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legendary
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August 19, 2017, 03:50:39 AM
#40
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1170840477/solargaps-smart-solar-blinds

I have a strong opinion not to solar mine as a whole unless you are a home miner and recognize that the capital outlays for the specific purpose of getting "free energy" to offset mining costs is a fallacy.
But, I am green and I have roof panels to run my entire household and am under the firm conclusion that I will ROI in about 9 years and feel better about my carbon foot print as it pertains to my household.
My mining is at locations where local power is predominately wind.

This device is probably nowhere near as efficient as roof based panels, but worthy of a discussion.

The problem with your 9 year ROI is that by that time the panels will lose a percentage of their efficiency, so with each year you'll be able to produce less and less.
I still think solar panels are not worth the trouble at current prices. They're only a viable option if you're in a remote area with no electricity or with frequent power outages.


I've been interested in wall mounted solar heating panels for quite some time and they can be quite efficient when placed properly. During Winter the sun is low, so it shines right on the panels. You have to take that into account because your electric panels will lose some of their efficiency as the Sun gets higher. Also glass in your windows will reflect some of the light. I don't think these will be efficient enough to be worth it.
sr. member
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August 16, 2017, 06:28:28 PM
#39
it is good idea. i love it.
sr. member
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August 16, 2017, 02:20:23 PM
#38
I don't think this would really work. Roof panels are positioned so they get sun all day. Your blinds only get sun about 1/3 of the day.

Just consider your home first or second floor in a flat.There the sun shine will always  their.So you will get Electricity of as much as Electricity generated in half a day.No will will say across this. If you want means you can keep the panels in roof also. No one blame you.It's your home.
brand new
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August 16, 2017, 08:38:24 AM
#37
I don't think this would really work. Roof panels are positioned so they get sun all day. Your blinds only get sun about 1/3 of the day.
newbie
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August 16, 2017, 01:27:40 AM
#36
Neat product, but as OP mentioned, the efficiency will suffer for many reasons:

Totally wrong angle, this makes a huge difference.
Through double pane low-e window glass, you lose a ton of power this way unless you have ancient windows.

On the plus side is that the panel temperature will probably be lower indoors.

Thanks for sharing, never seen these before.
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Blockchain with solar energy
August 14, 2017, 08:26:26 AM
#35
thanks for the info... Smiley
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August 14, 2017, 07:33:44 AM
#34
Lovers of nature should remember this: the production of solar panels - a very toxic production. Cheesy
hero member
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August 12, 2017, 12:59:31 PM
#33
Hi machine zero. I admire your work. I think a lot of people here are just concern about money and the fast ROI that is why they think your topic here is useless they don't  know that by farming and using a lot of electricity THEY HELP DESTROY THE EARTH.

I get your post and you inspire me to go green. THEY DON'T  GET THAT what you are saying is MINING THROUGH NET ZERO CARBON DIOXIDE or shall I say NO HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT and not contributing to a green house effect that causes climate change which in the future can KILL THEIR CHILDREN.

The moment the manufacturing shipping maintenance and the additional equipment need which come also with manufacturing and delivery process are consuming more energy that what this will ever produce then this is no green energy.

The whole idea is just a nice toy. You're losing untapped power just because of the placement.
It's far better to go with exterior panels or just window shutters that could go at least 30 degrees vertically during the day to catch more sun.

How much power are you going to get from this?

 
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Built-in solar panels can generate up to 100W-150W of renewable energy per 10 sq. ft. (≈ 1 m2) of a window, enough to power 30 LED light bulbs or three MacBooks.

Let me doubt this number

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Photovoltaic systems produce the most power during the day when the demand and price for electricity is higher.

Unfortunately no, it's not like that.
From the graphic of my country national grid system the peak is between the 20-22 hours  when solar energy drops from 1200 MW to barely 30-20.


If the Solar panels is accumulate with Windows mean it was the praise to us.We no need of thinking about how much Electricity we get from the panels. Since sun shine is for 12 hours maximum. So we will get the required amount of Electricity for the mining. If this setup come in market means .I will start mining.
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August 11, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
#31
very good ...i think
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August 11, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
#30
Hi machine zero. I admire your work. I think a lot of people here are just concern about money and the fast ROI that is why they think your topic here is useless they don't  know that by farming and using a lot of electricity THEY HELP DESTROY THE EARTH.

I get your post and you inspire me to go green. THEY DON'T  GET THAT what you are saying is MINING THROUGH NET ZERO CARBON DIOXIDE or shall I say NO HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT and not contributing to a green house effect that causes climate change which in the future can KILL THEIR CHILDREN.
sr. member
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August 11, 2017, 05:16:55 AM
#29
Замечательное решения для комнатного света...
Ну для более сильного потока эл-энергии, и тем более для майнинга, мне кажется что не сможет потянуть.А жаль.
И сколько интересно он может выдавать кв в день, что та не смог найти, эту информацию. 
Russian forum thread in a different place. Information about these blinds is not because they don't produce and can only power a few LEDs. People do not understand that solar energy is more an attempt to remind people of the necessity of careful attitude to nature than the solution.
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August 11, 2017, 04:46:16 AM
#28
Замечательное решения для комнатного света...
Ну для более сильного потока эл-энергии, и тем более для майнинга, мне кажется что не сможет потянуть.А жаль.
И сколько интересно он может выдавать кв в день, что та не смог найти, эту информацию. 
full member
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August 10, 2017, 04:01:16 PM
#27
Such an interesting idea. Does it give heat off into the home ?  I would love that, as my rigs are noisy and ugly.
sr. member
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August 05, 2017, 09:44:17 AM
#26
All modern technology is based on the use of solar energy is not effective. You will never recover the money spent. In a few years will use other energy sources and solar cells will be thrown away. The idea of mining on solar energy is fake.

Wow. Just nonsense.

I made ROI with my solar panels many years ago and still receiving energy from it.

And who's talking about mining on solar energy? I don't see that in this thread, because this is not about mining at all.
sr. member
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August 05, 2017, 06:53:20 AM
#25
It would be better to use window blind solar panels and roof panels simultaneously.
But I think blind solar panels are not effective because it blocks the sunlight coming into the house.
All modern technology is based on the use of solar energy is not effective. You will never recover the money spent. In a few years will use other energy sources and solar cells will be thrown away. The idea of mining on solar energy is fake.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
August 01, 2017, 06:03:46 AM
#24
Great idea but at $390 & up,not gonna recoup ROI anytime soon  Cheesy


Maybe ROI in the near future will not be a problem. Most importantly we can reduce costs and we can invest. The future will surely be very profitable, when all regions apply the price increase electricity then we can still use this tool. This is beneficial and profitable for a long period of time.
sr. member
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July 31, 2017, 11:59:53 PM
#22
It would be better to use window blind solar panels and roof panels simultaneously.
But I think blind solar panels are not effective because it blocks the sunlight coming into the house.
full member
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June 13, 2017, 08:03:56 AM
#19
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Yes Carbon is very good for plants, fact. However it is a "green house gas" and therefore can attribute in part to rising average temps globally, which can lead to melting icecaps, higher sea levels and erratic weather conditions.
So great for the plants inland, bad for the plants by the coastlines. Maybe good for the seaweed and algae that have more room.

Never researched enough, but always learning.

I agree on the fertilizer and antibiotics running off into water supplies and creating cascading effects for which we won't fully know the repercussions for decades or centuries.


ah sorry but that is way way off base and NOT what co2 is a greenhouse gas or why its used in greenhouses.   Co2 in a greenhouse has NOTHING to do with greenhouse effect whats so ever and its pumped in greenhouses to help stimulate plant growth to make up for the low co2 level in the air.   

Its also NOT a pollutant nore is it toxic unless you had concentrations so high that it smothered someone to death from it displacing all the o2 in the air.   like if someone happened to pass out in a sealed room full of dry ice.   I think also that being that most people who push the fake man made global warming caused by co2 nonsense also usually also tend to have no or very little understanding of science and tend to be science deniers who just go with what there emotions tell them to think about something.  So they end up not knowing the difference better carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide.   Which one is deadly and the other isn't. BUT to a lot of people they sound alike so they assume Co2 and Co are the same thing and they hear the word greenhouse and know its used in greenhouses esp indoor pot growing operations and thus when they hear its a greenhouse gas they say oh ya thats right and make a connection that is misleading and false .  Without thinking about how retarded it is to think that co2 ie soda bubbles are some sort of deadly poison. because they know that its not a good idea to suck off a cars muffler or that car exust is a major cause of smog. Then scream for cutting back co2 while not giveing a single crap about any real pollutants and things that are harmful.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
August 11, 2017, 11:36:43 AM
#17
Hi machine zero. I admire your work. I think a lot of people here are just concern about money and the fast ROI that is why they think your topic here is useless they don't  know that by farming and using a lot of electricity THEY HELP DESTROY THE EARTH.

I get your post and you inspire me to go green. THEY DON'T  GET THAT what you are saying is MINING THROUGH NET ZERO CARBON DIOXIDE or shall I say NO HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT and not contributing to a green house effect that causes climate change which in the future can KILL THEIR CHILDREN.

The moment the manufacturing shipping maintenance and the additional equipment need which come also with manufacturing and delivery process are consuming more energy that what this will ever produce then this is no green energy.

The whole idea is just a nice toy. You're losing untapped power just because of the placement.
It's far better to go with exterior panels or just window shutters that could go at least 30 degrees vertically during the day to catch more sun.

How much power are you going to get from this?

 
Quote
Built-in solar panels can generate up to 100W-150W of renewable energy per 10 sq. ft. (≈ 1 m2) of a window, enough to power 30 LED light bulbs or three MacBooks.

Let me doubt this number

Quote
Photovoltaic systems produce the most power during the day when the demand and price for electricity is higher.

Unfortunately no, it's not like that.
From the graphic of my country national grid system the peak is between the 20-22 hours  when solar energy drops from 1200 MW to barely 30-20.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
August 01, 2017, 12:52:14 AM
#16
Great idea but at $390 & up, not gonna recoup ROI anytime soon  Cheesy

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