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freedomno1

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Quote from: jerol31 on March 10, 2015, 08:50:35 AM

What do you think? Will capitalism last forever?

Yes and no, there will be some elements of capitalism well into the future
As an economic system perhaps it would not exist and be surpassed by a better one, either that or they build on capitalism so much it would be strange to call our capitalism, capitalism 200 years in the future.

rosh

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Capitalism, in its current form, may not last forever.
Like everything else, it will evolve.
Excesses of the free market economy may be tempered, but it may still be called capitalism.

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Only change is forever. Everything else blinks into and out of existence in a fraction of a cosmic second. All of human history is a mere heartbeat to the universe. Our rise to dominance on this planet and eventual extinction will go unnoticed as the briefest, tiniest flicker of light in the vast cosmic darkness.

To say nothing of an already dying, unscientific primate hhierarchy justification system that has only existed for a few hundred years.

In my opinion as an usually smart primate, capitalism has ~20-30 years left.

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No, it won't. Both capitalism and the banking system will crash.

In the Revelation in the Bible, the world banking system is called the City of Babylon. You can see it by matching the description of the Revelation Babylon with the banking system of today.

You can also find the place where it talks about the dragon, Satan, coming up from the abyss to burn Babylon with fire. When you examine things a little further, you will find that Satan uses the unbelievers of the world - also the believers in false gods - to do his dirty work of burning Babylon.

Revelation is full of literal things, and it is full of figurative things. Possibly the burning and crashing of the Twin Towers in 9/11 was the symbol of the devil dragon using the unbelievers to crash the banking system, Babylon.

It is happening right now. The banking system is on the slippery slope downward. The Revelation expresses that the actual final failure of the banking system will take only 1 hour. When you see the fiat banking system actually collapse worldwide, so that people can't buy and sell like before, that means that the devil is in control, and the the return of Jesus is very imminent.

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If Humanity persist long enough we will transcend all current ideologies, political, economical or religious, if not already obsolete, eventually capitalism will belong to the past.

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True form of capitalism never existed in the first place but as long as their is people there will be a mix between free market and state controlled.

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Quote from: (oYo) on March 10, 2015, 04:35:56 PM

Yes indeed, the resources for your 3d printer must be acquired somehow, but the printer itself is essentially self-replicating. Have you seen this video?
Markus Kayser - Solar Sinter Project We have sand and sunlight in abundance.

The problem isn't necessarily in whichever political system you ascribe to, but I believe it lies within human nature itself, in its (luciferian) desires to exploit and dominate.

Scarcity is manufactured. Money is as a way of rationing. Materialism is not satisfying. Corruption is inevitable.

Just wait

! Recently I've learned that the Hungarian govt a couple of years ago wanted to sell the usage rights of the wind (according to the local law the air-space above 12 meters is the property of the state) to a foreign company, and heard some rumours about some regulatory initiatives for solar energy usage... so carefully with that free and abundant sunlight.

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I believe we would be much better off with a 'gift economy', which seems far more natural. I don't see any other lifeforms on this planet using money, yet they seem to be doing just fine without it.

Working in small(ish) communities but difficult to organize in big ones.

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Capitalism, maybe, because, as others have said, it's natural. Democracy sure won't.
Democracy, as we have it now, is in other words idiocracy, since most people in the world are uneducated morons, but these morons have the majority in choosing what's best for us all.

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Quote from: Snail2 on March 10, 2015, 04:04:11 PM

Quote from: (oYo) on March 10, 2015, 03:20:39 PM

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Quote from: dloghwak on March 10, 2015, 09:10:17 AM

Nothing lasts forever. Roll Eyes

Except for capitalism. Like that other poster said, as longas there are people willing to sell stuff, capitalism will continue to exist

More accurately as long as people are willing to BUY stuff. Forever is a long time though, and already we can imagine that through the popular use of 3d printers (for example) there may come a time where people will no longer need to buy things. Eventually we may even have 'replicators' like in Star Trek.

You will still have to buy some GMO plastic stuff to top up your 3D printer

. You also have to buy the printer unless the state gives that for you but in that case the state have buy it... except if its a full blown communist system where the state owns everything (houses, cars, your computer and food included) and it "leasing" for you in exchange for your hard work

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Maybe capitalism is crap but who wants to live in a system where the state owns literally everything and rationing those things for you.

Yes indeed, the resources for your 3d printer must be acquired somehow, but the printer itself is essentially self-replicating. Have you seen this video?
Markus Kayser - Solar Sinter Project We have sand and sunlight in abundance.

The problem isn't necessarily in whichever political system you ascribe to, but I believe it lies within human nature itself, in its (luciferian) desires to exploit and dominate.

Scarcity is manufactured. Money is as a way of rationing. Materialism is not satisfying. Corruption is inevitable.

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Quote from: jerol31 on March 10, 2015, 08:50:35 AM

What do you think? Will capitalism last forever?

Capitalism is the natural way. If I'm good in mammoth hunting and you are good in stone axe making then the most sensible way would be exchanging let's say 0.25 mammoth for 1 stone axe and hand over the tusks to the medicine man for 2 enchantments for you missus and 3 magic beans for the kids... and there you go... you are living in an early form of capitalism

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I believe we would be much better off with a 'gift economy', which seems far more natural. I don't see any other lifeforms on this planet using money, yet they seem to be doing just fine without it.

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Quote from: jerol31 on March 10, 2015, 08:50:35 AM

What do you think? Will capitalism last forever?

Capitalism is the natural way. If I'm good in mammoth hunting and you are good in stone axe making then the most sensible way would be exchanging let's say 0.25 mammoth for 1 stone axe and hand over the tusks to the medicine man for 2 enchantments for you missus and 3 magic beans for the kids... and there you go... you are living in an early form of capitalism

. BTW nowadays besides some more advanced forms of capitalism we are heading back to these early forms aka sustainable models.

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Quote from: (oYo) on March 10, 2015, 03:20:39 PM

Quote from: WindowedCore on March 10, 2015, 09:23:38 AM

Quote from: dloghwak on March 10, 2015, 09:10:17 AM

Nothing lasts forever. Roll Eyes

Except for capitalism. Like that other poster said, as longas there are people willing to sell stuff, capitalism will continue to exist

More accurately as long as people are willing to BUY stuff. Forever is a long time though, and already we can imagine that through the popular use of 3d printers (for example) there may come a time where people will no longer need to buy things. Eventually we may even have 'replicators' like in Star Trek.

You will still have to buy some GMO plastic stuff to top up your 3D printer

. You also have to buy the printer unless the state gives that for you but in that case the state have buy it... except if its a full blown communist system where the state owns everything (houses, cars, your computer and food included) and it "leasing" for you in exchange for your hard work

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Maybe capitalism is crap but who wants to live in a system where the state owns literally everything and rationing those things for you.

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Quote from: WindowedCore on March 10, 2015, 09:23:38 AM

Quote from: dloghwak on March 10, 2015, 09:10:17 AM

Nothing lasts forever. Roll Eyes

Except for capitalism. Like that other poster said, as longas there are people willing to sell stuff, capitalism will continue to exist

More accurately as long as people are willing to BUY stuff. Forever is a long time though, and already we can imagine that through the popular use of 3d printers (for example) there may come a time where people will no longer need to buy things. Eventually we may even have 'replicators' like in Star Trek.

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As long the way people make their decisions and interact doesn't change, I would say yes.

Hot Carl

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People always need shit and other people can always make shit so there's always people willing to buy the shit they make. Capitalism is just a natural human habit unfortunately. It will never go away as long as we're around.

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Quote from: WindowedCore on March 10, 2015, 09:23:38 AM

Quote from: dloghwak on March 10, 2015, 09:10:17 AM

Nothing lasts forever. Roll Eyes

Except for capitalism. Like that other poster said, as longas there are people willing to sell stuff, capitalism will continue to exist

Yep. It's probably a destructive system and will consume itself eventually but it will always be around and will just re-grow till it eats itself again.

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Quote from: dloghwak on March 10, 2015, 09:10:17 AM

Nothing lasts forever. Roll Eyes

Even cold November rain

LOL. Does in England Grin

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