Will you cheat in gambling? - page 26.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Morality can sometimes be quite an easy thing to go against with really, especially in cases where you're current situation heavily needs the rewards that will be offered, so I'd say maybe.

In regular cases I probably wouldn't even look at it, I'd simply avoid and blacklist whatever it is that was related to the sports fixing (or whatever similar causes for the cheating to happen), but in cases where that could be my possible break (not in terms of money but in terms of fixing my problems)? I can't really answer since I haven't been put in such a situation, but I can't also straight up say I won't be tempted.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

For the most diverse reasons, my answer would always be NO.

As you well commented... morality is the main factor here and I always look for honest casinos to play and in return I always offer my honesty in the games I play.

Second... I believe that it is very unlikely to find any point of failure in online casinos, this is the main concern of both casino owners and platforms.

Third... any "pattern deviation" in a player's earnings triggers an "alert" to the site, which starts to record the last bets made in order to carry out an investigation in order to verify if the player stole or not. And that should be pretty easy to investigate.

Fourth... I play for fun and not for money. I'd rather keep getting honest money from my job to spend at the casinos and never make the casino my source of money.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

I wouldn't, not that i even knew how to. But weirdest thing is that there was a one guy while back that "cheated" in casino at Finland. Casino saw this guy taking video from slot machines, then he changed slot gambling pattern, removed auto spins for example and started winning. Casino took that man to court explaining that he cheats "somehow", no one even seemed to know how. And they made him pay the winnings back.

Now i am guessing they knew how he was winning and it just wasn't never released to press, but imho if you design a slot machine that way it can be cheated, it's developer's fault all the way.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

I think this question should be left to those gamblers and programers that can manipulate a casino machine. It can be a difficult task for those gamblers that have not knowledge on how to manipulate a casino machine. Even though I have the skill to hack a casino machine, I will never do that because being caught alone can cause a very big problem and can lead to jail if being arrested. It is good we try maintain a good reputation in anything we are doing so that we will not lose our reputation even though we are not getting the best from life.

There's no way you could cheat on a casino unless if you are really that good on finding some exploits or holes into their codes on which you could really be able to cheat and would be able to make huge withdrawals.

Cheating is possible but it is something that complicated and only a few could do but most of the time these platforms does have that good security on which means that even if you are a good hacker, there no way
that it would be that simple for you to bruteforce on trying to find some leak out and take advantage to it. No business owner wouldnt really be so careless about security because this type of business
does involved huge money which it would really be that just right that they would really be investing into security.

Cheating is unethical but most people would ignore as long they would be able to make money then that what matter the most.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

I think this question should be left to those gamblers and programers that can manipulate a casino machine. It can be a difficult task for those gamblers that have not knowledge on how to manipulate a casino machine. Even though I have the skill to hack a casino machine, I will never do that because being caught alone can cause a very big problem and can lead to jail if being arrested. It is good we try maintain a good reputation in anything we are doing so that we will not lose our reputation even though we are not getting the best from life.

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We're into gambling to win and have some money in our wallet. Obviously I'll give a try if the insider information received is something verified. Till date I haven't looked for any such ways, but I've experienced it. Years back someone posted on our forum about a fixed match and I spent just $10. Same as what's been stated the winning of the team happened. I'm not sure whether it's a coincidence or real insider information, I was able to make a win that day.

Maybe one in ten will doesn't agree to trick and earn whereas the majority look for this opportunity, so that they were able to make some confirmed winning without risking high.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

If we already have moral standards, it will not be easy for us to turn into individuals who have no morals, even though knowing how to commit fraud and cheating guarantees up to 100% success.
We can see how people who can or know loopholes in a casino prefer to tell them, rather than taking advantage of this by cheating, even things like this can be made into a job that makes money, so why cheat, if we are not prepared with If you lose, then it's better not to play, and saying that it's because the casino is cheating is a groundless accusation.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Quote from: Ayers on June 22, 2023, 06:13:59 PM

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Like you said OP, an upright man cheating is not possible,even though he losses all he had on gambling. If he cheats because he know a trick that is 100% sure,and cheats,I don't think is is worthy to be called an upright man anymore. Gambling is a game of luck and why must one cheat.

When you see gambling as a means of entertainment, you will hardly think of cheating because it wouldn't come to your mind,when you are carried away by the fun. It is people who see gambling an a means to make project that will go to any length if possible to cheat and win big.

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As much as possible I won't. I won't also like it if there is a way to do so simply because if I have an option to cheat, what would be my assurance that other players could not also do so? I'd be okay losing amounts 'coz I know how to manage the risk and to limit the amount I would be betting on each day. Yes, winning is what we want in gambling but if it is in exchange to a corrupted game, then I won't mind considering such thing. But I'm not closing the curtains to those who'd say they will; we are having different circumstances and I cannot blame other people who'd be fine cheating just to win. It is just that my personal take is to not do so. Just like in normal computer game, once an individual discover a hack or cheat, others would also do so leaving the game wrecked on the long run.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out?

If I can do it without the risk of being found out and being jailed(or something), why not, it's basically "free" money. but if there is a risk of being found out, I'd probably just report it.

Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

the problem with this despite being a "fixed game" there is still a lot of factor than can change the supposed result of the game. I'd probably bet on it but I wouldn't put much money on it.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 22, 2023, 05:22:11 PM

Is this something to bring up or tell someone else? We don't even know how many people there also cheat in gambling. And we also don't know how big the casino might do the same thing. Everything is for the sake of winning and earning money. Is it illegal, of course it is illegal and not allowed. And of course you will be penalized if you get caught. In this case, if you get caught. But that doesn't mean it will never be done. because after all, sometimes this is part of how we analyze and find something that is lacking from the casino and benefit from it. When gambling, sometimes we don't care anymore about the pros and cons, we only focus on the money and the fun we get.

Well, yeah, very well said, I believe everything you have said is based on the user or gamblers side, speaking on the casino's side, I would say that some casinos cheat too, cus cheating has two faces, it's either you as the gambler find a way to cheat the casino, which won't be easy, or the casino decides to cheat the gambler, which is quit easy for the casino if it turns out that that is how they have decide to make their money, as a gambler myself, I understand it's not easy to cheat a casino and not get caught, but for casino, especially those of them that are being managed by rogues, it's easy to cheat the gambler and get away even unnoticed, that's shows the imbalance in life.

Over all, we should not and never encourage cheating, simply because some body always ends up experiencing a financial hurt, either the casino or the gambler.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Nope- this is something that I see impossible for me to do no matter how the system neglects or cheats me. Remember that when the system fails a person, cheating or continue failing for them is not the answer. When this kind of scenario happens, the correct remedy is to change casinos given the number of available online casinos in the market nowadays.

Cheating is never the option no matter how difficult the situation may be. Contributing further damage and neglecting my morality for the sake of just winning money at the end is not worth it given on how I was raised in the first place.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

What I want to ask, how do we cheat in gambling. if, you had a trick that you said this, or the scenario you were told by an insider, would you do it.
second question, sports betting, how will this trick work. would you also say that you were told by an insider that for example team A would win the match. if so, how accurate is the information shared with you. also, why did they tell you.
another, how do we know which machine will give a bonus or jackpot. is there a casino that will give us a leak, or what kind of trick do you mean.

Let's talk realistically, in gambling it will be very difficult for you to cheat the casino. if there is such a trick, how to do it, even I never thought that far. because it seems, almost something that is impossible if we have to speculate. so, for sure, I will use my insight and knowledge when starting betting sessions especially with football.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Have gone through most of the comments that are above me and most of them are claiming they won’t cheat any casino, but the funniest part is that most of them don’t really mean it, some of them are just saying it, it’s easier said than done, but when they are in the situation then then won’t even think about it twice. You shouldn’t just judge yourself too early till you are in the situation. How will you feel after gambling with all your money and you keep on losing and you are being introduced to a trick which is going to help you will back your money and some profit, just little people will be able to allow the money go without cheating.

Am sure some people which make comments on this thread will be looking for fixed matches, if you are looking for fixed matches it’s the same thing with cheating the casino, I don’t believe most people that are saying they won’t cheat a casino even if they are opportune.

And the given example of the OP how to cheat a casino is placing bet on a fixed game.
I guess some bettors are really placing bets on a supposedly fixed game. But how sure are you that it is indeed a fixed game?
This may happen in sports betting but with classic games such as hi-lo, dice, crash and others, I don't think cheating is possible here.
And that I agree with you, for sportsbettors who think they got a hold of such information of fixed game, they will probably place their bets hoping the tip is true.

I like what you explained, casinos are smarter than that. Fixed game/strategy or not, no one can cheat the house, and this will never change because these guys are professionals too. Before they offer you any game, they must have known all the possible cheating styles of the players and playing outcomes and how it can profit them or make them lose. This helps them to act appropriately.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

In the first place, how can you even cheat a casino?

Not unless you are in a group of hackers who wants to breach the security of the casino but still, you are against the odds and the success rate is not that decent. There is no 100% trick to cheat the casino and forget that mindset.

Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Again, in the first place, how can we even know the legitimacy of that tip? That information is not available in public. You can't just find that kind of information being offered to random bettors around. Besides, fixed games are inside jobs and mostly, not being shared.

Surely, those persons who will offer you both that kind of "supposed tricks" are taking advantage of you.

They won't provide that for free so you need to pay in advance.

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Nice question! I am personally against using any kind of software to cheat on casinos but there is nothing wrong to use fixed matches to take a possible money maker opportunity. Once Rollbit team has frozen withdrawals full day due to the detected exploit on the specific slot provider and many users have taken advantage of exploit with cashing out big amounts. Probably not ethic but many users didn't hesitate to take advantage of such an opportunity for obvious reasons.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 11:12:12 AM

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

If there’s a cheat that works 100%, most of the casinos now will experience bankrupt.
There’s no way for you to have a 100% profit in any machine in casino as it is being monitored closely. If you are thinking to cheat with the casino then good luck because if you get caught, expect the worst with your account. Personally, I will not do this at all because it is not safe and still its not guaranteed.

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I don't and wouldn't cheat, and I honestly can't understand why some people have resorted to this kind of thing when they know very well that the casinos will sooner or later find out and everything that person has won will be confiscated, so simply cheating is something that it's not worth it, in real life, to be caught while the person is cheating in a physical casino, that person will be taken to the police, so it's also not worth it to be cheating in the physical casino, there is another very serious point that many people who cheat don't manage understand the seriousness of the thing

and that when a person cheats in casino games, that person will also cheat in anything in the real world because for that person who is used to cheating in gambling, he will see nothing wrong with lying in all things in the real world and cheating in everything in the real world, and that person's lack of honesty and lack of character will be something that won't bother you, little by little that person will be alone because his relatives will run away from him due to the many lies he will always be telling And this cycle will not end, this person will teach your children that lying and cheating is something they are okay with doing.

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As far as the gambling site is fair enough to me, I will never think to cheat the gambling site. We must respect them and give appreciation when the gambling site offers its best service. Although we have the ability to cheat the games, we must realize that it is not the right way to cheat a source of our happiness. However, cheating in gambling games is almost impossible to do, the developer must have strong security. They will evaluate it regularly and if they know something wrong with the games, they must fix it immediately.

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Cheating is not ok on any way, and if you get caught you’ll regret it because your whole account will be restricted and worst, you cannot get your money anymore. I don’t want to try this even if they said its a sure profit because its not safe after all and I don’t want stress chasing with my account. Again, if you are in a situation where you just want to gamble and have fun, better to avoid doing this at all cost.

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