Topic: Will all the world hold China responsible for corona-v (Read 444 times)

You mean kind of like how China has been doing daily for decades to foreign investors among others?



YES. THIS. This is exactly why I suspect they were responsible for this outbreak and it was intentional. This allows them to throw a wrench in the world economy and delay the world becoming independent of them at a time when the cracks are showing in their own economy, they are losing control of the population domestically, and their international facade is falling. This is China making a preemptive strike signalling the beginning open warfare.

China has too much economic leverage over the world for proper retaliation. The US already owes so much of their manufacturing industries to China so it's tough to go against a country that has your economy at it's grip. They're also taking advantage of the world wide pandemic and are conducting military exercises in the South China sea knowing that countries are using resources to fight coronavirus and aren't focused on military presence. China should absolutely pay for helping contribute to the worst pandemic in modern history and I imagine politicians are going to talk about retaliating against them and will proceed to do nothing, like usual.


They literally caused this. They aren't saving lives at all and if they weren't a communist shit hole, they could have prevented a large chunk of the damages thus far. Donating ventilators is the least they could do.

China is now saving lives in NYC and all around the world.

https://apnews.com/24b8b30cbc11c43a19e7e7aff69e4044
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-doctors-and-supplies-arrive-in-italy-11584564673

Maybe Elon Musk started Coronavirus. Why would he do this? To get people used to wearing facemasks, so that they could adapt to living on Mars easier.


Here We Go Again: China Puts County On Lockdown After New Corona Cluster Emerges

I'm kind of expecting the likes of Trump and Pompeo to use this excuse to welsh on paying off the treasuries or whatever that China bought and to appropriate any property and resources owned by Chinese nationals and Chinese firms both in the United States, and probably in other countries as well.  Africa for instance.

Probably these two won't even bother to 'bring the spoils' to the U.S..  They'll likely just hand it over to Israel right away.  Because Holocaust.

many lawyers do random lawsuits for huge amounts all the time. most never go anywhere

there will however be what is known as a public inquiry. which is were using hindsight everyone can learn from the past. and also find the mistakes.
work out if some mistakes were excusable (caution vs over reaction) and which mistakes are malpractice
after that. those affected by any malpractice stuff or anything. can then take it to court.

but for now anyone can file a claim for anything and any amount.. it does not mean things will en up in a guaranteed trial.

im not going to go into the ridiculous idea of that guys suit.
but if it had merit al local court he can escalate it to supreme, and then after that international court. where 'sanctions' can be put on a country

but these kind of silly ambulance chaser lawyers dont follow through or plan to. they just hope the other side pays up a small 1% just to go away

I just heard that an US lawyer sued China for creating thus coronavirus as a biological weapon and asking for 20 trillions USD - https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/covid-19-biological-weapon-alleges-us-lawyer-sued-china. The news can be found on several websites.

20 trillions USD means 20.000 billions USD!!!

If this is true, I'm curious about the following:
- which judge would have the guts to analyze these claims
- if the lawyer wins, how will he convince China to pay him this amount.

After all, is just a man suing a nation. Is not a trial between USA and China, nor UN or EU against China. If a country / UN / EU would win such a trial, they could force China to pay somehow. Or, at least, to issue severe penalties for China in case China would not want to pay. But a man?! What can a man do to force China to pay him 20 trillions, in case he would win this trial?!

for all to know.. timeline of events
from hindsight prospective
first patient reported feeling mildly bad on december 10th and went to a local clinic for normal flu meds and went back to work
(at this point no one knew how bad it was, no alarm needed raising)

he was hospitalised on december18th because it got worse for him and having breathing issues
(at this point no one knew how bad it was(transmittable/containable), no alarm needed raising)

it wasnt for another 3 weeks where other patients came into hospital with similar issues before they realised it was infectious/transmittable and sever for them to then raise the alarm on january 9th

any raising the alarm before that would have just possibly been causing panic before actually knowing.
i think 3 weeks from first hospitalisation till world knowing is good timing.

.. however..
UK/US knew january 9th..
yet UK/US were still even in march (8+ weeks later) still trying to say to their citizens if they live in another country or in china, come back to home countries.
it was actually america that brought it back to america by chartering 'repatriation' flights(same with UK)

also. in its first week of march UK/america have still not even got stock/space for having excess ICU beds and equipment.
also. in its first week of march UK/america have still not even asked manufacturers to make more ventilators

ok. so its now april and still hospitals want more stock. more support.

all UK/US/china could do was delay the spread happening all in one go of 100% of people in 2 months. which even with a 1% more than mild severity. would be alot of resourses needed.

this self isolation is not to cure corona or to immunise the masses magically in their own home. its to delay the spread before letting people go out.

i just find it a shame that china was prepped in february and is now in the ready to accept more patients stage. but UK/US are still not ready 2 months later

if you think that US/UK should blame china for US/UK 2 month delay. then thats just silly.
asfor explaining the 3 weeks of december 18th-january 10th..
well no one knew in the initial week if it was food contamination. or touch contact spreading virus. nor realising if it was just affecting a couple people or potentially more than 0.01% of people

anyway. this is just the beginning of the spread. 99% of people have not even had it yet to even know if they will just have a cough or need a hospital.. yep just because your at home now self isolating to not get it now. doesnt make you immune for the future.

One way to approach understanding this is to look at how regions of Russia reported their progress during the Cold War on their "Five Year Plans". Half lies all the way up the chain of command.

So rather than thinking the highest levels of China were lying to you (maybe they were, maybe they were not) you can absolutely count on those in charge of various towns and villages fudging the numbers they were sending upstream.

Another complicating factor is that culturally, Chinese don't go to doctors until they are practically fixing to die. A LOT of them are into herbal medicine, or herbal first, Western second. And this particular disease, I don't think it's very forgiving if you hit the hospital about day 10 of an infection.

Just some comments, for what they are worth...

I love how we all know that we cant trust China for literally anything -- think GDP stats -- but then you have some people being like "L000000K AT CHINA THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB" They're not doing a great job, they're literally fucking lying about their numbers like everyone else and they can get away with it because they control the media. If you're in China and you want to report against the government, you're going to die. That's just how that works.

US intelligence is now reporting and CONFIRMING that China lied regarding their coronavirus stats. - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says

Trump is also saying that he can't confirm if Chinas coronavirus numbers are legitimate - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-cant-confirm-chinas-coronavirus-case-numbers-amid-accusations-of-underreporting-we-really-dont-know

CHYNA CHYNA CHYNA.

LOL this is all bullshit
I absolutely do not trust China in terms of statistics about the situation - I am sure that things are much worse there
Thank you to the Party for a happy start of 2020!

+1 to this. China couldn't have known that the virus was going to turn out this way, but they SHOULD'VE let the public know that they were having an outbreak of some kind earlier. Not saying that would've changed anything, but it COULD have changed things.

I know that there have been reports and estimates regarding what could've been different if China had reported this earlier and hadn't just tried to cover it up. (Article Link - https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html)

As an aside to this, China is currently reporting 0 new infections, which I think is bullshit. (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/as-china-virus-cases-near-zero-experts-warn-of-second-wave)

I accept as true with you it's really strange because everyone knows that China is liable for this virus. But nobody can say anything. China itself couldn't think that its impact was so high and that they themselves were greatly affected.

Did the world hold the USSR responsible for Chernobyl?
The problem is no longer the virus itself, but the fact that it was hidden at an early stage. No one knows what is happening inside China, they are too closed and do not want to tell anyone anything.
We can't even say for sure whether 1.4 billion people actually live in China - because this figure is too high if you count all the losses for the 20th century, including the "cultural revolution" and other reformations. China is definitely to blame for the situation that we see - but the root cause is its total closeness in matters of information about the population, the REAL life of people and other things.
Just remember the Uighurs and the rumors that turned out to be true about them

The local govt of Hubei should be blamed for suppressing the info making severe consequeces. How could I thank these mfkers in the first place?

However in the other hand,I don't think that would make a valid justification for the incapability of western govt. No preparation was made by them. They simply wasted nearly two months time.

Besides, your pic only shows part truth.
Situations varied even in the same city of Wuhan. Some residents there got fair priced provision like what is said in the pic, but some others in Wuhan got food for extreme high prices. Because several local service providers (often low rank commie officials) made the lock down a good oportunity to make money by charging ridiculous transport fees.

Next time someone throws a molotov through your window and then comes in and helps you and your family get outside before you all burn to death, don't forget to thank him.

The Chinese government should first explain from which lab did this virus escape and why they were experimenting with SARS.

Were they trying to make a vaccine? Was this a containment breach? There's no denying that it came from their Wuhan province which is situated deep in the mainland.

The world should be thanking China for slowing the spread and giving an early model for how to effectively slow the spread.   The western media should be apologizing for smearing the Chinese government for taking immediate action that saved millions of lives. 

One version of a timeline (with links):  https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-the-plot-thickens-with-timeline-review/

Here's a part of it:


Edit:  Here's a link to Romanoff's latest article:

  https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-all-truth-three-stages/5706329


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I'll again present the hypothesis I put forward at the start of this thing probably several months ago now:

 - Third country attacks, or using their control over U.S. government apparatus makes uses the U.S. to attack China.  Also leaves a wide trail of bread-crumbs leading back to the U.S..  (Bolton's departure is still shrouded in mystery by the way.)

 - China counter-attacks the U.S. in kind.

 - Both the U.S. and China are severely weakened or perhaps destroyed in the conflict.  Rest of 'the nations' suffer significant collateral damage.

 - Third country steps in to fill the vacuum.

I considered this still to be in the conspiracy theory category. If it was intentionally planted by the US soldiers, US should have the vaccine by now and not relying from other pharma companies to produce one. If only Chinese have been more open regarding the investigations before it spreads globally, maybe they have already identified the real source of it. Now that the whistleblower died and many others, how can they make a thorough investigation for what had happened?

I personally find it quite believable because of the behavior patterns of Trump and his team.

Whether intentional or not, more and more circumstantial evidence, and more and more hard science is stacking up indicating that the first cases occurred in the United States.

From the Trump side all we have is 'because we say so' type assertions that 'China is to blame' with no evidence provided.  They seem to be relying almost exclusively on a sense of patriotism where in order to be a 'red-blooded American' one has to believe with conviction anything uttered by an American official.