if it ever happens, maybe he is going for a solid knock-out this time or else fury will get most of the points and never again to be judge a draw like the first fight. 12 rounds of the past is an experience for each fighter and can be used can be used as an advantage to get the win, I do believe in heavy punchers and if this time it goes in, maybe fury won't be able to stand again in another fight.

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Tyson = Left hand; Fury = Right hand Cheesy

This means he’s punching herself together with that two hands of him?😂😂

I wonder what will happen to him after the 12 round🤪🤪

Anyway about wilder vs Tyson’s fight?let the game decides soon ,but for me I am with Wilder on this one .sorry but I am not a Tyson’s fan 👍👍✌🏻

Am a Tyson those days that he's emotionally healthy, but now I don't have confidence on him. He's got more previous problems dealing with his personal life, so it could probably affects his performance. Being healthy starts from within. Definitely if he's fighting with Wilder, I think it won't be 100% as good as his old days. Let my bets go to Wilder, because I am confident that he could win over Tyson.

Even without the personal life issue of Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 05, 2019, 03:32:59 PM

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I don't believe in cherrypicking anymore in HW. Unless you really pick a massive dosser, if you pick anyone half competent, you risk ruining your career like what happen to Joshua.

When you are cherry picking make sure you do not underestimate an opponent, Andy Ruiz has more than 100 wins in amateur competition and he is a national junior Olympic gold medalist and if Joshua picked him to show his skills as a late replacement in the US soil that was his mistake as he should have picked someone else, if Jarrell Miller was the opponent against Joshua he would have won the fight but he under estimated a chubby boxer and paid his price Cheesy

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Wilder vs Fury rematch is a much anticipated fight and if Fury have to win he should knock out Wilder which is an impossible task and the judges will not grant Fury a win by Unanimous decision in American soil Cheesy

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Well there could be cherry picking in heavyweight division but the problem is that those guys can pack a punch because obviously they are bigger guys. I'm sure Joshua really did thought that the chubby Andy Ruiz is no match for or at least he under estimated him. If the fight goes to distance, I'll go with Fury.

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I don't believe in cherrypicking anymore in HW. Unless you really pick a massive dosser, if you pick anyone half competent, you risk ruining your career like what happen to Joshua.

When you are cherry picking make sure you do not underestimate an opponent, Andy Ruiz has more than 100 wins in amateur competition and he is a national junior Olympic gold medalist and if Joshua picked him to show his skills as a late replacement in the US soil that was his mistake as he should have picked someone else, if Jarrell Miller was the opponent against Joshua he would have won the fight but he under estimated a chubby boxer and paid his price Cheesy

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Wilder vs Fury rematch is a much anticipated fight and if Fury have to win he should knock out Wilder which is an impossible task and the judges will not grant Fury a win by Unanimous decision in American soil Cheesy

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I'd go on Fury UD for this fight, with a slim chance of KO of course. We all know how insane Wilder's punches are if it connects, but for the most part, he just swings around aimlessly and somewhat more of an egoistic person, far from being composed like what Tyson Fury shows in the ring, and that speaks on his performance on the ring. This would be a good fight to watch considering how much trash Wilder already dropped on Fury for right even before the fight starts (reminds me of Pac and Thurman, but we all know this happens in boxing a lot.) Anyway, 2020 is still a far off date to ponder on and I think Fury has something in line for him this coming September, so Wilder would have to take notes.

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Deontay Wilder slams Tyson Fury for agreeing to fight Otto Wallin

https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/04/deontay-wilder-slams-tyson-fury-agreeing-fight-otto-wallin-10515480/

Wilder has described Wallin as a ‘night shift graveyard worker’ and has mocked Fury for calling himself the lineal heavyweight champion.

When asked about Fury’s decision to face Wallin, Wilder told Fighthype: ‘What is this? What’s going on here?’

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 31, 2019, 11:13:29 PM

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Why this topic is called "Tyson vs Fury 2" ? Tyson Fury is one person Cheesy

so called Gypsy King.
Or spectators will see Fury doing shadow boxing ? Grin

To be honest, I didn't noticed that title (me stupid) until I read your post Cheesy

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Anyway, I have watched their fight and I don't think it must be end with a draw although it happened. In my opinion, both of them may face 1-2 fighters first before they will face in the ring for the second time and maybe this can happen next year. I don't want to predict to this fight but Wilder has found a good opponent now.

OP needs to update the title.

That controversial draw might that have a good decision after this rematch, if the fight happen for sure boxing fans will be excited seeing both of them will try to win and show to the world who really deserves to get the title, hope this will materialized and bring more entertainment to the boxing fans.

Yeah, maybe the controversial decision might get people hype to see the rematch between the two. There's been a lot of trash talk between the two eversince the controversial first fight. As for the rematch, I didn't see any changes though, Wilder will swing early and Tyson will show us his defensive prowess, but I'm seeing Wilder might get lucky and hit Fury flush to score a KO victory.

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Quote from: mich on August 02, 2019, 01:22:28 PM

Well it doesnt look like Tyson will be fighting himself any time soon

Tyson Fury To Fight Otto Wallin On September 14 In Las Vegas

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-fight-otto-wallin-on-september-14-las-vegas--141396?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

BoxingScene.com also has learned that the Fury-Wallin fight will headline a card September 14 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Top Rank had considered taking Fury’s next fight to TD Garden in Boston, but he’ll fight a second straight bout in Las Vegas.

It's unfortunate, but they should do a rematch, people love to see them go for it again, there's uncertainty, and debate if who really wins and a match that has no sure winner should be resolved, I expect them to go against each other again in the future.

Why would it be unfortunate? They're going to do a rematch next year, there's some verbal agreement between the two already. Tyson Fury just wanted to take advantage to make more money prior to the fight. They need to hype it out and I'm sure Fury is wise enough not to lose to Wallin this September, just taking fight to keep his busy so that he won't fall on another 'personal' issue that he had before.

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Quote from: mich on August 02, 2019, 01:22:28 PM

Well it doesnt look like Tyson will be fighting himself any time soon

Tyson Fury To Fight Otto Wallin On September 14 In Las Vegas

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-fight-otto-wallin-on-september-14-las-vegas--141396?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

BoxingScene.com also has learned that the Fury-Wallin fight will headline a card September 14 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Top Rank had considered taking Fury’s next fight to TD Garden in Boston, but he’ll fight a second straight bout in Las Vegas.

It's unfortunate, but they should do a rematch, people love to see them go for it again, there's uncertainty, and debate if who really wins and a match that has no sure winner should be resolved, I expect them to go against each other again in the future.

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Well it doesnt look like Tyson will be fighting himself any time soon

Tyson Fury To Fight Otto Wallin On September 14 In Las Vegas

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-fight-otto-wallin-on-september-14-las-vegas--141396?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

BoxingScene.com also has learned that the Fury-Wallin fight will headline a card September 14 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Top Rank had considered taking Fury’s next fight to TD Garden in Boston, but he’ll fight a second straight bout in Las Vegas.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 31, 2019, 09:09:14 AM

Fury got knocked down like 2 or 3 times in the first fight. I know he’s a good boxer but I don’t think you can viably claim to have won a fight if you get put on your ass multiple times in a fight. We will see what happens but I think Wilder settles the scores here & takes the win.

Hope you are talking about the 9th round where Deontay Wilder landed one heavy shot and then in the 12th round where everyone thought he will not get up from that heavy handed knock down and still he stood up and won those rounds, if a fighter is winning most of the rounds and then a knock down happens that does not mean it could be a draw, Tyson Fury won majority of the rounds and we score the fight according to the rounds won and not according to the amount of knock downs Tongue

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I agree with you, Fury should have won the fight, he took away most of the round it's against those rounds and the two knockdowns by Wilder, in my own computation, Fury should have won the fight by majority decision. he fully dominates Wilder.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 31, 2019, 09:09:14 AM

Fury got knocked down like 2 or 3 times in the first fight. I know he’s a good boxer but I don’t think you can viably claim to have won a fight if you get put on your ass multiple times in a fight. We will see what happens but I think Wilder settles the scores here & takes the win.

Hope you are talking about the 9th round where Deontay Wilder landed one heavy shot and then in the 12th round where everyone thought he will not get up from that heavy handed knock down and still he stood up and won those rounds, if a fighter is winning most of the rounds and then a knock down happens that does not mean it could be a draw, Tyson Fury won majority of the rounds and we score the fight according to the rounds won and not according to the amount of knock downs Tongue

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Quote from: pereira4 on July 31, 2019, 06:55:01 AM

Nobody made a thread for this yet as far as I can tell, so here we go. The megafight is scheluded to go down somewhere next year. Who do you got? Im betting on a Tyson 12 round unanimous decision. He just has to avoid getting clipped again by Fury. In my book, Tyson fury won the first match. Las Vegas judges decided to ruin my weekend again my going for a draw, ridiculous. I accepted GGG vs Canelo 1 as a draw and that was pushing it a bit, but this one, even considering the knockout, was a Tyson tight but fair win on the decision.

PS: Actually Bob Arum claims the fight is possible this December. They may want to avoid another Ruiz incident because promoters stretch buildups with filler fights too much until someone that wasn't supposed to win, wins and ruins the whole thing (or makes it even more fun).

Tyson vs Fury ? What are you talking about? It's the same person "Tyson Fury", you were drunk? Cheesy

If you are talking about Fury vs Gambler II, it's already scheduled for 22nd February 2020
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jul/07/boxing-tyson-fury-says-deontay-wilder-rematch-agreed-february
Please be more careful when you open a thread in this section, there is already way too many spammy garbage posts here.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 31, 2019, 08:36:18 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 08:11:20 AM

Why this topic is called "Tyson vs Fury 2" ? Tyson Fury is one person Cheesy

so called Gypsy King.
Or spectators will see Fury doing shadow boxing ? Grin

To be honest, I didn't noticed that title (me stupid) until I read your post Cheesy

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Anyway, I have watched their fight and I don't think it must be end with a draw although it happened. In my opinion, both of them may face 1-2 fighters first before they will face in the ring for the second time and maybe this can happen next year. I don't want to predict to this fight but Wilder has found a good opponent now.

OP needs to update the title.

That controversial draw might that have a good decision after this rematch, if the fight happen for sure boxing fans will be excited seeing both of them will try to win and show to the world who really deserves to get the title, hope this will materialized and bring more entertainment to the boxing fans.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 08:11:20 AM

Why this topic is called "Tyson vs Fury 2" ? Tyson Fury is one person Cheesy

so called Gypsy King.
Or spectators will see Fury doing shadow boxing ? Grin

To be honest, I didn't noticed that title (me stupid) until I read your post Cheesy

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Anyway, I have watched their fight and I don't think it must be end with a draw although it happened. In my opinion, both of them may face 1-2 fighters first before they will face in the ring for the second time and maybe this can happen next year. I don't want to predict to this fight but Wilder has found a good opponent now.

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Quote from: DarkDays on July 31, 2019, 08:02:23 AM

I think you mean Wilder vs Fury 2.

In fact, I've noticed that you mistook Fury, Wilder and Tyson multiple times throughout your post, do you even know what you're talking about?

Deontay Wilder vs TYSON FURY is slated to occur in early 2020, contracts have already been signed according to both Fury and Wilder.

As for my prediction, I expect that Tyson Fury will win (again) by UD. Wilder does have a good chance, but I expect less than 40% odds he wins by KO.

Wilder CANNOT win on points.

Like you said, contracts have already been signed and with the respond made by Fury camp there high possibility that fight will happen this year but I won't underestimate Wilder if I were you because the guy is totally awesome this days as fitness and shape is concern.

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