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I'd say the exchanges that currently remained to be unhacked are pretty "safe"; probably Binance and Coinbase. But that doesn't mean I'll recommend leaving funds on these platforms. The developers can make the platform as secure as possible, but never secure enough to the point that it's impossible to hack. Exploits will always be a risk. Not because these "unhacked" exchanges remained unhacked for years doesn't automatically mean it'll stay the same forever.

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How do you explain these things to the people whom have entrusted their funds and assets to you for safe keeping hoping that what they gave to you is under safe care only to wake up to a sad news of their assets being stolen by hackers. How do you explain all these.
That's why you don't let other people entrust their funds to you. You have not much to gain but everything to lose.
Yes, those exchanges still remained safe until none of them got hacked. But thinking that even how reputable or reliable they are to me, being dependent on centralized exchanges is definitely not a good practice. There will always be chances that they’ll end up the same future with FTX, so we should not wait for it to happen and get lost everything we store on that exchange.
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Just use centralized exchange to buy and sell your coins, then immediately withdraw it to your non custodial wallet. If your intention to find a safe centralized exchange to hold your coins on the exchange, you're stupid since exchange isn't for holding your coins for long term period.

Exchange were never meant to be used as platform for storing of coin be you as a trader or an investors. Even when you want to buy coins don't put all your money in any exchange as they can go bankrupt in any minute without warning their usees. We see exchanges shutting down withdrawal whenever they have any issue so they'll do when they don't have any liquidity for withdrawals as well so we should be warned on how we use centralized exchanges.

The industry was never meant to be centralized which is why we can never have a safe centralized exchange. They can be good for sometime but when the issue start coming they'll just give up and run away since there's no law available to punish this exchange owner yet.
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Centralized cryptocurrency exchanges are like banks. There is no absolutely safe bank and no absolutely safe exchange. Because there are a large number of hackers attacking exchanges or banks all the time.
Several centralized exchanges have been hacked (equivalent to billions of dollars in cryptocurrency stolen) in the past.

I wonder if they really got hacked or did they makeup everything to steal investors' money and then blame the hackers. I believe it was not a hacker attack but the project developers themselves did it. Cryptocurrency is a market full of scams and we should accept the risk before deciding to participate. Don't blame someone if we lose our money, because you just need to invest in bitcoins and store them on a non-custodial wallet, no one can scam you.
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The idea of a centralized exchange already tells you that it can't be safe forever. I mean there will always be attacks towards them so even if they are legit and not scamming website, they may get hacked eventually and that would be the problem for them.

I personally believe that DEX will grow bigger in the future because of this, because people can't really deal with this kind of behaviour forever, they need to realize that they can't make any problems with how it is and need to be a lot better in the long run and DEX is the way to go if you want to be more safe. That way, there is no funds in a centralized location to be hacked, and that's a better than right now.

Always be careful with everything, it should be noted that there is no concept of absolute safety in the market both CEX and DEX. DEX is also less secure than you think, once using a DEX, you also have to accept for your wallet to connect to the exchange and give permission to them. What if they intentionally want to take our property? Everything can happen. DEX or CEX will both have their own pros and cons, protect yourself by not trusting any exchange too much. Always withdraw everything to your personal wallet after completing the transaction.
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For me, there will be no safe centralized exchanges anymore even before the scandalous event of FTX.
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For me, all trusted centralized exchanges are safe for trading --yes because they are trusted. But the thing that is not safe is when we store our funds for a long period of time. The FTX drama is not the worst here, because they are not running away from the user's funds, they refunded users and I think still a good example even though behind the company's bankruptcy they returned people's money. So as I see it, picking trusted centralized exchanges are safe but don't trust to put your fund there as treated your own wallet --that is a wrong practice.

It is good as you have said so and it will be nice trading with some listed centralised exchanges as you have said but it would not be safe leaving funds any more under the custody of centralised exchange. Centralised exchange are more like the fiat banks as dey are almost running similar system. The only difference between the Fiat banks and the Crypto exchanges is that one deals on fiat while the other deals on Crypto currencies. So therefore trade and deal with caution on third party exchanges. Do not leave your profits or huge percentage of your assets with them any more. The happenings of lately should be a lesson to you. Centralised exchange these days are not what we think they used to be. It is funny how things unveil as regards the centralised exchanges.
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I'd say the exchanges that currently remained to be unhacked are pretty "safe"; probably Binance and Coinbase. But that doesn't mean I'll recommend leaving funds on these platforms. The developers can make the platform as secure as possible, but never secure enough to the point that it's impossible to hack. Exploits will always be a risk. Not because these "unhacked" exchanges remained unhacked for years doesn't automatically mean it'll stay the same forever.

https://NotYourKeys.org


How do you explain these things to the people whom have entrusted their funds and assets to you for safe keeping hoping that what they gave to you is under safe care only to wake up to a sad news of their assets being stolen by hackers. How do you explain all these.
That's why you don't let other people entrust their funds to you. You have not much to gain but everything to lose.
There will be no safe exchanges as long as they are centralized. Yes, there might be unchacked and still reliable centralized exchanges for now but I don’t think they will always stay safe in the long run. Just think of those centralized exchanges that have been previously hacked, who would have thought that they would end just like that. So as much as we can still safekeep our funds, then never entrust it to centralized exchanges but keep it in our hardware wallet for high level of security.
But now decentralization cannot completely solve the problem of OTC, and the handling fee of Ethereum is too expensive, and other public chains have various problems, and the usage habits are not so easy to change.
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Just use centralized exchange to buy and sell your coins, then immediately withdraw it to your non custodial wallet. If your intention to find a safe centralized exchange to hold your coins on the exchange, you're stupid since exchange isn't for holding your coins for long term period. I mean, why you're want to risk all your coins to save $5 fees? just think it as a donation, don't mind about it.
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Centralized cryptocurrency exchanges are like banks. There is no absolutely safe bank and no absolutely safe exchange. Because there are a large number of hackers attacking exchanges or banks all the time.
Several centralized exchanges have been hacked (equivalent to billions of dollars in cryptocurrency stolen) in the past.
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For me, there will be no safe centralized exchanges anymore even before the scandalous event of FTX.
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For me, all trusted centralized exchanges are safe for trading --yes because they are trusted. But the thing that is not safe is when we store our funds for a long period of time. The FTX drama is not the worst here, because they are not running away from the user's funds, they refunded users and I think still a good example even though behind the company's bankruptcy they returned people's money. So as I see it, picking trusted centralized exchanges are safe but don't trust to put your fund there as treated your own wallet --that is a wrong practice.
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I was wondering if there could still be any safe centralised exchange in the blockchain industry. Of lately lots have been unveiling itself and centralisedexchanges are at the end of it all.  Does it mean that these centralised exchanges that are in existence lacks the capability to safeguard assets and funds after attracting investors and traders to their platforms for engagement and activities?
 How do you explain these things to the people whom have entrusted their funds and assets to you for safe keeping hoping that what they gave to you is under safe care only to wake up to a sad news of their assets being stolen by hackers. How do you explain all these.

At first identifying the problem is a basic course for rendering solutions. If these problems are not identified immediately by the exchanges for quick remedy then who's to be blamed for it. Do they really do constant check on their service to know their lapses, if they do, do they identify it immediately with utmost attention? Do they do a constant check and evaluation on their staff and  mechanisms.

With all these said, what are your opinions on this subject matter as I feel this needs to be looked into for possible measures to be taken for  so as to further prevent or minimise the rate at which exchanges get hacked or being careless with investors and traders funds.
For me, there will be no safe centralized exchanges anymore even before the scandalous event of FTX. Note that once we chose to store our funds in centralized exchanges, everything is at risk because anytime of the day, we will lose our funds in an instant. So as much as it’s not happening yet, then we should not be comfortable anymore placing our hard earned money in those type of exchanges. Don’t wait for another big event that will hit centralized exchanges, the previous dramas are more than enough.
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Never. Treat exchange as a marketplace where your money can get stolen every time so you don't rely too much on them. Using an exchange to store your funds is a bad idea even if they claim to offer insurance etc. Even those lending platforms are facing trouble and change their ToS regularly so they don't have to pay back the user funds. Use them to trade with the money you are willing to lose, move your funds asap after you make a decent profit.
Centralized exchanges are no good for nothing since every transactions are not recorded on the blockchain which make all your store funds or private keys not safe and secured. Although some exchanges offer higher levels of comfort when it comes to trading, but after that, it would be best to withdraw all your funds and transfer it to your own private wallet or hardware wallet to make it more secured.
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If your major intention is to only keep your funds at exchange that you're going to sell, then cex is fine because you are not risking your everything on the exchange. But if you are getting everything on a credit's game, then you will be keen to rescue such a place and settle your money somewhere else.
And it is not good to trust cex with our money after what we saw happening in crypto.
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No such thing as a safe centralized exchange. Why would anybody willingly leave large amounts of their wealth on a centralized exchange? We all saw the warning signs with MtGox, there has been countless other copycat situations since, even as recently as multiple this year. Seemingly trustworthy platforms going bust, it just shows nobody can be trusted to custody your funds except you. Seriously unless you have buy or sell orders in that you expect to get triggered soon then take it all off & into your own control.
legendary
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No. The involvement of people, companies, organizations etc third parties only goes to show that it can never be safe. Remember the terms of service you agreed to when you first signed up on Binance, Coinbase. These guys can just decide to hold your assets and ain't nothing you can do about it. Since the whole FTX saga, I wouldn't trust any exchange one bit. Always put a CAVEAT at the back of your mind when you used a centralized exchange. 
As long you do entrust your money or make deposits on a centralized exchange then you should really make yourself aware nor prepared about the risk.We've been through lots of exchange hacks back in the past.
People do keep saying that they wont be trusting these platforms but years passed then people do confidently make out deposits and trust up these platforms which on the time comes where hacking
and big issues happens with these platforms ending up on losing huge amount of money on their stashes where there's no way for such recovery.And since you dont have the keys
for said exchange wallet then there's no choice but to end up on whining and regretting on putting your money into these places.
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No. The involvement of people, companies, organizations etc third parties only goes to show that it can never be safe. Remember the terms of service you agreed to when you first signed up on Binance, Coinbase.

Aside from other people holding out funds, most centralized exchanges have a high risk of being hacked.  We have seen lots of exchanges before, some recovered but some succumb to the hack and filed for bankruptcy.  No matter how high security they claim, hackers are getting wiser every day so it won't be a surprise that one day the most secured exchanges will announce hacking of their exchanges.

These guys can just decide to hold your assets and ain't nothing you can do about it. Since the whole FTX saga, I wouldn't trust any exchange one bit. Always put a CAVEAT at the back of your mind when you used a centralized exchange. 

Just don't make exchanges our bank.  Make sure that never keep any funds on exchanges.  Use it as it was intended, and trade and exchange cryptocurrencies.  Beyond that usage will put our fund at risk.
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No. The involvement of people, companies, organizations etc third parties only goes to show that it can never be safe. Remember the terms of service you agreed to when you first signed up on Binance, Coinbase. These guys can just decide to hold your assets and ain't nothing you can do about it. Since the whole FTX saga, I wouldn't trust any exchange one bit. Always put a CAVEAT at the back of your mind when you used a centralized exchange. 
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The idea of a centralized exchange already tells you that it can't be safe forever. I mean there will always be attacks towards them so even if they are legit and not scamming website, they may get hacked eventually and that would be the problem for them.

I personally believe that DEX will grow bigger in the future because of this, because people can't really deal with this kind of behaviour forever, they need to realize that they can't make any problems with how it is and need to be a lot better in the long run and DEX is the way to go if you want to be more safe. That way, there is no funds in a centralized location to be hacked, and that's a better than right now.
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we can't give full trust to top exchanges even with binance and kucoin, as we can't say what will happen next.

That should be the way, we should not give full trust to any centralized exchanges because we don't have any direct access on the wallet but many people are blindly trusting these exchanges even keeping their whole cryptocurrency in it which often resulted in lost of funds


what we can do is secure our funds on our own wallet that you can have your own keys. yes, we can always use these top exchanges but if you are not using their savings or staking services, much better to get out your funds once your done with them.

I agree, we must keep our own coins only sending cryptocurrency to the exchanges that we intend to trade. Since I always believe that there is no absolute safe centralized exchange, they rather get hacked or steal our money if problem on exchanges arises.
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I'd say the exchanges that currently remained to be unhacked are pretty "safe"; probably Binance and Coinbase. But that doesn't mean I'll recommend leaving funds on these platforms. The developers can make the platform as secure as possible, but never secure enough to the point that it's impossible to hack. Exploits will always be a risk. Not because these "unhacked" exchanges remained unhacked for years doesn't automatically mean it'll stay the same forever.

https://NotYourKeys.org


How do you explain these things to the people whom have entrusted their funds and assets to you for safe keeping hoping that what they gave to you is under safe care only to wake up to a sad news of their assets being stolen by hackers. How do you explain all these.
That's why you don't let other people entrust their funds to you. You have not much to gain but everything to lose.
There will be no safe exchanges as long as they are centralized. Yes, there might be unchacked and still reliable centralized exchanges for now but I don’t think they will always stay safe in the long run. Just think of those centralized exchanges that have been previously hacked, who would have thought that they would end just like that. So as much as we can still safekeep our funds, then never entrust it to centralized exchanges but keep it in our hardware wallet for high level of security.
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When you are using the word centralised exchange then you can't use word safe with them because you are trusting them for your funds but they could be gone anytime so how do you think it can be solved in the future? At this time major exchanges like FTX have been crashed taking out billion of dollars from the market and remaining one also have the possibility in future which is why we have not your keys not your coins statement which you need to understand as soon as possible.
Why not? What about binance and kucoin? These two are the worlds leading centralized exchanges for cryptocurrency. For now, they are still safe because there are no major problems that occurred with them. Binance have also done an action to prove that what happened with ftx can be avoided and people can now monitor how much funds they have, only to give them a peace of mind.

I am not saying that being decentralized is not good anymore but we must also support it because this is the true concept of cryptos. Decentralize exchanges are still more convenient because they don't have KYC and other hassles that are usually felt on a cex. This is what I like about them.

we can't give full trust to top exchanges even with binance and kucoin, as we can't say what will happen next. what we can do is secure our funds on our own wallet that you can have your own keys. yes, we can always use these top exchanges but if you are not using their savings or staking services, much better to get out your funds once your done with them.
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