Topic: Will Indonesian ban on sex outside marriage affect businesses adversely? (Read 409 times)

As a result of the pandemic, tourism to many of these countries had declined and they have adjusted to that. Tourism contributes a very small percentage to Indonesia's GDP as well. It would be expected that a country where the majority of the population is Muslim should have a silent law on that before now and regular visitors should have the knowledge of it. To make money, businesses don't always have to be sexually provocative. I am in favor of protecting the community and its beliefs  

I think this should not be taken in a negative sense. Every country has its separate norms and custom; they promote the legitimate way for a relationship.
I think business doesn't depend upon sex as a significant factor. So it may not affect any legal business.

On the one hand, unless individuals are outside or residing together, it will be very difficult to execute the legislation. However, because there are differences between people around the world, I do not believe that a law prohibiting premarital sex will have a negative impact on their tourism businesses adversely. Family-oriented people will still go on honeymoons, anniversaries, or family vacations. Every situation has both a good and bad aspect.

I'm not sure why such strict laws are necessary, but I believe religion plays a role. Laws like this are difficult to put into practice, so I wonder how they plan to stop it. Because it will be difficult to checkmate those who break these laws. According to me, it will have an impact on business growth when a CEO who is a sex addict uses sex to keep clients loyal. Before making any deals with any female clients, they want sex. due to a trust issue.

Despite the fact that the law has been approved, it is up to the populace to adjust to it. They will find it difficult to accept it, but they will have to follow its orders. This law will encourage young guys to marry. It's also bring sanity to the Nation

some Indonesians who disagree or oppose the law only on the grounds that humans have human rights. so that people who oppose the law feel that their freedom is regulated and taken over by the government. whereas the majority of Indonesians are Muslims and they know that Islam does not allow sex before marriage, but these people have wrong thoughts blinded by human rights.


for Indonesian investment problems, I think it's fine when the law is passed. maybe some companies are affected by the law but they have started to get used to the law.
so in essence the law prohibits sex before marriage in Indonesia it will be fine

Is Indonesia big on sex tourism that such policy would dissuade tourists from visiting? How many single men/women could possibly be dissuaded by such policy and to what extent would businesses be affected?

Virtually none, would be my guess.


Which businesses would this target? Does a country with a high Islamic population really attract a level of tourism that would no longer exist if sex outside of marriage was banned. If it's longstanding policy for cultural reasons, then it wouldn't make any difference to begin with.

Odd snippet from the article:


So what about people that live together without sexual relations?

I read the article, and one of the residents said that he could go to jail as they are still not married and he has a child. He is scared that someone will go to the police and tell them their status. It won't only affect the businesses but also other people who are living peacefully, as those business owners who own hotels and lodging will surely see their income decrease, as well the economy of the country, as we all know that some foreigners will go to other countries to explore and also other girls.

The goal is to stop sex trafficking in the country. Report say 43% of trafficking victims are aged 14-17. Some experts even claim that the number of trafficking going on in the country is worst than it is reported. Right now I feel they're going extreme.
Banning premarital sex or outside marriage sex won't stop sex trafficking. People, more especially governments need to understand that you can't take people's right away just because some people abuse it and use it to commit crimes.

Talking about private life, it shouldn't really be a problem and no affect at all. But we have to face the reality that when there are tourists and sex is involved, there will be businesses that are gaining customers through the tourists will be affected if this law has been applied.

Yeah, this is the sad reality. While for men, body counts is like a supreme thing and a factor that many others are boasting for.

This is a very exciting topic to be discussed. The law in Indonesia is something that has the greatest meaning in the world, but why can the law be for the poor and not the other way around? So, of course, this will be a question for many of us, as good people, who have our own awareness that we don't need to attach importance to things like this, but because this is a question, an answer must be issued. This law is an important thing and must be obeyed by everyone, but many people or even high-ranking officials enforce the law like food that can be bought. Of course, this is a very unfair thing if you don't have ethics and morals, you need awareness for all of us so that you can comply with the laws that have been made and determined by the highest government in Indonesia.
Therefore, the people find that there is cooperation between the president and the people or even visitors so that they are more assertive in carrying out or applying the existing punishments in Indonesia.
Regulations in Indonesia for sexual prohibition will have an impact on visitors who come to Indonesia?, actually this is a wrong thought, in fact Indonesia is a country where there are many places to travel not to party which maybe a lot of people are places to party sex outside of marriage.

Yes, it will affect sex business adversely but let us look at the pros. I believe it will reduce the number of STDs, unintended pregnancies, young children becoming sex workers, and broken families, resulting in more stable households. There are some traditional family-oriented tourists who also practice specific religions; therefore, they will undoubtedly travel to Indonesia or bring their children there. Some people might even wish to relocate there.

Which it will fail, as underaged women are married to men they barely know at an age in which they should be playing with dolls... Is it not trafficking because it is their own family selling them? Another step in radicalisation, another stupid law getting the world 100 years back. If you want to fight child sex, fight poverty and start changing a culture that reduces women to cattle.

Don't think too much about what happened in Indonesia, let's look at something that happened the last few days at the Qatar World Cup which made several rules that invited pros and cons in many circles. We can see now, if they really intend to watch the World Cup live in Qatar then there is no problem for them, but if they come with ulterior motives then this is a problem for them. But have we seen that the World Cup this time was not a success based on the rules that have been made? I see this is a successful World Cup.
It's the same with Indonesia, but everyone must respect and appreciate the rules that apply in these countries. There is a saying "where the earth is stepped on, that's where the sky is upheld".
I asked in return, don't people who think this regulation is a problem when there are tourists who don't respect what is valid in their country? Simply put, when we visit someone's house, we must respect and respect the rules of the house we visit.

Of course this also applies to men. it's just an example of the worst case that happened to a woman. because if it happened to a man it would be the same.
it's not about men or women. but about all those who have sex outside of marriage. what I said is just an example.
because even if a man is caught having sex out of wedlock with his partner. then it will end the same as I demonstrated above. his honor will fall. even the women might stay away from the man.

However, such cases occur if such things are already spread. usually this is spread because the couple who has sex outside of marriage has been caught by local residents. (in grebeg / look for the meaning in the Sundanese dictionary or Indonesian dictionary).
because actually a disgrace should not be spread. and of course we must protect the honor of our brothers. the case above only occurs if a couple of lovers have free sex outside of marriage and are caught by residents or many people (tergrebeg / confused what the English language is huh ).
and such cases are rare. and usually if it happens and is found out by residents, the couple must be responsible for their actions, namely by getting married. instead the man here will be held accountable for marrying the woman.

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Sorry  OP. looks like I screwed up again by going off topic. So I won't be replying on this topic anymore.

I wonder if this thinking is only for women? Women are disrespected if they have sex outside of marriage or premarital sex, so if men do such things, will they be humiliated by their families? I don't think it's fair if it's only for women.

There will be no adverse effects. This private life that belongs to the individual should not involve interests, and even if the law is not promulgated, you should respect yourself and others. Out of morality and your own upbringing, you should not have sex outside of marriage.

oh take it easy guys. I have no problem with this topic. maybe my discussion is a little out of topic. and I have to apologize.

you don't have to apologize. because you did nothing wrong.
and because this is a discussion forum. So differences of opinion are normal. when we have different opinions it doesn't even mean we are blaming each other. but only put forward from each other's point of view.

I even like it when someone talks about my country. and I only introduce it from my point of view as an Indonesian citizen.

and if talking on the topic as I said above in the first reply. (I have done the reply twice
and three replies with this) that certainly some economic/business sectors may be affected. But the impact will not be too big. so that it will not be a big problem for Indonesia.

It seems you are not comfortable with this topic because your reactions show that you are not pleased with the news. I am sorry for starting this discussion that seems to touch on the culture and tradition of your people.
But I was only trying to unveil the economic consequences of this law. Please accept my apology.

It is also very interesting to know that your culture promotes chastity which helps to discourage sex before marriage. My tribe also has respect for the same values. But my only reservation is why is it that these cultural practices are sometimes targeted at the women or female sex. Why would females be seen as outcastes because they had sex, while the men that had sex with them are seen as superheroes? As much as the men wants to marry virgins, the women also should enjoy the benefits of also marrying male virgins too. My culture also treats women as second-class humans due to some cultural practices and I am not in support of it.

Please, sir, I respect your tradition and have nothing against it but we are just sharing knowledge.

I think this law is not easy to enforce, because power and money are difficult to manage, and some laws only control ordinary people, like the rich people nowadays, who are not afraid of the law and can bribe many people by means.

Ah, I understand that those who are not Indonesians will definitely not understand too much about this one thing (the chastity of women is highly guarded in our culture).
there seems to be a very different culture and thinking here.
and it's normal if you don't understand what @naira means.

The chastity of women (virgin) is very important in Indonesia (for the majority of Indonesians). because it concerns the honor and self-esteem of the women themselves for Indonesian citizens.
even if a woman in a village has lost her virginity as a result of having sex outside of marriage and her family finds out about it. then the woman will be considered a disgrace to her family. even the honor of the family and the woman will fall. Even everyone around him will start to disrespect him. and think the woman is a cheap/despicable woman.
in a worse case, there will be many playboy men who will start flirting with the woman. in fact I don't think the majority of men in my area would want to marry a woman who was no longer a virgin. unless the woman is indeed a widow or a woman whose husband has divorced her. because in my area everyone thinks that if a woman cannot maintain her virginity before marriage then that woman is truly untrustworthy and despicable. in our culture, the chastity of women can only be obtained by a man who has married the woman.

because we really respect women. we can't just randomly have sex with women we like who we haven't married yet. even if we like each other. We men must first show our seriousness in caring for and loving these women through a bond and sacred agreement called marriage.
it's new from a man's point of view.

and I once witnessed how a woman here went crazy (disturbed/had madness) just because a man had taken her chastity and didn't want to be responsible (didn't marry her). he became stressed and fell into a deep depression until he finally went crazy.
So that good Indonesian women will always maintain their honor/chastity/virginity until they finally get married.
that is the moral that has existed in our culture since ancient times. coupled with the presence of the Islamic religion in the archipelago, our culture is very compatible with the Islamic religion which also matches the teachings of our ancestors so that Islam is very easily accepted by our ancestors and Islam has become my religion and the majority of our religion.

so that even without laws made by the government. then we Indonesian citizens who still uphold the culture and morals that have been taught long ago will definitely apply the same rules as contained in the law that was just passed.
so that the presence of this new law is actually very welcomed by us Indonesian citizens who still uphold our culture and morals.

But I can't deny that today a younger generation is starting to emerge who prefer to adopt a culture from outside that talks about human rights and all freedoms in life. yet it is still in the minority here.

I really appreciate the responses from all my friends who are not from Indonesia who of course feel strange and may not agree with the new law in our country. But don't worry because this law is for our country and we can accept it well. because this law is in accordance with the culture that we protect and also in accordance with the religion that we profess.

and don't worry if you want to visit as a tourist. because we, Indonesia, are always friendly to tourists and have a high sense of tolerance.

notes ; Chastity here is not about the hymen. because the hymen can even be lost due to extreme sports and accidents. but it's a matter of keeping from having sex before marriage.