Will You Believe That It's A Fix - page 5.

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Quote from: bering on September 27, 2019, 01:39:13 PM

I'm curious to know the result of boxing match whether the underdog won or such as people predicted that the favourite won the fight because he was too strong for his opponent but listen unknown people to make a bet is not good decission because he can be lied and i fear they or he will provide wrong option to us and to gamble i think before making bets you should be confident to your own choice

I am the one that started the thread and already made a post on who wins, it's actually fake news, the favorite win the match and it was a very dominant performance, but unfortunately, he did not double-check and he lost a big amount of money.
I think this is not an isolated case, it's some sort of syndicate to give rumors and when they buy it they can level the betting.
it happens to small matches but I doubt if it's happening to big matches.

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I'm curious to know the result of boxing match whether the underdog won or such as people predicted that the favourite won the fight because he was too strong for his opponent but listen unknown people to make a bet is not good decission because he can be lied and i fear they or he will provide wrong option to us and to gamble i think before making bets you should be confident to your own choice

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Well, probably it will be fixed and it depends on the situation. I won't trust those random people who telling or trying to dictate you which better and have a chance to win. At the first place surely you feel doubt of course. Probably there is a trap ahead or might be the guy who whispers telling the truth. A better option I guess is to talk back the guy who whispering you and ask where did he come from that horrible information. Grin

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If i already had a bet on the other guy I wouldn't change it but if I did not have any I'd measure my trust in money. If he looked trustworthy I'd put some money on it like 20 dollars. This would still be a nice big win because the boxer is an underdog and if i lost it wouldn't be painful. The loser my trust the less money I'd bet.

Usually the person with the tip has nothing to gain by making you bet a few dollars so it's a joke or he's telling the truth.

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You should verify the source of the issues and ask the guy who told you that, double-checking is very important but fixing a fight should not be tolerated but it will put you in trouble if you tell the authorities, it's better to verify and if you cannot verify it, then it's better to go to your original bet.
You'll know if the guy is telling the truth after the fight if the heavy favorite is not giving his all in the fight, usually, a big syndicate is behind this, it's better to keep quiet to protect yourself.

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Quote from: robelneo on September 27, 2019, 08:58:13 AM

Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?

Depends on how big the said event is.

If for normal and small events, like small competition, small leagues or something along those lines, a fixed match is more prone to happen. There is a chance that the unknown guy is telling the truth or just luring anyone on a trap to loss at the end.

If for big events, fixed matches are quite not likely to happen or just a low chance. It was surely organized by a Central Sports Organization or any related bodies and there are big people and companies (as sponsors) behind those events that obviously, they can't just be lured to do something illegal. And players involved in that said event does have a reputation to protect and one wrong mistake to participate in that fixed match scheme, they will surely say goodbye to their career. And for let's say, there's a fixed match involved on such big event, it was done professionally and not just via random guy whispering to random people on the venue.

Bottom line: Why should I follow those?

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Quote from: robelneo on September 27, 2019, 08:58:13 AM

Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?

It's a risk and it may sometimes be worth to take the risk. If i were at your side, i would have listen to my friend and take the risk. Also you know that if you go against the majority of the bets, you get the better amount on winning such bets.

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Quote from: robelneo on September 27, 2019, 08:58:13 AM

Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?

Just ignore it,do what you are intended to do.He has no reason to tell you that match was fixed for free.

There are some random people out there to confuse the players too,they will get fun when you lose the bets which is kind of addiction too.

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Some scenario on this kind sports, actually have that. Unless the player was very talented at all aspects. But if not and just want some fame, your team especially the company can make a fix match for that specific untalented person.

And if you'll gonna ask me, if I haven't accidentally heard that then I might go for the other one, but besides I overheard that conversation then I will go to the sure winning team. Money is a different thing here, I don't care about idols and their careers LoL.

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No, they are telling people randomly for a reason and its not likely to be a reason that benefits you. Seems unlikely to work out, unless this hint coincidences with a suspicion you already had or plays into thinking you were already considering then no.
Theres always hot tips, especially on horse racing as well but theres nothing as good as knowing the ground, the horse and jockey because it all adds up. Throwing a fight and that news getting out would ruin the odds, if someone is paying for that throw they dont want it to get out.

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It actually depends on me if i know what I am doing and i know what is the capability of the fighter I'm choosing then i would choose my best fighter. But if i am having a doubt to the fighter then i might rather consider the option of a stranger but I wouldn't give all of my bets since I don't trust any stranger. But if I know who is that stranger, then I might consider to put a huge bet.

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I won't mind, but there are such incidents happening around. Recently in our forum one of the user revealed about a confirmed win on a match. I don't remember it clearly, it seems to be basketball tournament in Philippines. That was a fix and for two matches he suggested the odds, as he mentioned the respective odd won. So, if it is from trusted source then we can go for it.

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Quote from: Deborah Christine on September 27, 2019, 11:39:47 AM

If I will digest this person's words again, I will think carefully. I will see opponents who fight whether they have a chance to win or not. And the final decision I prefer to trust my instincts rather than trusting what people say. And I will have no problem if my choice loses.

well said, why will take that risk without even looking for assurance? of course if you have enough understanding about the possible things that might happen, you will not believe it. Since nowadays people are using different strategies to deceive us and that is the reason why we need to be conscious of everything.

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I would be highly doubtful that this random person in the audience actually knows that the match is a fix, and if he had such damning information, why would he tell me?

Fixing in sports is highly illegal, people don't just go spouting off this information willy nilly. That's a good way to end up in jail.

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Quote from: robelneo on September 27, 2019, 08:58:13 AM

Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?

unknown ppl are not trustworthy human on this earth mate. so you must not listen to them because, who knows maybe they are in the other side ? so you should focus on your bet especially if you are really sure that your favorite boxer has a potential on that match. Be practical and stay away on that kind of rumors because regrets always happened afterwards so always listen to your mind not on the rat that keep running on your heart. Lol

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If I will digest this person's words again, I will think carefully. I will see opponents who fight whether they have a chance to win or not. And the final decision I prefer to trust my instincts rather than trusting what people say. And I will have no problem if my choice loses.

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Quote from: Malsetid on September 27, 2019, 09:30:03 AM

First of all it's an unknown guy. Any guy could come up to you and blabber anything. Why would i put my money on some random guy's suggestion. For all i know it's just a way to manipulate the people's bets. Or that person may have other reasons why he did that. Bottomline is, there's no reason why i would trust someone who randomly comes up telling me where to place my bets.

You know what you are right, back to my friend's story, it is a fake report, the heavy favorite wins the match and he happens to bet on the underdog with all his money, unfortunately he did not see the guy who whispers to him anymore, it's a lesson learned, he should first verify the source of the news, it's a strategy by other people to deceive others to bet on the underdog.

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Quote from: robelneo on September 27, 2019, 08:58:13 AM

Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?

Hard to understand what you are trying to say. I am assuming you are saying that you placed a bet on a team but then a random person comes in with information that the match has been fixed and knows who the winning team is and tips you with who the team that is going to win will be. Well, first of all, why would I listen to a random dude tell me who is going to win. Secondly, why would that person randomly tell me who is going to win? I mean what is in for him? How is going to get any profit/benefit from telling me this secret? Everything would sound fishy to me so I wouldn't pay attention to him.

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I think something like this has become an issue that there are a number of matches set up for who will win, which is surprising, but when it comes to money a lot of things can happen.

Quote from: robelneo on September 27, 2019, 08:58:13 AM

Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?

If this happen to me the I will stick to my choice even if there will be regret because what he says happen. For me it is more important to trust my own choice than someone's advice that we don't know who he is.

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Quote from: Malsetid on September 27, 2019, 09:30:03 AM

First of all it's an unknown guy. Any guy could come up to you and blabber anything. Why would i put my money on some random guy's suggestion. For all i know it's just a way to manipulate the people's bets. Or that person may have other reasons why he did that. Bottomline is, there's no reason why i would trust someone who randomly comes up telling me where to place my bets.

I agreed this fixed thing can be a set up only and like what you have said why would you put your money on a random people's suggestion this might be a trap in the end and if you would bet your money on it and turns out it is not you can not take back what you have lost, And if this is a syndicate you might get in trouble if you would make a scene that you want your money back, or worst the authorities will not believe you, I don't see any point on making the matched fixed if it is a main event but I guess this kind of fixed part maybe is happening but not with the main event ones.

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