Will you cheat in gambling? - page 20.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on June 27, 2023, 02:57:19 AM

What's the possibility of cheating a betting site or casino.
But to be sincere, I can't give an accurate respond to whether I'll cheat or not until I am caught up in the situation, what you term cheating may not be so to me.

Once a casino was having a down time, the where to pay me 72$ but mistakenly paid 20$ over, I know so many person's would say their luck had shone on them but I made a report and I was awarded 2.5% of the 20$ that is 5$, it may not be much but at least I got my dignity and self respect, imagine if I didn't make an attempt to return the money and the eventually get to find out (I doubt they'd have found out though)

Wow this is truly dignity and I don't know of the chances to cheat a casino but frankly I don't think I will leave any stake unturned if I get the means to get some free money from a casino, I might not withdraw the money immediately bjt maybe wager more with the money and if I win I win and if I loss, let's say I returned it back to me.
Sometimes very decent people come into gambling and suddenly change after some severe losses and I'm not sure if persons like that will ignore any chance they might get to gain from the casino.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on June 27, 2023, 12:37:41 PM

Most of the majority say that we do not agree. however, if someone has a trick to trick gambling, especially in this case casino games, slots and the like. chances are, that person will do it lag over and over again. because after all, psychologically we will find it difficult to refuse money that we can easily get. if, there are underhand tricks in gambling. And I know about it, or we have an insider leak from the casino.

If you can cheat luck based games in casinos, you can do it once or twice but once you are addicted to doing this you will eventually be caught and your account restricted and your winning is confiscated and your IP and machine banned from registering in their platform, the casino script is very expensive and what makes it expensive is the anti-cheat software to make the casino cheat-proof, you must know or you are good at hacking the anti-cheat software to be able to get away but with a continuous update of the script you will eventually catch and pay for your action, so it's not really worth t cheat in the casino, better just have fun, getting your account ban and money confiscated is a big headache.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on June 27, 2023, 12:19:20 PM

Quote from: klidex on June 23, 2023, 02:24:43 PM

Quote from: retreat on June 23, 2023, 09:11:42 AM

So far I have never cheated on the casino platform I use and don't seem to have any intention of doing so. Even when someone said that there was a trick that could be used to outsmart the game, I had no intention of doing it. Not being hypocritical or anything, I just can't cheat because I feel so guilty when I do something wrong. What's more, I think that the casino platform must have been very smart to design their games, of course the chances of cheating will be very slim for the players.

Anxiety that makes us never calm when trying to cheat gambling.
I never thought that anyone would dare to cheat gambling for money or profit.
I agree with what you say that gambling sites have always been smarter than the fraudulent acts committed by gamblers.

I think that is what you called conscience. You are guilty about the thing that you did and makes you feel uneasy. You wish you never did it but I think this only happens to those who are not used of doing it but for those people who live to cheat, they will never feel any negative emotion right after they did it. They will only be glad and celebrate once their attempts are successful. Why you never thought a cheating can happen?

Are you not reading the news, forum post and other sources where they talk about this matter? Money is too powerful and for the many, they can do anything only to obtain it even if it's wrong. No matter how smart you think the gambling site is, a good cheater can still bypass them.

Conscience is something that everyone could easily ignored nowadays considering that making money or getting something which they havent been able to handle before do what matter most. We know that speaking about
conscience or ethical things is something that cant be applied on everyones decision most of the time specially in talking about money or opportunity on which they could be able to achieve. If someone does have the chance on seeing that they could cheat up on something specially on gambling casinos or whatsoever that they could see having that chance on making huge money then for sure those principles that they do have would most
likely be ignored and would be dumped out for the sake of money. Is it shocking? No its not because its always been part of human nature on being greedy which everything could really be exchange into that.
Cheating would be most like be done by someone if they do have the chance. Ethical or not well it doesnt matter much into those moments.

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Most of the majority say that we do not agree. however, if someone has a trick to trick gambling, especially in this case casino games, slots and the like. chances are, that person will do it lag over and over again. because after all, psychologically we will find it difficult to refuse money that we can easily get. if, there are underhand tricks in gambling. And I know about it, or we have an insider leak from the casino.

To be honest, I can't answer for sure. maybe I will do the trick to get a big profit. it is also possible, I will reject it because it is contrary to my values. Well, we will be faced with two possibilities. if our morals are not strong, then we will do it. fortunately, this conclusion is only a simulation which certainly does not occur in reality. however, it is very likely that there will be many gamblers who commit fraud. if, he has a chance. but that doesn't mean I generalize to all gamblers, but the temptation is indeed difficult for us to avoid. even, including myself. thankfully this kind of underhanded trick, which the OP said in the title of this thread, is rare. In fact, I'm not even sure if we can cheat slot machines.

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Quote from: klidex on June 23, 2023, 02:24:43 PM

Quote from: retreat on June 23, 2023, 09:11:42 AM

So far I have never cheated on the casino platform I use and don't seem to have any intention of doing so. Even when someone said that there was a trick that could be used to outsmart the game, I had no intention of doing it. Not being hypocritical or anything, I just can't cheat because I feel so guilty when I do something wrong. What's more, I think that the casino platform must have been very smart to design their games, of course the chances of cheating will be very slim for the players.

Anxiety that makes us never calm when trying to cheat gambling.
I never thought that anyone would dare to cheat gambling for money or profit.
I agree with what you say that gambling sites have always been smarter than the fraudulent acts committed by gamblers.

I think that is what you called conscience. You are guilty about the thing that you did and makes you feel uneasy. You wish you never did it but I think this only happens to those who are not used of doing it but for those people who live to cheat, they will never feel any negative emotion right after they did it. They will only be glad and celebrate once their attempts are successful. Why you never thought a cheating can happen?

Are you not reading the news, forum post and other sources where they talk about this matter? Money is too powerful and for the many, they can do anything only to obtain it even if it's wrong. No matter how smart you think the gambling site is, a good cheater can still bypass them.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 10:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Gambling changes people. I have seen a lot of it to know that the person who started gambling today will not be the same person with the same ideology when you meet them in 12 months. When you gamble and you lose or you win , you just start looking for more ways to get money from gambling. That's why you see that people go on sign up bonus hunting and all other things. Gamble responsibly doesn't mean gamble morally.

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Quote from: wiss19 on June 27, 2023, 02:10:19 AM

A casino would obviously suspect and think that something is wrong if a person who usually bets about $50 on each match will all of a sudden place a bet with $50k which is a huge and suspicious change of the capital or initial bet size. They might limit the account or start investigating the user after that.

If a player loses they may not push with the investigation but if the player happens to win now that will be a huge flag, that means the player knows that he is going to win so he bet a huge amount, the player should explain and the explanation should be satisfactory, casinos are aware on how a gambler thinks if there's a tip of fixing and they are sure of that they will bet huge that is not within their betting rage.

One of the things casinos are good at is tracing cheaters and making sure cheaters are not going to cheat, casinos have anti-cheat and they kept it hidden for possible exploitation.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 27, 2023, 08:53:04 AM

Quote from: Japinat on June 26, 2023, 02:20:32 PM

Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 10:12:12 AM

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Depends on the stand of your life because we all have our own choices to make and sometimes, depending on the situations we have, it might be a factor to trigger us to take advantage on something that gives us a much higher chance of winning because first of all, as a gambler, we seek money and entertainment at the same time and most probably, most people will certainly take advantage of these chances.

Cheating is highly prohibited and no gambling platforms will condole any form of this on their website, just as you wouldn't want to be cheated you had better not cheat on others because it's not a good thing to do, and once it's not good enough to do is very bad and uncalled for at all by all means and should be avoided, there's nothing like taking an advantage on anyone just to satisfy ourselves at the expenses of others.

But having a tip of a fixed game, that is an opportunity to exploit. One would pull out his stash just to bet on such game to exponentially win. I'm a sports bettor myself and over time I learned there are really fixed games, it's just there is no assurance of fixed matches. Assuming it's real, I will not bet a huge amount for it for its not necessarily a cheat, the information falls right into you and you are a gambler that will still have to weigh whether the information is true or not.

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Of course when a man places a bet he holds it in the hope of winning. But I have bet many times in gambling but lost most of the bets. Although I bet honestly if I was presented with a scenario where cheating was possible I would definitely take it. Because no matter how honest a person gambles, if he cheats to know how he can win, he will definitely follow those tips. Because no matter how honest the gamblers are, they are addicted to gambling and they always want to win. But I think no such cheating trap will be invented for the casino. If something like this is discovered to cheat the casino then the casinoicides will be delayed. And such fraud will never be possible so gambling will continue to result in losses and gains.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 26, 2023, 02:20:32 PM

Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 10:12:12 AM

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Depends on the stand of your life because we all have our own choices to make and sometimes, depending on the situations we have, it might be a factor to trigger us to take advantage on something that gives us a much higher chance of winning because first of all, as a gambler, we seek money and entertainment at the same time and most probably, most people will certainly take advantage of these chances.

Cheating is highly prohibited and no gambling platforms will condole any form of this on their website, just as you wouldn't want to be cheated you had better not cheat on others because it's not a good thing to do, and once it's not good enough to do is very bad and uncalled for at all by all means and should be avoided, there's nothing like taking an advantage on anyone just to satisfy ourselves at the expenses of others.

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Quote from: darewaller on June 27, 2023, 08:14:11 AM

Match fixing might be called like that but I think it was still a form of cheating because winning is guaranteed here. You are only being honest there and I think many of us will do the same. They have more confidence with this one because they will say that they are not the ones who do the fixing, but it was done by the people who are much closer to the game.

Actually it's not cheat in gambling, but match fixing is cheat the whole thing.

You're cheat against the sport, competitor team, league, visitors, etc, it affect to almost everyone who're participate on the sport and people who like the sport. I'd say cheating in gambling like you manipulate the outcome or lie with your choice, but as we know it's not possible in online casino because we're not a hacker.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 10:12:12 AM

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

What do you mean by a trick to win, is it something that you can manipulate the system of the game in the casino where you can control the outcome of the game?
Or you are referring it to something like a strategy which will still not give you 100% winning bets but you get bigger winning chance with the strategy?
If it is about manipulating the game like hacking the system, I wont do it although money is always nice but I dont think it is good way to make money.
But if you talk about strategy with higher chance of winning and it is proven, yes I'll try it but I will not use bigger amount of money than what I used to do while gambling normally.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 22, 2023, 03:10:16 PM

Cheating and a trick with 100% rate will make sure that you will win is entirely different.

If we are talking about betting on a fixed game then I would do, cause who just let the opportunity to go away!

And poker may be used to explain this thread more clearly, if you are bluffing its totally acceptable and its not cheating while if you sweep cards its cheating and you will be banned from playing there forever.

Match fixing might be called like that but I think it was still a form of cheating because winning is guaranteed here. You are only being honest there and I think many of us will do the same. They have more confidence with this one because they will say that they are not the ones who do the fixing, but it was done by the people who are much closer to the game.

And once they got busted out, it was mostly the people in the inside who are going to be arrested. In the game of poker, bluffing can be said as a trick but it's not guaranteed as the match-fixing. Bluffing might be allowed because it can be hard to tell that a player is bluffing or not but sweeping could be more obvious. You are still lucky if you will only be banned and not to be fined or sent into jail.

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I won't.

This isn't me being a hypocrite. I'm just well-aware of the consequences of cheating on a casino. Instead of harvesting good from it, it could cost you so much. Things that you don't want to give up or experience such as tragic event when it comes to losing your fund that you deposited because the casino detected there's something wrong from your account could possibly happen. The moment the casino notice something unusual activity from your gameplays, it will raise a flag alert that could make your account under monitoring or surveillance until proven not guilty from doing illegal and fraudulent activities. Your account might get suspended or permanently banned, which will make your options lesser in betting and playing. Restriction on making another account is possible too, especially if the casino has KYC process and diligently uphold the integrity of the players to protect it from abuse.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 27, 2023, 02:53:50 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on June 27, 2023, 02:29:07 AM

I think sadly this is characteristic thing. I had a friend in school in past who loved to cheat on any games you can imagine. It was literally his habit. I always told him you are ruining fun of it but he didn't care - only thing he cared was to win. I personally dislike cheating. Rules are certain to win. Its proudful to win at gambling through those rules. I also strongly warn people to not exploit/cheat at casinos. You may receive permanent bans or your assets may be frozen. Don't do it.

It is true that this kind of thing will become a habit and also an addiction where when doing any activity that can generate profit he will cheat as much as possible to make it easier to win.
Lots of cases like this happen and they always have a place to carry out their actions in the sense of moving from one casino to another.
They don't think about risk because in their brain there is only winning and winning.
If only the account is frozen, it's still not much because there is something worse, that is, it is rejected by any trusted casino that has been licensed.

Hard to say it is since we don't actually see the actual statistics pin pointing that scenario. But we can maybe discuss thru experience and it didn't come that way since we are here still fine doing our normal activity in some gambling sites. If you see someone doing some nasty cheating then maybe they are naturally born that way since a person who don't want to be fair always find ways to take advantage on some situation or other people. But also one thing is for sure no cheating will last long and all of it will get busted.

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What's the possibility of cheating a betting site or casino.
But to be sincere, I can't give an accurate respond to whether I'll cheat or not until I am caught up in the situation, what you term cheating may not be so to me.

Once a casino was having a down time, the where to pay me 72$ but mistakenly paid 20$ over, I know so many person's would say their luck had shone on them but I made a report and I was awarded 2.5% of the 20$ that is 5$, it may not be much but at least I got my dignity and self respect, imagine if I didn't make an attempt to return the money and the eventually get to find out (I doubt they'd have found out though)

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on June 27, 2023, 02:29:07 AM

I think sadly this is characteristic thing. I had a friend in school in past who loved to cheat on any games you can imagine. It was literally his habit. I always told him you are ruining fun of it but he didn't care - only thing he cared was to win. I personally dislike cheating. Rules are certain to win. Its proudful to win at gambling through those rules. I also strongly warn people to not exploit/cheat at casinos. You may receive permanent bans or your assets may be frozen. Don't do it.

It is true that this kind of thing will become a habit and also an addiction where when doing any activity that can generate profit he will cheat as much as possible to make it easier to win.
Lots of cases like this happen and they always have a place to carry out their actions in the sense of moving from one casino to another.
They don't think about risk because in their brain there is only winning and winning.
If only the account is frozen, it's still not much because there is something worse, that is, it is rejected by any trusted casino that has been licensed.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on June 27, 2023, 02:29:07 AM

I think sadly this is characteristic thing. I had a friend in school in past who loved to cheat on any games you can imagine. It was literally his habit. I always told him you are ruining fun of it but he didn't care - only thing he cared was to win. I personally dislike cheating. Rules are certain to win. Its proudful to win at gambling through those rules. I also strongly warn people to not exploit/cheat at casinos. You may receive permanent bans or your assets may be frozen. Don't do it.

Cheating is wrong no matter the forms it takes. No society or religion promotes cheating because it can destroy businesses. Some persons will say cheating is smartness but that is not the case because it is against the law or terms of services of the casino. These cheats will usually brag about those shady deals or games that gave them wins. Legitimate wins are not only a source of pride but it gives peace of mind. When you are engaging in illegal acts you will always be scared that your actions may be uncovered one day. And if a casino knows that you have been cheating them, you might be in big trouble.

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I think sadly this is characteristic thing. I had a friend in school in past who loved to cheat on any games you can imagine. It was literally his habit. I always told him you are ruining fun of it but he didn't care - only thing he cared was to win. I personally dislike cheating. Rules are certain to win. Its proudful to win at gambling through those rules. I also strongly warn people to not exploit/cheat at casinos. You may receive permanent bans or your assets may be frozen. Don't do it.

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Quote from: Josefjix on June 26, 2023, 03:15:24 PM

Quote from: Japinat on June 26, 2023, 02:20:32 PM

Depends on the stand of your life because we all have our own choices to make and sometimes, depending on the situations we have, it might be a factor to trigger us to take advantage on something that gives us a much higher chance of winning because first of all, as a gambler, we seek money and entertainment at the same time and most probably, most people will certainly take advantage of these chances.

We all need money to meet our needs and desires, but this comes at a cost, either via our hard work or through gambling, which does fit in the bills but is risky. That is the primary reason we gamble and work tirelessly merely to provide for our everyday needs. If an addict is given the opportunity to cheat, he will do it without hesitation; taking risks has always been their option. Cheating is determined by the gambler's thinking and actions. They cheat in order to make amends and regain their massive losses, so I totally understand their point, always watching out for massive profits.

For gamblers who are only looking for pleasure in gambling usually will not cheat, in this case they have no goal of making money or multiplying money, not being hypocrites with money but gambling by changing the mindset of seeking pleasure will make ourselves more controlled in playing gambling knows when to stop playing gambling is different if the mindset is still gambling wants to multiply money.

It's definitely an addict who will commit fraud because he will certainly find a way to return the money that has been lost in any way because his mindset is no longer looking for pleasure but looking for money from gambling where they never win, that's why why change the mindset in gambling is important. if our mindset is healthier then we will never think of cheating.

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