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sr. member
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October 01, 2019, 09:39:45 AM
I will remain in my stance, whatever the outcome.  I will regret more if I lose because I place a bet on someone else's suggestion. because before place a bet I will analyze who will going to win the match fairly. don't let someone mess up our choices.
legendary
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October 01, 2019, 08:15:09 AM
How come you have been trusted that random guy who whisper you. If the friend of OP had any sense and not listen to that stranger because probably that guy spy from other opponents and might wanted to fall in the trap and when having a bet.

Just focus your own bet, don't be distracted people around you you will not know who are they. And it should have a lookout behind you to prevent a scenario like that.

That could be true, but if he believes that guy was telling right especially if that guy can explain why he whisper us and said we should choose and follow him, I think he can follow the advice from that guy. But maybe that guy only wants to make us stress to select the right team, and that will happens if we don't have reliable info about the teams. Once we are too stressful, I think we need to leave it and don't choose any of the teams because we cannot focus on what we want to select.

Yeah right, I think that is right solution when we are influenced, unless we dare to take the risk. Leaving the match and looking for other matches that can make us confident of the team that competes, so this is same as trading "don't make decisions when there are still doubts".
sr. member
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October 01, 2019, 08:01:28 AM
I wouldn't listen to it. I have never believed in fixed matches and random people knowing about it.

Yeah there’s no concrete evidence about fixed matches but this was been the issue for many times not either someone cheat or others fix the games
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Matches and fights are manipulated but not in a way that everyone should know about it.
You’ve got a point here this must be a round table topic and not for general public
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They would try to keep it under the radar to avoid getting caught and not talk about it with people they don't know.
And they would never spoil the situation because this will reverse the scenario they wanna portrayed if the news leaked
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October 01, 2019, 05:18:59 AM
In the first place, if it is just a hearsay from the locker room then you can't trust the guy. That is called, a "rumour". Why not stick to your own guts, at the end of the day you are the one ( I mean, your friend) will be the one to get profits at the end or lose at the end. My point is, if he sticked to his plans no one will be blame of.

On the other hand, some said you bet at both players. It can be possible, bet 60% to the player you think will gonna win and 40% to thr other player.
hero member
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October 01, 2019, 03:09:04 AM
Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?
I would not listen to the suggestion of this random guy.

Why should I believe him? Is he a reputed person or well known in the world of sports?

I'd rather believe my instinct to choose who is likely to win base on my own knowledge of their previous fights and ignore this guy its a waste of time to think about what he said.
legendary
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October 01, 2019, 02:37:07 AM
I wouldn't listen to it. I have never believed in fixed matches and random people knowing about it. Matches and fights are manipulated but not in a way that everyone should know about it. They would try to keep it under the radar to avoid getting caught and not talk about it with people they don't know.
sr. member
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October 01, 2019, 02:28:41 AM
#99
It is a random guy and it is hard to decide whether if you will trust it or not. I think it would have been better if you edited your post and told us that if the random guy is telling the truth or not.
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October 01, 2019, 02:05:49 AM
#98
How come you have been trusted that random guy who whisper you. If the friend of OP had any sense and not listen to that stranger because probably that guy spy from other opponents and might wanted to fall in the trap and when having a bet.

Just focus your own bet, don't be distracted people around you you will not know who are they. And it should have a lookout behind you to prevent a scenario like that.

That could be true, but if he believes that guy was telling right especially if that guy can explain why he whisper us and said we should choose and follow him, I think he can follow the advice from that guy. But maybe that guy only wants to make us stress to select the right team, and that will happens if we don't have reliable info about the teams. Once we are too stressful, I think we need to leave it and don't choose any of the teams because we cannot focus on what we want to select.
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September 30, 2019, 04:19:43 PM
#97
It's likely they have "whisperers" in games

While chatting in sofascore room you will find plenty of whisperers commenting live that this match is sold, X had sold this match to Y. But as soon as the results are near they are offline and we never hear from them. Frankly i would ignore such whisperers.
I also supported what you said because a strange don't worth to be trust cause they are the same as the online crypto traffic group which make false news in other to pump the price of their no potentials holding.
How come you have been trusted that random guy who whisper you. If the friend of OP had any sense and not listen to that stranger because probably that guy spy from other opponents and might wanted to fall in the trap and when having a bet.

Just focus your own bet, don't be distracted people around you you will not know who are they. And it should have a lookout behind you to prevent a scenario like that.
legendary
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September 30, 2019, 02:16:37 PM
#96
It's likely they have "whisperers" in games

While chatting in sofascore room you will find plenty of whisperers commenting live that this match is sold, X had sold this match to Y. But as soon as the results are near they are offline and we never hear from them. Frankly i would ignore such whisperers.
I also supported what you said because a strange don't worth to be trust cause they are the same as the online crypto traffic group which make false news in other to pump the price of their no potentials holding.

because we shouldn't be easy to trust strangers, regardless of whatever the goal is, i don't think it's a hint or anything about the whisper because in bets we should be confident in the choices we have made and it's not easy to change bets because whispers are a strong attitude to keep going ahead
hero member
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September 30, 2019, 10:46:03 AM
#95
It's likely they have "whisperers" in games

While chatting in sofascore room you will find plenty of whisperers commenting live that this match is sold, X had sold this match to Y. But as soon as the results are near they are offline and we never hear from them. Frankly i would ignore such whisperers.
I also supported what you said because a strange don't worth to be trust cause they are the same as the online crypto traffic group which make false news in other to pump the price of their no potentials holding.
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September 30, 2019, 10:24:39 AM
#94
Lookout for the guy,is he comes to that place often or he linked with the players?

Most probably it will be just to gamblers if he lost his money from these kind of bets so he actually looking for everyone to lose.
It is indeed suspicious, but if we have money that can be spent it does not hurt to try it because this is gambling and maybe it will be another lucky factor that might make us win easily.
Its our money,why we want someone else to decide what we need to do,we know that results in gambling can be never predicted so how can we trust a random person with our money.

It's not that we are going to let someone to decide what we should do, it is all about having doubts because of random informations that a random stranger could tell you, and it is not also like we are entrusting to them our money by listening to what they spread. The problem here is our minds, we are just being extra careful not to lose our bets making us to hesitate, one wrong move and you're done.
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September 30, 2019, 09:27:56 AM
#93
If the guy is not coming from the camp of the favorites then it's a piece of fake news and you should not follow the advice,  you need to verify if the report is true and there are few who knows this, then you are lucky because you are going to win big because there's going to be an upset that is going to happen.
hero member
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September 30, 2019, 08:55:09 AM
#92
At that point, its kind of difficult to know who will win and which side to be on. Seriously, in some situations its going to be very difficult to believe the random guy especially when every verifiable evidence pointed otherwise. An example is the last fight of Anthony Joshua which he lost, or a match between a team like Real Madrid and one less known club. In that situation, it will take an outright gambler without any form of loyalty to switch sides and to be in a better position having had the experience in the world of gambling and the possibility of fixing, then my suggestion would be to bet on both sides worst case scenario would be a non-profit position but no loss as well.
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September 30, 2019, 08:17:08 AM
#91
We all know dirty games are also happening with big matches... But as for me, if would to hear that, I would still go on with whom I want to bet. You don't even know who's that guy who whispered to your friend so why bother listening to it. Though it's kinda suspicious but you don't just let anyone tell you who are you going to vote. What if he's just manipulating your friend's mind.
hero member
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September 30, 2019, 12:14:13 AM
#90
Fighters mostly have great pride and would not sell their games especially that their reputation is on the line. Think first before changing your hearts favorite.

Not all, every pride has an equivalent price of money, if they are all honest, sports should not be called as corrupt and there's a lot articles I read in the pas that there a certain players or fighters rigging the game for money. If we are a gamble we should not trust automatically decide to bet on our favor, by looking at this possibility of rigging, that will increase our chances of making good selection.
legendary
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September 29, 2019, 03:42:56 PM
#89
It actually depends on me if i know what I am doing and i know what is the capability of the fighter I'm choosing then i would choose my best fighter. But if i am having a doubt to the fighter then i might rather consider the option of a stranger but I wouldn't give all of my bets since I don't trust any stranger. But if I know who is that stranger, then I might consider to put a huge bet.

I think that will be a very bad idea. The corruption is so intense and in private that anything you see as a conspiracy might be just reverse psychology. They may try to show that the game is fixed but it is actually fixed but for the opposite outcome and the twist will come at the very end moment of the game. Hence I think if you suspect that the game is fixed it's better to not put any bet on it because it can turn on any side.
Thats right, That unknown person might try to confuse you or trying to making the odds of the underdog low. First things first, why would an unknown person leak confidential info to a random person. If you are trusting the fighter that you are betting why would you bet on the underdog? Fighters mostly have great pride and would not sell their games especially that their reputation is on the line. Think first before changing your hearts favorite.
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September 29, 2019, 01:12:48 PM
#88
It actually depends on me if i know what I am doing and i know what is the capability of the fighter I'm choosing then i would choose my best fighter. But if i am having a doubt to the fighter then i might rather consider the option of a stranger but I wouldn't give all of my bets since I don't trust any stranger. But if I know who is that stranger, then I might consider to put a huge bet.

I think that will be a very bad idea. The corruption is so intense and in private that anything you see as a conspiracy might be just reverse psychology. They may try to show that the game is fixed but it is actually fixed but for the opposite outcome and the twist will come at the very end moment of the game. Hence I think if you suspect that the game is fixed it's better to not put any bet on it because it can turn on any side.
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September 29, 2019, 12:56:02 PM
#87
If that was a horse racing i would pick the longshot since fixing in racing are true in my country but i didn't that happens in boxing too. Anyway if that happens i will just cancel my bet since i really don't know if the stranger tells the truth or he's just fooling other gamblers that the fight will be rigged so, that the other competitor will have bets and many money will return to casino.
Well, probably true. But first, ask the strange person who whispers you, how did he know the result since that is not a fixing game/sports. But if the guy whispering you can't provide such information, better to not listen to him.
Some instances might the person whispering you is your opponent and wanted to gain more on the placing bet you have made. Stick to your plan and decision and you will be fine and don't listen to the strange people that you don't know.
legendary
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September 29, 2019, 12:30:17 PM
#86
Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?

The moment you have a second thought about where you are going to put your bet, you already lost. You don't want to listen to a stranger that randomly walks towards you and say something like that, most of the time it is just a bluff or he is just making fun of you, and if he successfully get into your mind, then you are messed up. So if you are having a hard time deciding where to bet, because you have second thoughts, please don't bet your money, I'm 100% sure you are going to lose that bet.

Go to another game and place your bet on something you are sure about, so you will not regret anything you do in the end.

It's just plain stupid, to be honest. And i think people aren't dumb enough to place bets based on the suggestion of a complete stranger. That just won't make sense

That's stupid, without doubt, and it doesn't make sense either

But stupid is how human mind works in default mode and stupid is what humans do all the time, all of us (so it is kinda natural). Technically (or should I rather say psychologically?), what we are dealing with here is called priming. Priming works unconsciously and it is a real thing even if it is subliminal (you can search Google for a thorough description and explanation of this phenomenon and how it works in real life)

In simple terms, if you are undecided on some matter, the events that immediately precede the moment you make the decision (whatever those might be) will heavily affect it even if you are completely unaware of the connection. So if someone wants you to make a certain decision or just instill doubts about that decision (which seems to be the case here), they can plant the seeds of doubt in this manner and that will in fact cause doubts

My action will depend on who this person who tells that is

If the person is a total stranger (as per OP), the most likely explanation is that you are massively undecided (which can be easily read from the cues your body and face betray) and someone wants to make fun of you by taking your indecision to the next level (apart from manipulating you into making a wrong bet)
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