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sr. member
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Ace of ♠♠♠♠
August 22, 2014, 08:07:01 AM
Just tryed out the site and wonder if the site going to have automated betting .

Yes, auto-rolls are coming next week Smiley


wow nice Cheesy
waiting for the auto rolls on your site

admin's working kinda fast.  Wink Wink
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 595
August 22, 2014, 05:39:53 AM
Just tryed out the site and wonder if the site going to have automated betting .

Yes, auto-rolls are coming next week Smiley


wow nice Cheesy
waiting for the auto rolls on your site
sr. member
Activity: 523
Merit: 256
August 22, 2014, 05:28:45 AM
Just tryed out the site and wonder if the site going to have automated betting .

Yes, auto-rolls are coming next week Smiley
hero member
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Merit: 1000
August 22, 2014, 05:27:14 AM
Just tryed out the site and wonder if the site going to have automated betting .
legendary
Activity: 1672
Merit: 1010
August 21, 2014, 10:16:27 PM

Your example is has not been true for me as i had 3 investment set at 99.0 edge before you made this post, these are my results from 99.0, the top one has been there for about 3 days, the 2nd 2 days, and the 3rd is under 1 day, so how is possible that others using the same edge as me are ahead?  They have all suffered signifigant loss, and if your site has a policy of automatically closing they will never recover, and investors lose completely.  
Unless there is a bug in how investors funds are being pooled or used should not everyone at 99.0 be ahead together if they been invested for a few days?  The investment protection is not working for the edge you recommended.

bigger bets and more whale players for investors means they will have their investment drop to 0 faster and be booted out the bankroll unable to recover when house begins to win again

I cannot even close them now without taking a further loss as the site says you deduct a 0.5% fee to further penalize the investor if they close their investment.   Undecided





The numbers you show for those investments are cumulative result across all edges that investment counted for.
So in your case it looks like you have been moving your investments between different edges (correct me if I am wrong).

We encourage you to keep your investments in since they will pay off, but you should do whatever you feel comfortable with.
There of course is opportunity for some short term variance, but your current positions have already improved from what you posted and you are talking about being down 1 to 2% and again, these numbers should the current position of each investment which could have been moved between different edges.



What your saying about the cumulative result makes sense BUT I have not moved any investments into the 99.0 that were showing negative profit, the top one at 99.0 as been in that edge from the beginning and has not been moved between edges,  the 2nd one at 99 was move up from a lower edge that had receive no game and was at the original 0.01 so no losses or results to carry over there, the last one was also move up from a lower edge as it was not getting any games and had no losses.  so only 2 were moved but all 3 began 99.0 edge at 0.01. The first investment at top in 99.0 did show a small profit for the first 2 days before it completely reversed and is now negative profit,  the only one i had at 99.9 was as i said before was closed by staff when it got low and making a complete loss. 
I would like to invest a larger amount but these results are making me unsure of the system and if its really working as intended.  I never had a result like this on other sites I invested in, they always remain ahead even if only by a small percentage which I assume is because the investment is pooled together by site so that their amount invested equals their share of the house profits of the total across all investors, which of course I expect it to change as investors added or removed.

If the 99.0s I have all reach 0, then what happens, will they also be removed like my 99.9 was?  Either players are extremely lucky and the house is always losing but then as you said others are ahead at the same edge, as my 3 x 99.0 all began in that edge at 0.01, how can it be then these are all showing loss. 

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I have reduced the fee on losses temporarily from 0.5% to 0%.  The reason for the fee is not to penalize you more - it's rather to avoid people making huge short term sweeps.

I not sure I understand what you are trying to prevent here?  I can understand and see a need for a fee or method to prevent people exploiting the faucet via investment every few minutes, but don't think a fee should be charged on investments that is unchanged or negative profit and been active for a reasonable period of time. (eg 1 day)
sr. member
Activity: 523
Merit: 256
August 21, 2014, 08:03:35 PM
** 0.8% EDGE **
Since investors can invest at multiple edges and players get the best edge, we sometimes have even better than 1% edge.
Currently we have bankroll at 0.8% Edge

** NEW INVEST OPTION **
New investors keep 90% of house profits on Win88 Dice.  Fee is only taken on closing your position, so your investment money compounds faster (i.e. no weekly fees like the others!)

INVESTMENTS
==============
We are the first Bitcoin Casino to allow investments at multiple edges!
** Minimum Investment 0.01BTC ~ $6 **
** Invest from 0.1% (99.9) to 3.5% (96.5) house edge **
** Cashout Investments any time **
** Investment Protections + Dynamic Maximum Bets to Protect Upside **
** Users automatically play the best edge available **
** Move investments between edges with 0% fee **

https://win88.me/dice

please explain investment protection as it did not work for me.  I had my investment closed without consent after it suffered 90% loss.  Is it a bug?
 Why are investments not allowed to recover after losses? Investment is worse then playing dice if it only flows one way.  Undecided  




The investment protection works like this: maximum payout and maximum bet is dynamically set after every roll and set such that on any given roll only a small fraction of the bankroll can be lost.  Since this is dynamic, it would take a very very long string of player wins to have any effect.  

You invested a very small amount at odds of 99.99% which are effectively dead even.  This is a very rare edge case - when there are such a small amount of satoshi invested in any edge actually, even with investment protection given that there is 2000 satoshi faucet, the handful of satoshi only would of course have a set of people have string of wins and affect a small investment like that.  If bankroll is sufficient (i.e. free play is negligible effect) then investment protection does pay off.

An example of this is that 99.0 (1% edge) right now has the bulk of investors and every single one of them (I just checked is ahead).  
Some are already up 4x their original investment.

Even 99.9 or 99.99 would also come out ahead with even a relatively small bankroll.  To show this, I'll do this right now (put our house funds to play at 99.9 and share the results).  

I literally just tried 99.9 for a few hundred rounds with initial investment a little over 0.1 BTC and here are the results.
Results are even better now from when I took the screenshot.  



And here are 99.0 results for one win88 investor who started with 0.3 last week:



** My recommendation unless you have mega BTC to invest is to invest with the crowd at 99.0.
** The more that people invest, the better everyone does since larger bankroll means bigger bets and more whale players





Your example is has not been true for me as i had 3 investment set at 99.0 edge before you made this post, these are my results from 99.0, the top one has been there for about 3 days, the 2nd 2 days, and the 3rd is under 1 day, so how is possible that others using the same edge as me are ahead?  They have all suffered signifigant loss, and if your site has a policy of automatically closing they will never recover, and investors lose completely.  
Unless there is a bug in how investors funds are being pooled or used should not everyone at 99.0 be ahead together if they been invested for a few days?  The investment protection is not working for the edge you recommended.

bigger bets and more whale players for investors means they will have their investment drop to 0 faster and be booted out the bankroll unable to recover when house begins to win again

I cannot even close them now without taking a further loss as the site says you deduct a 0.5% fee to further penalize the investor if they close their investment.   Undecided





The numbers you show for those investments are cumulative result across all edges that investment counted for.
So in your case it looks like you have been moving your investments between different edges (correct me if I am wrong).
As such, if you took one investment that at say 99.9 and then switched to 99, then your cumulative results for that investment carry over.  We do this so that you can track results for original source of investment funding (even though it could be confusing if you switch your positions.

I have reduced the fee on losses temporarily from 0.5% to 0%.  The reason for the fee is not to penalize you more - it's rather to avoid people making huge short term sweeps.

We encourage you to keep your investments in since they will pay off, but you should do whatever you feel comfortable with.
There of course is opportunity for some short term variance, but your current positions have already improved from what you posted and you are talking about being down 1 to 2% and again, these numbers should the current position of each investment which could have been moved between different edges.

legendary
Activity: 1672
Merit: 1010
August 21, 2014, 01:53:24 PM
** 0.8% EDGE **
Since investors can invest at multiple edges and players get the best edge, we sometimes have even better than 1% edge.
Currently we have bankroll at 0.8% Edge

** NEW INVEST OPTION **
New investors keep 90% of house profits on Win88 Dice.  Fee is only taken on closing your position, so your investment money compounds faster (i.e. no weekly fees like the others!)

INVESTMENTS
==============
We are the first Bitcoin Casino to allow investments at multiple edges!
** Minimum Investment 0.01BTC ~ $6 **
** Invest from 0.1% (99.9) to 3.5% (96.5) house edge **
** Cashout Investments any time **
** Investment Protections + Dynamic Maximum Bets to Protect Upside **
** Users automatically play the best edge available **
** Move investments between edges with 0% fee **

https://win88.me/dice

please explain investment protection as it did not work for me.  I had my investment closed without consent after it suffered 90% loss.  Is it a bug?
 Why are investments not allowed to recover after losses? Investment is worse then playing dice if it only flows one way.  Undecided  




The investment protection works like this: maximum payout and maximum bet is dynamically set after every roll and set such that on any given roll only a small fraction of the bankroll can be lost.  Since this is dynamic, it would take a very very long string of player wins to have any effect.  

You invested a very small amount at odds of 99.99% which are effectively dead even.  This is a very rare edge case - when there are such a small amount of satoshi invested in any edge actually, even with investment protection given that there is 2000 satoshi faucet, the handful of satoshi only would of course have a set of people have string of wins and affect a small investment like that.  If bankroll is sufficient (i.e. free play is negligible effect) then investment protection does pay off.

An example of this is that 99.0 (1% edge) right now has the bulk of investors and every single one of them (I just checked is ahead).  
Some are already up 4x their original investment.

Even 99.9 or 99.99 would also come out ahead with even a relatively small bankroll.  To show this, I'll do this right now (put our house funds to play at 99.9 and share the results).  

I literally just tried 99.9 for a few hundred rounds with initial investment a little over 0.1 BTC and here are the results.
Results are even better now from when I took the screenshot.  



And here are 99.0 results for one win88 investor who started with 0.3 last week:



** My recommendation unless you have mega BTC to invest is to invest with the crowd at 99.0.
** The more that people invest, the better everyone does since larger bankroll means bigger bets and more whale players





Your example is has not been true for me as i had 3 investment set at 99.0 edge before you made this post, these are my results from 99.0, the top one has been there for about 3 days, the 2nd 2 days, and the 3rd is under 1 day, so how is possible that others using the same edge as me are ahead?  They have all suffered signifigant loss, and if your site has a policy of automatically closing they will never recover, and investors lose completely.  
Unless there is a bug in how investors funds are being pooled or used should not everyone at 99.0 be ahead together if they been invested for a few days?  The investment protection is not working for the edge you recommended.

bigger bets and more whale players for investors means they will have their investment drop to 0 faster and be booted out the bankroll unable to recover when house begins to win again

I cannot even close them now without taking a further loss as the site says you deduct a 0.5% fee to further penalize the investor if they close their investment.   Undecided


sr. member
Activity: 523
Merit: 256
August 21, 2014, 07:13:57 AM
** 0.8% EDGE **
Since investors can invest at multiple edges and players get the best edge, we sometimes have even better than 1% edge.
Currently we have bankroll at 0.8% Edge

** NEW INVEST OPTION **
New investors keep 90% of house profits on Win88 Dice.  Fee is only taken on closing your position, so your investment money compounds faster (i.e. no weekly fees like the others!)

INVESTMENTS
==============
We are the first Bitcoin Casino to allow investments at multiple edges!
** Minimum Investment 0.01BTC ~ $6 **
** Invest from 0.1% (99.9) to 3.5% (96.5) house edge **
** Cashout Investments any time **
** Investment Protections + Dynamic Maximum Bets to Protect Upside **
** Users automatically play the best edge available **
** Move investments between edges with 0% fee **

https://win88.me/dice

please explain investment protection as it did not work for me.  I had my investment closed without consent after it suffered 90% loss.  Is it a bug?
 Why are investments not allowed to recover after losses? Investment is worse then playing dice if it only flows one way.  Undecided  




The investment protection works like this: maximum payout and maximum bet is dynamically set after every roll and set such that on any given roll only a small fraction of the bankroll can be lost.  Since this is dynamic, it would take a very very long string of player wins to have any effect.  

You invested a very small amount at odds of 99.99% which are effectively dead even.  This is a very rare edge case - when there are such a small amount of satoshi invested in any edge actually, even with investment protection given that there is 2000 satoshi faucet, the handful of satoshi only would of course have a set of people have string of wins and affect a small investment like that.  If bankroll is sufficient (i.e. free play is negligible effect) then investment protection does pay off.

An example of this is that 99.0 (1% edge) right now has the bulk of investors and every single one of them (I just checked is ahead).  
Some are already up 4x their original investment.

Even 99.9 or 99.99 would also come out ahead with even a relatively small bankroll.  To show this, I'll do this right now (put our house funds to play at 99.9 and share the results).  

I literally just tried 99.9 for a few hundred rounds with initial investment a little over 0.1 BTC and here are the results.
Results are even better now from when I took the screenshot.  



And here are 99.0 results for one win88 investor who started with 0.3 last week:



** My recommendation unless you have mega BTC to invest is to invest with the crowd at 99.0.
** The more that people invest, the better everyone does since larger bankroll means bigger bets and more whale players



legendary
Activity: 1672
Merit: 1010
August 21, 2014, 02:53:49 AM
** 0.8% EDGE **
Since investors can invest at multiple edges and players get the best edge, we sometimes have even better than 1% edge.
Currently we have bankroll at 0.8% Edge

** NEW INVEST OPTION **
New investors keep 90% of house profits on Win88 Dice.  Fee is only taken on closing your position, so your investment money compounds faster (i.e. no weekly fees like the others!)

INVESTMENTS
==============
We are the first Bitcoin Casino to allow investments at multiple edges!
** Minimum Investment 0.01BTC ~ $6 **
** Invest from 0.1% (99.9) to 3.5% (96.5) house edge **
** Cashout Investments any time **
** Investment Protections + Dynamic Maximum Bets to Protect Upside **
** Users automatically play the best edge available **
** Move investments between edges with 0% fee **

https://win88.me/dice

please explain investment protection as it did not work for me.  I had my investment closed without consent after it suffered 90% loss.  Is it a bug?
 Why are investments not allowed to recover after losses? Investment is worse then playing dice if it only flows one way.  Undecided  

sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Ace of ♠♠♠♠
August 20, 2014, 10:30:42 PM
The site is extremely laggy for me.My ping is <15, but on the site it shows 200+. Everything is laggy, especially registration.

Will not being using it at all until it's less laggy.

Works fine for me though. If you are not using chrome, you might as well use chrome. Smiley

I guess it is not a browser issue.
I am having a ping of ~400 on both latest firefox and latest chrome.

I am having < 20 ping and about a little more than that in the site.. Is it because of the internet connection?
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1001
August 20, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
The site is extremely laggy for me.My ping is <15, but on the site it shows 200+. Everything is laggy, especially registration.

Will not being using it at all until it's less laggy.

Works fine for me though. If you are not using chrome, you might as well use chrome. Smiley

I guess it is not a browser issue.
I am having a ping of ~400 on both latest firefox and latest chrome.
sr. member
Activity: 252
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Ace of ♠♠♠♠
August 20, 2014, 09:36:05 PM
The site is extremely laggy for me.My ping is <15, but on the site it shows 200+. Everything is laggy, especially registration.

Will not being using it at all until it's less laggy.

Works fine for me though. If you are not using chrome, you might as well use chrome. Smiley
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August 20, 2014, 07:30:13 PM
The site is extremely laggy for me.My ping is <15, but on the site it shows 200+. Everything is laggy, especially registration.

Will not being using it at all until it's less laggy.
full member
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HUKOM BITAY! ✝✝✝
August 20, 2014, 07:06:59 PM
The web site looks fantastic, they are paying for your signature and you can even invest rather than gamble so you earn with the house. What's not to love? Win88 is the best Bitcoin gambling site to open up in ages!

And of course the Big Bang Theory reference is just icing on the cake  Grin

A very great way to summarize things up.  Wink Wink
hero member
Activity: 596
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August 20, 2014, 07:46:31 AM
The web site looks fantastic, they are paying for your signature and you can even invest rather than gamble so you earn with the house. What's not to love? Win88 is the best Bitcoin gambling site to open up in ages!

And of course the Big Bang Theory reference is just icing on the cake  Grin
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HUKOM BITAY! ✝✝✝
August 20, 2014, 05:55:18 AM
THIS IS FROM WIN88ADMIN

@win88dev fixed the issue so all set now with Dice. Finished a short nap and now back to sleep after making sure all good Smiley
____________________________________________

I think everything is now fixed. Back to business!

I just joined the site and went on to try the dice game - 9 losses in a row, with a 49.5 win chance... this is why I don't usually gamble. Roll Eyes

Such a peaceful site to lose btc though. Wink  Either go for the 10th game being a win or invest in the site and win that way. Smiley

Do both and you might lose big or win big. *wink* *wink*
member
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August 20, 2014, 03:34:35 AM
THIS IS FROM WIN88ADMIN

@win88dev fixed the issue so all set now with Dice. Finished a short nap and now back to sleep after making sure all good Smiley
____________________________________________

I think everything is now fixed. Back to business!

I just joined the site and went on to try the dice game - 9 losses in a row, with a 49.5 win chance... this is why I don't usually gamble. Roll Eyes

Such a peaceful site to lose btc though. Wink  Either go for the 10th game being a win or invest in the site and win that way. Smiley
full member
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HUKOM BITAY! ✝✝✝
August 19, 2014, 10:53:27 PM
admin can you reset my password in account anshar ?
i was forget the password and forget to put my email on it Cheesy

PM the password if you reset the password

You can PM coin princess for that. That way she can read it.

but she/he is not answering my question

She might still be resting as of now. They worked their ass out in the autocashout update and tweaking the dice game. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1071
August 19, 2014, 10:51:16 PM
THIS IS FROM WIN88ADMIN

@win88dev fixed the issue so all set now with Dice. Finished a short nap and now back to sleep after making sure all good Smiley
____________________________________________

I think everything is now fixed. Back to business!

I just joined the site and went on to try the dice game - 9 losses in a row, with a 49.5 win chance... this is why I don't usually gamble. Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 350
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August 19, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
admin can you reset my password in account anshar ?
i was forget the password and forget to put my email on it Cheesy

PM the password if you reset the password

You can PM coin princess for that. That way she can read it.

but she/he is not answering my question
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