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Topic: Will there ever be another crypto boom similar to BTC in my lifetime? - page 3. (Read 6678 times)

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Fierce, The Legend
It was hardly much of a boom.  Dot.com in the late 1990s was $7 trillion.  Bitcoin peaked at $15 billion, because only 500K-2M users are using it.


Besides we know from the website BitcoinRichList that there isn't that many rich.  I looked at the numbers and it looks like only 55 active addresses (past 30 days) own more than $5 million.  

Then there are the charts which include all the addresses going back to 2009.  There's 1700 addresses with amounts more than $3 million.  Addresses are not people.  A lot of these belong to exchanges, are lost or inaccessible funds, multiple addresses can belong to the same person (a common security precaution), et cetera.

So in actuality, especially at current prices, I would be surprised if there's even 300 rich Bitcoiners who have access to their funds.


Here's some rhetorical logic -  if loads of people were getting rich off Bitcoin then how come this forum (or Reddit) isn't full of people posting photos of their brand new Lamborghini and mansions?  You know that stuff would happen if many ordinary people were getting rich.


The great thing about speculation is that it requires no specific knowledge or ability. Any person can look at any series of facts and give their opinion. I can think of a dozen points off the top of my head that disproves your theory entirely. The most obvious is that you have not taken into account any medium of exchange besides bitcoins. Your measure of wealth is based of bitcoin holdings from the rich list.

Do you think zero people sell bitcoin for fiat currency?
Do you think zero people sell bitcoin for altcoins?
Do you think zero people use their bitcoins for purchasing power?
Do you think that zero people have traded bitcoin for other assets?
Have you considered the thousands of bitcoin businesses that have been started from bitcoin earnings?

Josh Garza's purchase of btc.com for 1 million dollars.....

I could go on and on but I don't have the time to correct ignorance.

I'm too busy NOT making money on bitcoin, right?
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http://www.dailydot.com/business/4chan-bitcoin-lamborghini/

The origin behind that story.  Still I presented a good argument - if there was thousands of rich Bitcoiners then everybody would be posting photos of their cars and mansions on here.  If you had 1,000 rich Bitcoiners then you only need 1% of them (10) to be bragging about it nonstop on Reddit and Bitcointalk.
newbie
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Here's some rhetorical logic -  if loads of people were getting rich off Bitcoin then how come this forum (or Reddit) isn't full of people posting photos of their brand new Lamborghini and mansions?  You know that stuff would happen if ordinary people were getting rich.


https://i.imgur.com/ss9K1TF.jpg
hero member
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It was hardly much of a boom.  Dot.com in the late 1990s was $7 trillion.  Bitcoin peaked at $15 billion, because only 500K-2M users are using it.


Besides we know from the website BitcoinRichList that there isn't that many rich.  I looked at the numbers and it looks like only 55 active addresses (past 30 days) own more than $5 million.  

Then there are the charts which include all the addresses going back to 2009.  There's 1700 addresses with amounts more than $3 million.  Addresses are not people.  A lot of these belong to exchanges, are lost or inaccessible funds, multiple addresses can belong to the same person (a common security precaution), et cetera.

So in actuality, especially at current prices, I would be surprised if there's even 300 rich Bitcoiners who have access to their funds.


Here's some rhetorical logic -  if loads of people were getting rich off Bitcoin then how come this forum (or Reddit) isn't full of people posting photos of their brand new Lamborghini and mansions?  You know that stuff would happen if many ordinary people were getting rich.
legendary
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Sorry this was it. We're all millionaires, and you're not.
i love this post  Cheesy

A lot of bitcoin millionaires in end-2013 must be regretting not selling out.   Grin

There is no bitcoin millionaires, there are lots of  few 1000 BTC holders, some few 10k BTC holders and few few 100k BTC holders. No millionaires.

U sure about that?
hero member
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Crypto boom can be with BTC once again  Grin Regarding other crypto currencies - I do not know  Wink
I don't think BTC can go x5 order of magnitude again at this point, we'll see tho.
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Hey gang, broke student here.

I heard about BTC back in 2012 after doing acid (it enlightened me) but considering my family is poor and I was going to college I had no money to invest, I was in the red. I came back to the ecosystem sometime around late-2013 after some family trouble and made a bit of pocket change day-trading DOGE (1500$)...essentially nothing compared to you big shots.

Every day I wake up and want to kill myself, considering I do not have a time machine. All I want is to live with the comfort knowing I have 100k-1m$ in my bank account....the thing that kills me is knowing I could have had that comfy security but not in this timeline, maybe a parallel timeline where I did LSD earlier. I know there will most likely not be another moment in our lives where you can invest in a stock for 1$ and it goes to 1000$, and I can't take much more of working at this dead-end fast food job.

Does anyone have any info on how often this happens, and how I could get to know about such a thing early on? Is there a secret IRC or forum where people discuss this?

I don't want to an hero, however making 1500$ a month from fast food and spending 1000$ on rent and living expenses whilst only taking away 500$ is a FUCKING JOKE. At this point I might even move to Alaska and die of a bee sting like that McCandless guy did.

It just sucks that an entire life is wasted for being a few years late, you know?



Nxt coin did make many people extremely wealthy. But choosing a good coin is like finding hitting lottery.
hero member
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Crypto boom can be with BTC once again  Grin Regarding other crypto currencies - I do not know  Wink
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Sorry this was it. We're all millionaires, and you're not.
i love this post  Cheesy

A lot of bitcoin millionaires in end-2013 must be regretting not selling out.   Grin

There is no bitcoin millionaires, there are lots of  few 1000 BTC holders, some few 10k BTC holders and few few 100k BTC holders. No millionaires.
hero member
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Don't be too frustrated.
1. By having this history, you are likely to seize the next opportunity. May next new great crypto that will replace btc. This will help you a lot.
2. Who knows if BTC will skyrocket a gain and reach $100000? Buy some every month. It's still not too late.
hero member
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Sorry this was it. We're all millionaires, and you're not.
i love this post  Cheesy

A lot of bitcoin millionaires in end-2013 must be regretting not selling out.   Grin
sr. member
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Sorry this was it. We're all millionaires, and you're not.
i love this post  Cheesy
sr. member
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Knowledge its everything
There won't be another crypto boom if bitcoin is still alive
Or maybe the boom only similar as LTC / DOGE

I hope it is still early years in the crypto currency life span.  Smiley

Me too
Some people said in end of 2014, bitcoin will reach $1000
sr. member
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crypto other than bitcoin always there to compete with bitcoin market prices, among others, such altcoin or Dogecoin, both cryptocurrency price is still below bitcoin, but continue to increase the price of exchange, of course, is great competition in the business world and currency markets, it can avoid the monopoly cryptocurrency, so there will be continuous improvement in the cyrptocurrency, hopefully done competition is healthy competition ...  Cool
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QE is being withdrawn now. So I guess it will be some time before the next QE is introduced. The economy seems to be in good health. The fed won't want to rock it by introducing QE.

That's just pretense, as it always was. The economy is in much worse shape than it was in 2008 when they started to 'cure' it. Wait for the SP500 start to crash, they will re-introduce QE to prop up markets, but this time it will have to be really massive. It should stay afloat for another few months though without QE, but sooner or later all the credit will dry up.

QE is really not based on S&P500 levels. It is based on unemployment levels and inflation. If employment levels firm up and there is a threat of inflation increasing, there is no way QE will be introduced.
sr. member
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QE is being withdrawn now. So I guess it will be some time before the next QE is introduced. The economy seems to be in good health. The fed won't want to rock it by introducing QE.

That's just pretense, as it always was. The economy is in much worse shape than it was in 2008 when they started to 'cure' it. Wait for the SP500 start to crash, they will re-introduce QE to prop up markets, but this time it will have to be really massive. It should stay afloat for another few months though without QE, but sooner or later all the credit will dry up.
hero member
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We are now living in the time of all previous QEs' effect expiring and dying and waiting for the next huge QE from FED that will be larger than all the previous QEs combined. Tide floats all boats as they say. When that next huge QE (will it be the last one?) hits the markets, everyone will run from fiat into something that can't be printed at whim. And that huge ocean of fiat will trickle into crypto currencies too, even if it's just a tiny trickle (10-20 billion USD out of trillions of QE). Until then it should be relatively quiet times in the crypto currencies, doesn't matter which crypto we're talking about here. BTC will stay below $500-600 till the next huge QE is released. Late summer - fall of 2015 sounds about perfect time for that QE.

QE is being withdrawn now. So I guess it will be some time before the next QE is introduced. The economy seems to be in good health. The fed won't want to rock it by introducing QE.
sr. member
Activity: 336
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We are now living in the time of all previous QEs' effect expiring and dying and waiting for the next huge QE from FED that will be larger than all the previous QEs combined. Tide floats all boats as they say. When that next huge QE (will it be the last one?) hits the markets, everyone will run from fiat into something that can't be printed at whim. And that huge ocean of fiat will trickle into crypto currencies too, even if it's just a tiny trickle (10-20 billion USD out of trillions of QE). Until then it should be relatively quiet times in the crypto currencies, doesn't matter which crypto we're talking about here. BTC will stay below $500-600 till the next huge QE is released. Late summer - fall of 2015 sounds about perfect time for that QE.
sr. member
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for now, cryptocurrency number one in the world is bitcoin, no one can compete, maybe there are some who try to compete with, among others, as altcoin or doge, but apparently has not been able to match the price of bitcoin moment, while I am optimistic for the future bitcoin prices will increase and stable. hopefully ...  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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I hope it is still early years in the crypto currency life span.  Smiley

Hope so, and was hopping for another boom as I missed the last one...
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