Topic: Will Indonesian ban on sex outside marriage affect businesses adversely? - page 3. (Read 501 times)

What's the problem for you, our country is indeed a country that has the right to anything and any policies in order to maintain its own sovereignty. I think you are consuming too much news from one side and one source for referrals. Funny

If you are Indonesian, you see that a strong country is a country that establishes its own rules, not subject to being dictated by western countries. After all, if you know Bali, then the rules for foreigners are relaxed as a form of respecting their customs. Don't pretend that one generalized rule is bad.

In all beliefs sex outside marriage is not allowed Christianity, Buddhism, and Catholicism. Even if you read the Old Testament. Moreover, Indonesia is a majority Islamic country and that is their rule.

when it comes to law and religion.. i never just look at it as a rule to just abide by because law/religion. i like to research the origins of the reasons

EG christianity banned gays because of STD's in the roman era of thousands of years ago
religion relaxed that when contraception and medication became a solution

sex before marraige was about child abuse.
sex outside of marriage was about prostitution and splitting the family up in the aftermath of the spouse finding out.

knowing the WHY's aid in what the reason for rules should exist. and if there why's are not fitting the modern abilities of today the rules should not apply

EG making prostitution and underage sex illegal means that it free's up the need to outlaw "sex outside of marriage" so that people can have sex with someone they like. to then marry them. rather then the other way round. marrying them to then find out they are crap in bed and you want a diverse

That surely will affect the tourism of that country. Most people know that when foreigners arrived in their country, it's more than the tourism that they need.
And, when such laws have been passed it'll be a basis for tourists to avoid Indonesia because they don't want to get in jail or face some problems just because of it.
That's why if there are businesses protesting on this law, it is because they know that they'll be affected by it.

The law is very unexpected, given the real life and the 21st century we live in. Since it is going to affect not only the citizens but also foreigners, I think it will have adverse economic effects because I am not sure foreigners would want to live in a country or even visit a country where they can be imprisoned for living together and having sex without marriage. Harsh legislation can also play a negative role when it comes to foreign investments, as it signifies an unstable political climate (if they can imprison people for sex, what's going to be banned next?). Outside Indonesia, though, I don't think we'll feel the economic impact of this decision.

I don't think it will have a significant impact on the Indonesian economy in connection with the passage of this law, especially regarding investors, in my opinion, it is just a trick for those who have businesses like that, and if such entrepreneurs want to continue operating they can do it in secret.
I think the Indonesian government is now playing it safe from sentiment with the people there.
Talking about investment, Indonesia has received sizable investment funds from big countries for the advancement of its industry at the G20 Summit last November in Bali and I see that Indonesia prioritizes the use of existing natural resources and even stops exporting abroad for domestic production. Naturally, if Indonesia no longer pays attention to such industries.

This is one of the most foolish decisions ever. This will expose the largest profitable sector in the economy (tourism) to a decline to record levels. Of course, do not believe that this law will prevent people from having sex outside marriage, because this is human nature that cannot be restricted by customary provisions.
The most logical explanation for issuing such a decision is that Indonesia will receive support from one of the major Islamic countries, such as Saudi Arabia or Qatar, and it needed to prove that it is a real Muslim country, since Indonesia is the country with the largest number of Muslims around the world.

Yeah it will affect some part of their business that is somewhat connected to tourism because the tourists coming from other countries don't have such laws  and they are use to socialising in such ways. In this case, they don't have much choice than to adapt to the new laws if the government is not ready to make any form of amendment.

Its their country and their policy doesn't seem to be harming anyone unless they are violating it but how they are going to implement it? I don't know they have enough infrastructure to monitor all the things happening in their country especially some Islands are famous for foreign visitors so this will wnd up in more corruption and nothing else.

If those of you who talk about this are Indonesians. So I think you will know that actually Indonesia has long banned adultery or having sex outside of marriage. even in the source you linked it was also explained that the law regarding sex outside of marriage had existed before but was not enforced. and the new law has only been slightly modified or clarified, namely to prohibit sex outside of marriage in its entirety.
while the old law only prohibited sex outside of marriage with non-married couples themselves. like the prohibition of the husband having sex with women other than his wife.

So this problem does not need to be exaggerated. because actually this thing has been around for a long time.
And remember that in Indonesia only accept citizens who are religious. so that Atheists are not allowed in Indonesia based on the 1st PANCASILA, namely Belief in One Almighty God. So that Indonesian citizens are required to have a religion. while in all religions it is said that sex outside of marriage is prohibited. So the law prohibiting sex outside of marriage is actually in line with Pancasila No. 1. although humans have their own rights. But if he has Religion. then he is also obliged to comply with the rules of the religion he adheres to.

And once again that this law is nothing new. because almost the same law has existed in Indonesia since the beginning of Indonesia's independence.
And as we can see, Indonesia's Economic Sector will be fine.

And because Indonesia's majority population is Muslim, this law will actually be welcomed by its citizens. and in fact many countries already have the same laws regarding the prohibition of sex outside of marriage as in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, Philippines, Egypt, Malaysia. And many more and All is well. sourch : Link

And when talking about business. Maybe some businesses will be affected by this law. But only part of the business. And because this Law is not entirely new. so actually businesses in Indonesia are used to this. Actually, the punishment for sex outside of marriage in Indonesia is quite light when compared to Arab countries like Qatar, where the applicable sentence is 7 years in prison. Sourch : google

tin foil hat narrative i can see happening
people claim that women should not sit in cars with men unless married. and should not visit men in cafe's, as the future tin foil had fear..

however
this law was originally designed to stop child sex trafficking and prostitution.
(the big problem of indonesia)

however the religious groups have took it to extremes of making adult consensual sex illegal outside the marriage. (unhappy in your marriage due to cheating, report your spouse to the police)

Those kind of laws are very difficult to enforce, however in countries were similar laws are in place if for example you want to stay at a hotel with a person of the opposite sex you will need to stay in different rooms, so this could raise the costs for couples which are not married or for friends, which could indeed reduce tourism, however it would be interesting to see what has been the effect in other countries which have passed similar laws before.

Indonesia's legislative arm has passed a new law that criminalizes sex before or outside marriage. People convicted of extramarital sex could face as much as one year in prison.
This law would also affect foreigners and tourists that came to visit the country. Some citizens of the country are protesting against this law. While others are seeing it as a welcome development.

Business owners in the country are lamenting that this law can discourage tourists from visiting the country which would affect their businesses negatively. I am also perceiving that this policy might also scare investors from investing in Indonesia. But some religious business owners are of the view that this policy would attract business to the country from other religious or conservative nations or investors.

What are your thoughts?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63869078