Topic: Will Russia and Ukraine join hands...? - page 2. (Read 350 times)

It is too late for something like that to happen, the opportunity to do this was before the war, now that the war is taking place all of those peace negotiations that we are seeing are useless, there is not even a cease of fire while they are conducting those talks which should tell you all what you need to know about them, also the sanctions the west is imposing on Russia are so hard that now it is impossible for Russia to back down, so at this point I have little doubt that Ukraine will be annexed by Russia.

The war is not just between Ukraine and Russia. Its war between Europe and Russia and the frontline is Ukraine, where Russian bombs are killing innocent Ukrainian children. As for the issue of international relations, The most powerful thing is political and economical isolation, which of course is very bad for everyone but  may help to stop war.

This is something very difficult. None of them initially moved in the war to join hands because it was possible that if it wasn't for Ukraine, which was crushed to rubble, Russia would be forced to withdraw.
although it is true that until now there are still those who hope for peace there and even if there is a declaration of peace later there will always be upheavals that will never end as long as they still want their respective interests

So your solution against a madman that wants to built an empire is .. to get everybody surrender to him, hence avoid war?!
Ukraine wants EU and NATO. Russia wants Soviet union. Do they seem to have similar goals?


Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the world having no longer countries, all under same management and same currency. But not like this. A smart world, not an empire.

to join hands at this time there is no picture if a Putin has not stepped down from his position as president,
but we also have to know what is the reason for these two countries at war, whoever is disturbed will definitely fight, judging from the first invasion here russia which was cornered by ukraine (trying to understand what was the basis for the beginning of the war between these two countries)

I don't believe that sanction is the only thing they can do. We have a lot of countries and what if most of these countries unite to stop Russia? Can Russia still stop that force? No, I don't think so but someone said that the Germans are now planning to help Ukraine and there are now soldiers that are ready to come to that country and join the fight against Russians.

It's not just a simple suicide but this is a fight for the honour of one country and if ever a soldier dies, he will still get a recognition from the governments. There is a rumoured peace talk too that will happen between them so maybe other countries didn't make a move because they are waiting for this?

Either the UN can't do anything or are they actually afraid of Russia which we obviously don't know about,
because I think that possibility will always exist and if I see videos circulating on social media about the situation in Ukraine, where a lot of infrastructure has been destroyed, I am really concerned,
talk about military aid if I'm not mistaken that there are actually several neighboring countries of Ukraine that send aid even in small amounts

Things have already reached this far and I do not think that it will be as easy as that to stop what's going on. I'm not closing myind to the possibility though, it's just that in my understanding, as long as Ukraine never really lets go of their freedom to choose in being a part of a western alliance which is NATO, I do not think Putin will ever put an end to this. But as to what I can see, Ukraine is fighting for this very freedom and has already been past the shackles of fear. I just hope Putin will stop all this and let Ukraine do its thing since it is their right as a free country.

If peace later returns to Ukraine, they should be wiser in the peacekeeping mission and fall victim to external manoeuvering. Surely, there should be coexistence among other countries, but deeper and thorough checks on the merits and demerits of things should be premium.

In cities of Russia, rallies are held against the WAR with Ukraine. But for some reason, even despite this, everyone forgets that people are powerless against politics. !! Sadly !!!
I pray for peace.

UN is simply there and can't stop anything, the invasion is happening while all countries are talking about peace and deal the issue not in the war way. Russian military almost captured the Ukraine so they are at the verge of surrendering now, other countries are not helping with military aids just announced trade sanctions.

it's very impossible for both country to have peaceful life because putin doesn't want any relationship when it comes NATO wherein reason he wants to take down and invade Ukraine.. Especially their president which the main target of putin.

So i don't think someone can suggest them to be okay even with the help of big nations, because even during the war no one wants to save Ukraine and be part of the war.

I think that you will sober up in the near future and take off those points that the people of Russia now have from Putin. What is the nationalist and fascist regime in Ukraine? What kind of Putin nonsense? When was the last time you were in Ukraine? How can postochnaya ideological propaganda change the minds of an entire nation. Nothing, these people will soon begin to see clearly.

Putin attacked Ukraine under the pretext that Ukraine would be a danger to Russia if it joined NATO, which means that it must be prevented from doing so. In his reflections on justifying the subsequent aggression, he even went so far as to deny the sovereignty of Ukraine, he violated its territorial integrity 8 years ago.

Right next to Russia's border, its neighbors are NATO members Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. For some reason, they are not a threat to Russia, but Ukraine will be. Therefore, Putin demands that Ukraine refuse to join NATO, and at the same time the European Union. Will not work.

Putin will not be able to bring the free people of Ukraine to their knees. During the seven days of the Russian invasion, they lost 5840 invaders killed, more than 200 prisoners, 211 tanks, 862 armored vehicles, 30 combat aircraft, 31 attack helicopters, 85 artillery systems, 40 multiple launch rocket systems, 9 air defense systems, 355 vehicles. Moreover, Russia does not want to take back its dead soldiers so as not to show losses, and for each killed in Ukraine it will pay his family an amount in rubles, which is equal to 50 dollars.
The invaders have already killed 2,000 civilians in Ukraine over the past week.

Peace between Ukraine and Russia is only possible if Putin's criminal regime falls.
Yesterday, the UN already adopted a resolution calling on Russia to immediately stop the aggression and completely withdraw its troops from the territory of Ukraine, including the previously occupied Donbass and Crimea. But Russia spat and spits on all international norms.

As long as Ukraine continues to spout its fake news about how Russia is killing people, we certainly will not be able to properly look at the whole situation that is happening now. As long as people are ready to believe only one side, completely not listening to the other, unanimity, and peace will be difficult to achieve. Europe does not receive Russian news, which today they are completely trying to block.
But Russia and Ukraine have always been fraternal peoples, which they are now. Russia is not at war with Ukraine, it is at war with the nationalist and fascist regime, which has been operating for 8 years on the territory of Ukraine. Therefore, until the world sobers up and takes off its glasses, there will be an illusion that Russia is the aggressor. Although smart people, with logical conclusions, may look at the situation in a completely different way.

I know war is a crime and a mistake, but why do people just see the problem without questioning the reason. The fact that Russia creates tension like the present is probably carefully considered and calculated in bad cases, I do not believe that there will be a consensus between the parties for the sake of no one willing to give in to anyone, and this is human selfishness.

That will only happen when Russia finally conquers Ukraine or Putin is removed from power and is replaced by a leader that's far more leaning towards peaceful relations rather than choosing war as an option and given that the latter is impossible then we will just hope that the people will finally say that enough is enough and revolt against the government.

They will not join hands as long as Putin remains the leader. I see 3 possible outcomes at this point.
1. Ukraine is completely destroyed to the point where there's no more military, just rubble.
2. Russia is forced to withdraw somehow by his own nation, maybe the military refusing to fight, maybe Putin's assassination.
3. Putin escalates the conflict by attacking a NATO country, or by destroying humanitarian convoys, in which case we'll have an even bigger conflict.

With so many Ukrainians dead and cities destroyed they won't back down from this. For them it's a fight to the death, no compromise. They won't give up half of their county just to make the invaders stop bombing their cities. Peace talks won't change much.

No one could completely stop about the invasion and imposing sanctions are the only things that they could do for now. NO country would tend to go with war just to stop them which is suicide.

So far other strong or powerful countries doesnt still make out some significant step but rather just observing basing up on my own observation too.There might be some possible peace talks

but i doubt that this wouldnt just simply be arranged on what we are anticipating.

When Putin decided to attack Ukraine, I have the feeling that he will push thru this attack at any cost. He won't be stopping now as the world sees his desire of power of Ukraine. We have no idea what is he thinking right now that a lot of governments are uniting to put sanctions towards his country. I am not seeing that UN can stop him on this invasion. We don't know how his mind works but at the moment, it seems he's like a madman going back to savage period.

We all already know some of the reasons why Russia and Ukraine have conflicts as reported in many media today
and this tends to be the attitude of Russia's Separatism
and this war will not easily stop or there will be peace
Can the international world as the United Nations (UN) bridge these two countries so that they can make peace or to stop the Russian attack on Ukraine