Topic: Will capitalism last forever? (Read 2048 times)

I'm all in favor of true market capitalism remaining for all time as it is what raises the standard of living for the most amount of people. However, what we have today is crony capitalism or fascism where big business runs big government like a revolving door by using the lobbyists to buy off the politicians while their lawyers right the legislation that their newly bought pols shove down our throats. Regulations, for example, have to start from somewhere and most of the time especially in modern times come from government legislation that created a bigger problem in a certain sphere and then the biggest interests jump in to make sure the upcoming changes benefit them first and foremost.

Free markets are rare. For example, most the problems in the USA that are marked as coming from the free market by liberals actually find their origins in governement intervention.

Nothing lasts forever

the actual system is called the united nations...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations

look they "believe" to own the world, and to be able to decide which plants/animal/what ever, for sure not I my name...



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/United_Nations_Members.svg/320px-United_Nations_Members.svg.png

 

Simple the united NATIONS is a pack of nations preying on the individuals, imagine your national gov supercharged. And now add the bad twist of the allowed foreigners, you get the super mix, ie all criminals together against you. Moreover like you see in the map now what do the PEOPLE DO? furthermore the embraces of the ctrl+p model of the usd on the sdr illustrates the "values" behind it. The American Dream is incompatible, in the sense that it was based on individuals, free people, pursuit... blah blah. eat gmos, drink frak fluids, criminalize plant, take vaccine, watch implosion, population drop, etc etc... all by design. how to liquidate the us constitution and bor otherwise? the problem is that the American real leadership isn't innocent (and I don't speak of those executing it right now)... everything stops once in a while, it's called peace, or it isn't. and there is no defense (to be understand empire size) in peace. simple. there are still cops, but they are not global, nor national, but locals, ie they are from the people, by the people, for the people... frankly it's not so hard to get... you just like imagination, creativity and the will to execute the plan. what's the plan, depends on who you are. In Peace true plans don't involve armies (real, empirelike), nor violence, nor death of innocents etc etc etc. but you don't need global overlord to impose common sense, unless disguise in walking, like the co2 bs to impose un troops (inspectors) on China Soils, dream on... as guest, renters but not as master. it's not a warning. it's written. and you don't want to experience the transition from writing to

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I dont see how the transition towards other system could happen, but i still await a reply for this one: how in hell is capitalism supposed to function in the future then 99% of jobs are going to be automated by machines? I ask.

it ended the 16 September 1777. the 1.

The fact that so many 'muricans actually believe capitalism will last "forever" speaks to both our historical amnesia as a nation and a shocking lack of critical thinking skills. I blame religion.

I think all economic systems go through peaks and declines but capitalism is pretty steadfast in its nature, though it can swallow itself alive if it runs rampant (see financial collapse). Maybe socialism will have a rebirth or hopefully not some sort of fascist communist system will rise up though I think we're certainly heading that way any way with all this spying and snooping going on. I think I may have to read 1984 and Atlas Shrugged again soon  .

I think capitalism will evolve into another "ism" as we time goes on and not much changes is happening that helps the society and the community. What will happen if capitalism fails in a country? what will be the next alternative?

We don't have capitalism, not in sense that banks should have collapsed and NOT be injected with tax payer money ( and that right there is the highest level of authority to denounce it imo)  So call it what you will...It aint capitalism, not free market anyway. Sort of makes the question moot in a way even arguing semantics.


It's bullshit, we've reached peak bullshit.

Professor Richard Wolff's Global Economic Update: March 2015

If we are to evolve into a better and more advanced society then capitalism wont be possible,there wont be a place for it.

Economy is primairly driven by energy, and i like to believe that in the future it will be free to all and in unlimited quantities, and since we are already
replacing human workers with machines, at some point there will be no more need for working force, working man will be free.

We are in transitional period it seams, and tech actually is making even more difference between layers of people, but at some point that will have to stop.
Also, population growth would need to be regulated, so the fight for land would stop.

In the end what would be the purpose of money? Just to say you have more something than somebody else? I believe we will outgrow that nonsence.

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One of the best systems in the world is the legal system, the ancient laws of the Bible... the laws Moses gave.

If you took all the ceremonial laws out of the government of ancient Israel, and added a little bit of strength to punishing judges for false judging, you would have the best... if it was combined with Bitcoin for free trade.

In a nutshell, without the ceremonial parts, their law allowed you to do anything as long as you didn't harm your neighbor, damage his private property, or break a true contract. The punishments were eye for eye, tooth for tooth, property for property, etc., in cases where there was harm or damage done - punishments matched the crime. There wasn't any welfare. People relied on family and friends for support if they needed it. That's it. All other laws were considered temporary or local, and harmed nobody. Even when they went to war, the laws for it were temporary, and were based on other nations harming them.

Very true. But their are still cults that practice human sacrifice.

Something as yet unimagined.

Outright slavery, human sacrifice, or other barbaric practices are unfathomable to civilized people today. The past is usually bizarre from present perspective, as is the future.  The future will change us even as we cling desperately to the ways of the past. This is inevitable.

The ways of modern people will seem downright barbaric to our ultra-empathic great grandchildren.

Maroon 5
I love that song anyway

Yup, Nothing last forever, even us...
Humans...

But, actually i hope capitalism last forever
You know... it's good to be a capitalist

It might not die in its entirety, like most isms and believes some ancient ones are still being kept alive by small groups of people. But eventualy a new form of ism will evolve and take over. Probably led by science, like bitcoin came and slowly is evolving the financial world as we now it. Bit too slow, but hey, I can wait!

It might have it's ups and downs but I think it will always rebound eventually. What system could possibly replace capitalism if it did indeed die like you propose?

Capitalism can't last forever.Social systems are mortal.Like the human beings who compose them, they are born, mature, decline, and eventually die.The history of capitalist society shows it is no exception. It too has moved from birth through maturity to decline, and is now approaching death.

I think that has yet to be determined.

Capitalism can last forever, because it's most similar to the laws of nature...survival of the fittest.

The question is whether innovation will continue fast enough to provide the majority with jobs or if the people without jobs will grow faster, thus calling for social assistance and turning capitalism into socialism.