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legendary
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March 14, 2022, 04:34:39 PM
#39
It is believe that when two people fight the third person that Seperate them is the want to fine out what the problem is,so on this note NU coming and fine out what the problem is l believe they will know how to target the problem and look for the way out on the situation an also come up with a positive respond on put the peace between RUSSIA AND UKRAINE

There will always be distrust between Ukraine and Russia. What will result from all this is that the border with Russia
will be a 1 km minefield buffer zone, no border crossings, no trade of any kind, probably no diplomatic relations once all this is done.

Sort of like North Korea and South Korea.

Fuck, I am not sure if we will have Russian embassies in the West once Putin takes this to the next level.
newbie
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March 14, 2022, 11:58:19 AM
#38
It is believe that when two people fight the third person that Seperate them is the want to fine out what the problem is,so on this note NU coming and fine out what the problem is l believe they will know how to target the problem and look for the way out on the situation an also come up with a positive respond on put the peace between RUSSIA AND UKRAINE
legendary
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March 13, 2022, 09:52:02 PM
#37

They probably will when all the Nazi's get the Jew-jab:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/QEIBdaJ8blX9/

legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
March 13, 2022, 06:57:07 PM
#36
Ukraine shares many similarities with Russia, as an ex-Soviet country, there are many Russian-speakers. I've read that the Ukrainian government was putting immense pressure on Russian-speakers, while they were being treated differently, not sure how accurate that is. From what I'm aware of, Putin was expecting to be praised as a savior in Donetsk and Luhansk, but instead, he met resistance.
It's not very accurate. They made some laws to endorse using Ukrainian language because it was barely used even in media. But Russian speaking people aren't threated differently. For example, even during war mayor of Odessa or Kharkiv, Mykolaiv governor don't have problems to use Russian language. Or Zelensky, before becoming president, being popular comedian he always used Russian language in his performances. Or you can see experience from our Ukrainian folks:
I think and speak Russian, but that doesn't stop me from feeling like a Ukrainian.~

Same here, brother. I live in Kyiv, and speak and think in Russian, and I've never had any problems with that. Even on Euromaidan no one ever asked me why I speak Russian.

hero member
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March 13, 2022, 05:58:38 PM
#35
Yes, we know that it will take years to achieve "peace" but that doesn't mean there is no possibility of making peace. And I think that Putin is not stupid to carry out a nuclear bombing on Ukrainian territory.
Is Putin even predictable this days? Don't get me wrong, i am not saying Putin is going to do any of such in Ukraine, but it is much better to hope that things de-escalate pretty fast, so we do not ever have to get to stage or even contemplate such.

Having said that, the international world can't do more than they are already doing, which is attempting to force Russia to stop through imposing sanctions, i am sorry they can't do anything more than that, or let me rephrase if they do anything more than that, it could be counterproductive, and rather than de-escalate issues, it will further escalate it, take for example Ukraine's plea to the West to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine's airspace which was rejected for obvious reasons, you can't just basically tell a nation not to fly over a particular airspace, you will have to implemet it, and HOW? By shooting down any aircraft that flies into that restricted airspace, if the international world do that, we can brace up for another world war, and that is why they won't.

So to be honest, i do not see this conflict coming to an end soon, except if Ukraine surrenders, and watching the frequent messages from their president, there is absolutely no hint at that, what can the rest of the world do? Impose sanctions and threats to Russia and attempt to cripple their economy, thus far has it done much? Not really, the war is still going on, maybe cause Russia is also very important to the rest of the world and the sanctions is hurting both ways, in my opinion, this war will only end if the both parties involved in it (Russia and Ukraine) reach an agreement, a settlement or a resolution.
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The issue is that these sanctions aren't hurting Russia, they are one of the largest superpowers. NATO and the UN didn't do a thing, except escalate the situation and then proceed to step out, mentioning that they don't want to interfere. There are three ways this could possibly end, Ukraine surrenders, Russia attacks Kyiv and conquers Ukraine, or Russia/Putin gives up and forfeits the war, which is highly unlikely.
legendary
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March 13, 2022, 04:35:39 PM
#34
Yes, we know that it will take years to achieve "peace" but that doesn't mean there is no possibility of making peace. And I think that Putin is not stupid to carry out a nuclear bombing on Ukrainian territory.
Is Putin even predictable this days? Don't get me wrong, i am not saying Putin is going to do any of such in Ukraine, but it is much better to hope that things de-escalate pretty fast, so we do not ever have to get to stage or even contemplate such.

Having said that, the international world can't do more than they are already doing, which is attempting to force Russia to stop through imposing sanctions, i am sorry they can't do anything more than that, or let me rephrase if they do anything more than that, it could be counterproductive, and rather than de-escalate issues, it will further escalate it, take for example Ukraine's plea to the West to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine's airspace which was rejected for obvious reasons, you can't just basically tell a nation not to fly over a particular airspace, you will have to implemet it, and HOW? By shooting down any aircraft that flies into that restricted airspace, if the international world do that, we can brace up for another world war, and that is why they won't.

So to be honest, i do not see this conflict coming to an end soon, except if Ukraine surrenders, and watching the frequent messages from their president, there is absolutely no hint at that, what can the rest of the world do? Impose sanctions and threats to Russia and attempt to cripple their economy, thus far has it done much? Not really, the war is still going on, maybe cause Russia is also very important to the rest of the world and the sanctions is hurting both ways, in my opinion, this war will only end if the both parties involved in it (Russia and Ukraine) reach an agreement, a settlement or a resolution.
hero member
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March 13, 2022, 04:09:48 PM
#33
Ukraine was simply the excuse, Putin doesn't want NATO next to his country, which was also a country that belonged in the Soviet Union, a large part of their territory is Russian and their citizens are Russian - speaking for the very same reason.

The war isn't going to stop anytime soon, unless Zelensky surrenders and meet Russia's demands, something which is currently highly unlikely. Putin will keep going till he gets what he wants, one way or another.
Well, Russia already have NATO next to their country - It's Poland and Baltic states. So, Ukraine wouldn't be different, but Ukraine becoming NATO members probably would hit Putin ambitions very hard because he don't consider Ukraine as independent country with their history.
And fact that big part of Ukraine people think and speak Russian doesn't makes them into Russians, you can ask some forum members about it. For example Kharkiv or Melitopol is cities where majority of people speak Russian, but nobody welcomed Russian troops with flowers there. Nobody don't want to have Russkiy Mir there.
Ukraine shares many similarities with Russia, as an ex-Soviet country, there are many Russian-speakers. I've read that the Ukrainian government was putting immense pressure on Russian-speakers, while they were being treated differently, not sure how accurate that is. From what I'm aware of, Putin was expecting to be praised as a savior in Donetsk and Luhansk, but instead, he met resistance.

That's pretty sensible, who in the right mind would praise someone for bombing his city, killing civilians and destroying their properties in the process, even if Putin's claims about the living conditions there were correct.
legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
March 12, 2022, 07:50:10 PM
#32
Ukraine was simply the excuse, Putin doesn't want NATO next to his country, which was also a country that belonged in the Soviet Union, a large part of their territory is Russian and their citizens are Russian - speaking for the very same reason.

The war isn't going to stop anytime soon, unless Zelensky surrenders and meet Russia's demands, something which is currently highly unlikely. Putin will keep going till he gets what he wants, one way or another.
Well, Russia already have NATO next to their country - It's Poland and Baltic states. So, Ukraine wouldn't be different, but Ukraine becoming NATO members probably would hit Putin ambitions very hard because he don't consider Ukraine as independent country with their history.
And fact that big part of Ukraine people think and speak Russian doesn't makes them into Russians, you can ask some forum members about it. For example Kharkiv or Melitopol is cities where majority of people speak Russian, but nobody welcomed Russian troops with flowers there. Nobody don't want to have Russkiy Mir there.
legendary
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March 12, 2022, 06:51:15 AM
#31
The world has seen some significant changes in world politics and power in the last few days. NATO was presented as an anaconda to the world by the western media. But Russia vs Ukraine war shows how weak NATO is against a nuclear-capable country. A NATO member of Poland offers the USA that they will donate their mig-29 to NATO by sending them to the USA base in Germany. Germany denies these offers by fearing Russian aggression. Poland and Germany both fear Russia and don't want to help Ukraine directly with those aircraft.

NATO shows their weakness and any new countries will think twice before joining NATO. The whole world has been divided into two-block. In this situation, I really doubt about UN's influence over this tension. Ukraine will be forced into Russia's terms and it seems their president already accepted those by seeing NATO's action.

Ukraine will never agree to the conditions of Russia, because they are terrorists. Occupiers without morality and humanity, only the last scum who have no soul can bomb kindergartens, schools and maternity hospitals. Dozens of children killed is not normal. NATO turned out to be just a horror story that does not work. Almost everyone has their tails between their legs, sitting and fearfully hoping that this will not affect them, but it has affected everyone. I watched an excerpt today, as solovyov in one of the russian programs said that there was no point in stopping at the western border of Ukraine, that need to go to the end. But Europe still hopes that this will not affect them and they are cowardly afraid to give planes to Ukraine for defense, they are afraid of a dictator who might get angry. This is nonsense, stop being afraid, evil must be stopped.
hero member
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March 12, 2022, 06:22:36 AM
#30
We all already know some of the reasons why Russia and Ukraine have conflicts as reported in many media today
and this tends to be the attitude of Russia's Separatism
and this war will not easily stop or there will be peace
Can the international world as the United Nations (UN) bridge these two countries so that they can make peace or to stop the Russian attack on Ukraine

The world has seen some significant changes in world politics and power in the last few days. NATO was presented as an anaconda to the world by the western media. But Russia vs Ukraine war shows how weak NATO is against a nuclear-capable country. A NATO member of Poland offers the USA that they will donate their mig-29 to NATO by sending them to the USA base in Germany. Germany denies these offers by fearing Russian aggression. Poland and Germany both fear Russia and don't want to help Ukraine directly with those aircraft.

NATO shows their weakness and any new countries will think twice before joining NATO. The whole world has been divided into two-block. In this situation, I really doubt about UN's influence over this tension. Ukraine will be forced into Russia's terms and it seems their president already accepted those by seeing NATO's action.
hero member
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March 12, 2022, 03:33:34 AM
#29
We all already know some of the reasons why Russia and Ukraine have conflicts as reported in many media today
and this tends to be the attitude of Russia's Separatism
and this war will not easily stop or there will be peace
Can the international world as the United Nations (UN) bridge these two countries so that they can make peace or to stop the Russian attack on Ukraine

The war is not just between Ukraine and Russia. Its war between Europe and Russia and the frontline is Ukraine, where Russian bombs are killing innocent Ukrainian children. As for the issue of international relations, The most powerful thing is political and economical isolation, which of course is very bad for everyone but  may help to stop war.
Ukraine was simply the excuse, Putin doesn't want NATO next to his country, which was also a country that belonged in the Soviet Union, a large part of their territory is Russian and their citizens are Russian - speaking for the very same reason.

The war isn't going to stop anytime soon, unless Zelensky surrenders and meet Russia's demands, something which is currently highly unlikely. Putin will keep going till he gets what he wants, one way or another.
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March 11, 2022, 04:00:07 AM
#28
Why can not? Don't you remember how America and Japan, once enemies, became friends? nothing is impossible, this is all a matter of politics, in politics there are no enemies or friends, there are only interests.

They became friends by force after the US dropped a couple of atomic bombs on Japan, so rather than becoming friends, Japan became a vassal of the US. We could only say that they were friends on equal terms many decades after the end of the conflict.

I hope that such ways of achieving friendship will not be experimented with in this conflict.

Yes, we know that it will take years to achieve "peace" but that doesn't mean there is no possibility of making peace. And I think that Putin is not stupid to carry out a nuclear bombing on Ukrainian territory.
legendary
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March 11, 2022, 03:11:18 AM
#27
Why can not? Don't you remember how America and Japan, once enemies, became friends? nothing is impossible, this is all a matter of politics, in politics there are no enemies or friends, there are only interests.

They became friends by force after the US dropped a couple of atomic bombs on Japan, so rather than becoming friends, Japan became a vassal of the US. We could only say that they were friends on equal terms many decades after the end of the conflict.

I hope that such ways of achieving friendship will not be experimented with in this conflict.
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March 10, 2022, 11:22:08 PM
#26
Can the international world as the United Nations (UN) bridge these two countries so that they can make peace or to stop the Russian attack on Ukraine

Why can not? Don't you remember how America and Japan, once enemies, became friends? nothing is impossible, this is all a matter of politics, in politics there are no enemies or friends, there are only interests.
legendary
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March 10, 2022, 08:04:32 PM
#25
We all already know some of the reasons why Russia and Ukraine have conflicts as reported in many media today
and this tends to be the attitude of Russia's Separatism
and this war will not easily stop or there will be peace
Can the international world as the United Nations (UN) bridge these two countries so that they can make peace or to stop the Russian attack on Ukraine

Yes. The international organization like United Nations can bring peace to the two countries but Ukraine will never forget the damage done by Russia,
So, if Russia fight with another country, Ukraine will join forces with the country to fight against Russia.

I don't think Ukraine will EVER forgive Russia for this invasion. And I am not sure any of the western countries will either.

The credibility of Russia has been permanently damaged by Putin and his acolytes.
hero member
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March 10, 2022, 06:39:55 PM
#24
We all already know some of the reasons why Russia and Ukraine have conflicts as reported in many media today
and this tends to be the attitude of Russia's Separatism
and this war will not easily stop or there will be peace
Can the international world as the United Nations (UN) bridge these two countries so that they can make peace or to stop the Russian attack on Ukraine

Yes. The international organization like United Nations can bring peace to the two countries but Ukraine will never forget the damage done by Russia,
So, if Russia fight with another country, Ukraine will join forces with the country to fight against Russia.
legendary
Activity: 1904
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March 04, 2022, 04:59:39 AM
#23
Here Moskalaki rob stores

Videos like this do add weight to the claims that the invading army thought this would be over quickly, and brought only a couple of days' worth of rations. It was a miscalculation that hopefully the Ukrainian defenders can exploit. The Russian army's biggest weakness is probably its supply lines.

The issue of long supply lines has protected Russia in the past from Napoleon and Hitler amongst others, it looks like the Russian strength in defence may also be one of its weaknesses in attack.
legendary
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March 03, 2022, 05:40:23 PM
#22
No, for as long as Russian imperialism is alive and well.

The world needs to "de-Punitify" Russia.

Here Moskalaki rob stores:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoM5yx1IVFY

Nice army, fucking animals.  Kill and plunder.
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March 03, 2022, 05:40:11 PM
#21
We all already know some of the reasons why Russia and Ukraine have conflicts as reported in many media today
and this tends to be the attitude of Russia's Separatism
and this war will not easily stop or there will be peace
Can the international world as the United Nations (UN) bridge these two countries so that they can make peace or to stop the Russian attack on Ukraine

The war is not just between Ukraine and Russia. Its war between Europe and Russia and the frontline is Ukraine, where Russian bombs are killing innocent Ukrainian children. As for the issue of international relations, The most powerful thing is political and economical isolation, which of course is very bad for everyone but  may help to stop war.

No. This is a war between civilization and savages. Between truth and lies. Between morality and degradation. Between the future and the "road to the past", between the rule of law and terrorism. Reconcile? It's like reconciling Poland and Hitler's Germany in 1939. It's like reconciling in 1940 Finland and the USSR. Or during the raid on Pearl Harbor, make peace with the United States and Japan!
Here, for 8 days, there has been mass terror and the destruction by the troops of Russian fascism, residential buildings, schools, hospitals, they did not even spare the maternity hospital! Small towns are destroyed almost completely. Kharkov - there is a humanitarian tragedy, FAB-500 bombs - the most powerful non-nuclear charge - were used against the civilian population. If you want, I can provide a lot of photo and video materials, with nightmarish footage of the destruction and murder of citizens of Ukraine, by the fascist regime of Russia!



I'm watching everyday how they kill innocent citizens, they are using vacuum bombs and clusters. they are trying to genocide Ukrainians but It won't happen, the whole world stands with Ukraine.
I can't say anything just wonder how can they kill these beautiful children?.... May god give you power to endure everything.
legendary
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March 03, 2022, 02:54:18 PM
#20
We all already know some of the reasons why Russia and Ukraine have conflicts as reported in many media today
and this tends to be the attitude of Russia's Separatism
and this war will not easily stop or there will be peace
Can the international world as the United Nations (UN) bridge these two countries so that they can make peace or to stop the Russian attack on Ukraine

The war is not just between Ukraine and Russia. Its war between Europe and Russia and the frontline is Ukraine, where Russian bombs are killing innocent Ukrainian children. As for the issue of international relations, The most powerful thing is political and economical isolation, which of course is very bad for everyone but  may help to stop war.

No. This is a war between civilization and savages. Between truth and lies. Between morality and degradation. Between the future and the "road to the past", between the rule of law and terrorism. Reconcile? It's like reconciling Poland and Hitler's Germany in 1939. It's like reconciling in 1940 Finland and the USSR. Or during the raid on Pearl Harbor, make peace with the United States and Japan!
Here, for 8 days, there has been mass terror and the destruction by the troops of Russian fascism, residential buildings, schools, hospitals, they did not even spare the maternity hospital! Small towns are destroyed almost completely. Kharkov - there is a humanitarian tragedy, FAB-500 bombs - the most powerful non-nuclear charge - were used against the civilian population. If you want, I can provide a lot of photo and video materials, with nightmarish footage of the destruction and murder of citizens of Ukraine, by the fascist regime of Russia!

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