Topic: Will AIs steal Bitcoin? An Experiment (Read 598 times)

This is a wild experiment but honestly why even risk it? AI platforms weren't made for storing crypto and even if nothing happens now, who knows how this data is handled in the future? If the coins go missing, it'll be a lesson in never sharing sensitive info even with AI. Either way, I wouldn't bet my BTC on it!!

Exactly, the blockchain is written in codes. Alphabet and numbers and what the entire internet understand are the prompt from the codes giving. An Ai will not go beyond some certain limit unless the operator has assigned that as a task for it to complete. For something like this to happen, a human must be involved to push any authorization and if there is a bridge he can write new prompt that will pass that step. Humans can do a lot of things, AI is somehow limit to what humans can do because they rely on the information fed to them by Humans.

AI without an operator will give a normal result. But with the help of a woman anything is nearly possible.

Even if no coins go missing, this experiment doesn't mean AI is safe for storing sensitive data. The fact that the AI recognized the seed phrase is concerning enough. If I were Matteo, I'd also consider whether his own system is fully secure before drawing conclusions. Crypto security should always be offline–cold storage is the way to go.

Who knows. nullama was right, though. All the addresses except for one were not funded at the time of his post and when I last checked them on the blockchain after seeing his reply. It's also true that users on X informed Matteo that the addresses he posted have 0 bitcoin, and he never came back to address those people or to tell them that the coins are elsewhere and he just made a mistake posting the wrong BTC addresses. He is still silent on the issue.

Why lie though? Anyone could have checked (which obviously someone had) so what would be the point of this? Maybe it was really just an honest mistake.

I had a thought that maybe sharing the address would motivate others to invest in this research he is doing but then I realized if people do send out bitcoin to the researcher's addresses, the bitcoins might be stolen by him before AI tech companies do lol. Certainly if someone brought this experiment up and asked for some donations, no one would have believed him and this would end up in a BEWARE post.

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Now this is an interesting topic and its something I have thought about on several occasions. Mostly I think though that if there is going to be an AI to steal crypto it will be developed by a Threat Actor Group and utilized on larger scale operations. This already happens today with some input from TAs already and AI has really turned a Junior hacker into a Varsity Hacker/Professional hacker as well.

It will go missing if somehow the image is also being trained on the upcoming LLM model, if not, then nobody gonna get it, also new LLM already give a safety measure for something confidential like this, I bet his money won't go missing but there's always a chance that something happen knowing that the data could very well be seen by the AI developers I guess.

LLM doesn't store your data in their model, the company does, and they only retrieve your conversation from their database, but there might be some LLM or agentic AI that is created for stealing people's money by executing some code maybe it's possible.
at least that's what I know.

Yes, it would be, but I think I remember reading something like this already happened.

Im not sure if the algorithm would be able to automatically sort the data with 100% accuracy. There could be some errors, and some data that should be private could be released.

I do not think that any coins will go missing. But I do think that giving AI your seed is a novel way of getting your wallet hacked

AI can’t steal the coins because programs do not have use for money but humans do. I’m sure if he had deposited a reasonable amount of money in those wallets, someone would have moved them by now. I think everyone will agree that $10 bitcoins is not worth the damage to a brand name.

Well, if it's there's a faulty in the AI system then many people will be able to access it but if isn't then it's exactly what you said however, if what I said in my previous post means that people will be able to steal the bitcoin. It's still better not to depend on AI or something the same although if the one who did the experiment willing to take the risk and can afford to lose the funds used for the experiment then I'd love to know the result of it.

But if someone did that, then it would be easy to find who did it.
The people who have access to AI chatbots' database are not countless.
Therefore, a simple investigation would easily lead to the breach.

I don't think the AI will tamper with his assets using the phrase. However, I have always been conscious of the fact that these bots are managed by someone. Information is also gathered , and saved by the bots and from the bots, remember? Those maintaining the AI might access information, if they want to...am just thinking. So it's not entirely safe, I think.

Even though we don't know if the experimenter will give us accurate findings and not alter his findings. I strongly will stick to what I think is safe for me.

AI won't steal the coins but if a person was able to get the details of the wallet from the AI like if there's a loophole that will make the AI reveal the seed phrase then it's possible that a human will steal whatever is in the wallet. The question is, does the AI reveal the seed phrase to a human who used the AI and make it reveal the seed phrase. Anyway, I don't know how the AI system works but as I have read that the AI will clear itself like the inquiries and others.

The last time I checked AI's don't store people's questions or inquiries in a way that can be recalled identified, after every active session the Al clears itself so I doubt there will be possibility of stealing any of the coin from the different wallets used for this experiment. AI only uses the data generated from our inquiry to retrain it's model.

With this said if the AI doesn't store questions or inquiries then there will be no information in the database for the db engineers overseeing the AI to steal from.

The experiment is actually an empty one and we saw that the coin in DeepSeek hasn't been spent it's still intact in the UXTO. Which can a hypothetical conclusion that AI won't steal our coin neither can the db engineers but it's not worth risking our seed phrase as well

ai technology works by reading the database it has, but depending on the prompt from the user, ai can respond by giving seed phrases or not at all. so we need to see who can make the right prompt to get the seed phrases from the database, and i'm also curious about who successfully did that.

Yeah that fits and is right and it makes sense if we think about it. if there is only personal as his personal thesis. AI app just good at generating and not set for bad things in my opinion..

Matteo's experiment is thought provoking but there are too many unknown factors, his device security, seed generation process and whether the AIs retain data. If a wallet is drained, it could be from an entirely different vulnerability. Regardless of the outcome, the safest approach is to never share a seed phrase with any digital platform, AI or otherwise. I'll be watching the results with interest.

I don't doubt this is possible if you create an AI agent who has deep access to a Large Language Model. However, the LLM itself would not be able imo because this is not what it was designed for. It is designed to react to human queries.

What would be needed is some kind of "fake consciousness". This looks like some ultra-advanced sci-fi but would be simply a routine regularly executing certain kinds of queries. It has to be trained to query the LLM to reach certain goals.

I think the current state of technology doesn't allow such an auto-query process covering most aspects of human life or even the field of a professional worker, as this would be very close to an "AGI" already. But a "specialist fake consciousness", e.g. a program all the time trying to create and improve ways to earn cryptocurrencies, would be probably possible.

One could for example start first with some kind of trading bot and then improve it giving it more information/context about ways how crypto can be earned. The next step would be to let him discover new ways to earn, and finally, auto-improve this "game" until it becomes good enough to solve Pellegrini's "puzzle".

It seems at first difficult to set apart such an AI from a traditionally programmed program (humans simply tell them how to search for the data). However, as LLMs are very large and complex, it can be difficult to find such an algorithm traditionally, so some form of AI training would probably be needed for this kind of program/agent.