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redmi4x

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Quote from: stealth.money on September 03, 2017, 03:10:43 PM

Quote from: anasso on September 03, 2017, 07:32:15 AM

hello all

in 2014 Mt-Gox was the outbreak of the winter cryptocurrencys. what do you think it will next weeks or month?

for me i think we are in an ICO BUBBLE and governments begins to regulate this anarchy. so the fall of a big ico(turned to be a scam) like tezos, eos, filecoin etc .. will be the outbreak of the comming cryptocurrencys winter.

brace your self

Just buy some Ark and forget all the scams.

ark is as scammy and ponzy pyramide sheme as an coin can be. Lets not forget the trash ark is trying to do wich makes zero sense. I would highly recomment staying out of ark and pivx. Ive been in their community since their ico and i can guarantee that the same people, if not the devs alone are manipulating their coin and dumping on every new customer.

Febo

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Quote from: Red-Apple on September 05, 2017, 08:09:23 AM

Quote from: Febo on September 04, 2017, 05:08:48 PM

Quote from: Red-Apple on September 03, 2017, 08:09:10 AM

poloniex of today has always reminded me of Mt Gox of 2013. they both control the majority of the market with their volume (Mt Gox 80% of bitcoin volume in 2013 and poloniex nearly the same of altcoin market today).
and with all the money that goes into poloniex it is like the Mt Gox waiting to happen and in case some day that happened it will be a very long winter... "and little children are born and live and die all in darkness while the direwolves grow gaunt and hungry"

Poloniex is far from controlling majority of the market. When was last time you looked exchange volumes?

It is only on 4th place.

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

With like 7-8% of the volume.

Bithumb which is the first one is a Korean exchange with 0 fee policy and it is more like the old Chinese exchanges with huge fake volumes. it should not even be in the lists.

Bitfinex is number 2 because of bitcoin and all its volume is coming from the USD markets mostly from bitcoin.

number 3 is bittrex which has grown in volume only because poloniex started acting shady and having issues for the past months. the high volume also comes mostly from bitcoin/USDT market in addition to NEO which is not available on poloniex.

and we are on #4 poloniex. when you exclude the bitcoin markets and only see the altcoins, it is still number 1 with a huge volume and others even report fake volumes to matter in this market.

As I know Bithumb have fees. Or you can say none exchange have fees, since fees for high volume traders are small or none on any exchange.

Red-Apple

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Quote from: Febo on September 04, 2017, 05:08:48 PM

Quote from: Red-Apple on September 03, 2017, 08:09:10 AM

poloniex of today has always reminded me of Mt Gox of 2013. they both control the majority of the market with their volume (Mt Gox 80% of bitcoin volume in 2013 and poloniex nearly the same of altcoin market today).
and with all the money that goes into poloniex it is like the Mt Gox waiting to happen and in case some day that happened it will be a very long winter... "and little children are born and live and die all in darkness while the direwolves grow gaunt and hungry"

Poloniex is far from controlling majority of the market. When was last time you looked exchange volumes?

It is only on 4th place.

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

With like 7-8% of the volume.

Bithumb which is the first one is a Korean exchange with 0 fee policy and it is more like the old Chinese exchanges with huge fake volumes. it should not even be in the lists.

Bitfinex is number 2 because of bitcoin and all its volume is coming from the USD markets mostly from bitcoin.

number 3 is bittrex which has grown in volume only because poloniex started acting shady and having issues for the past months. the high volume also comes mostly from bitcoin/USDT market in addition to NEO which is not available on poloniex.

and we are on #4 poloniex. when you exclude the bitcoin markets and only see the altcoins, it is still number 1 with a huge volume and others even report fake volumes to matter in this market.

viralz

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Nice,... Be ready.
I sort half of it in HODL mode
and some of it in fiat mode,.. get ready

Exidous

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Snow Had Fallen! and remember btc-e comeback. Many coin they hold will deposit to market. LTC, ETH and also Bitcoin.

omnik

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Quote from: Febo on September 04, 2017, 05:08:48 PM

Quote from: Red-Apple on September 03, 2017, 08:09:10 AM

poloniex of today has always reminded me of Mt Gox of 2013. they both control the majority of the market with their volume (Mt Gox 80% of bitcoin volume in 2013 and poloniex nearly the same of altcoin market today).
and with all the money that goes into poloniex it is like the Mt Gox waiting to happen and in case some day that happened it will be a very long winter... "and little children are born and live and die all in darkness while the direwolves grow gaunt and hungry"

Poloniex is far from controlling majority of the market. When was last time you looked exchange volumes?

It is only on 4th place.

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

With like 7-8% of the volume.

Bitfinex already comeback and taken the first place again, Poloniex is the worst exchange site right now. A lot of the polo users are moving to the bittrex as other option with smooth trade comparing with the polo itself. That doesn't make a surprise for me.

Febo

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Quote from: Red-Apple on September 03, 2017, 08:09:10 AM

poloniex of today has always reminded me of Mt Gox of 2013. they both control the majority of the market with their volume (Mt Gox 80% of bitcoin volume in 2013 and poloniex nearly the same of altcoin market today).
and with all the money that goes into poloniex it is like the Mt Gox waiting to happen and in case some day that happened it will be a very long winter... "and little children are born and live and die all in darkness while the direwolves grow gaunt and hungry"

Poloniex is far from controlling majority of the market. When was last time you looked exchange volumes?

It is only on 4th place.

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

With like 7-8% of the volume.

n691309

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Quote from: XbladeX on September 03, 2017, 04:11:35 PM

Quote from: n691309 on September 03, 2017, 10:56:24 AM

*** the real thing what matters are the goals, roadmap, team and how much active they are.

I was following many ICOs since inception and you know is really hard to find ico that is going within sheldue .
All time ICOs are missing timing they don't hire people to move forward project is goin in slow motion.
ICOs will collapse at end in 90% cases some will deliver but like any company it can die even with some platform.

I've seen some good ICOs but to find the best one need time and energy, we should count ourselves as big investors and we should need to get as much information as possible about the company, team behind it and their strategy how to spend the funds that they raise during the (pre) ICO phase(s) and what's next!

XbladeX

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Quote from: n691309 on September 03, 2017, 10:56:24 AM

*** the real thing what matters are the goals, roadmap, team and how much active they are.

I was following many ICOs since inception and you know is really hard to find ico that is going within sheldue .
All time ICOs are missing timing they don't hire people to move forward project is goin in slow motion.
ICOs will collapse at end in 90% cases some will deliver but like any company it can die even with some platform.

stealth.money

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Going stealthy

Quote from: anasso on September 03, 2017, 07:32:15 AM

hello all

in 2014 Mt-Gox was the outbreak of the winter cryptocurrencys. what do you think it will next weeks or month?

for me i think we are in an ICO BUBBLE and governments begins to regulate this anarchy. so the fall of a big ico(turned to be a scam) like tezos, eos, filecoin etc .. will be the outbreak of the comming cryptocurrencys winter.

brace your self

Just buy some Ark and forget all the scams.

BogdanGFTP

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I agree with you. I thought it must dumps that summer, but it was not

BarkingHawk

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Nothing rises forever. As hot as the spring and summer was for everyone in crypto, when(not if) winter comes it's going to be just as cold if not more.

HitTheLow

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HIT the low and HOLD till moon

there are a lot of scams... this is sure, but some ico like monaco tend and bancor that are advertised on forbes coindesk and new york times I think are very good investment that could make you rich.

FOR SURE MANY ICO ARE SCAM, you need do be really informed before invest Wink

GazorpPozorpec

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Guys do you seriously think that the government will crush this market as ico ? ico is definitely a bubble that will soon burst, there are a lot of scams but the government is not profitable to tear down the system. Yes, and they will not be able to do it. Too attractive this area is for investors. They'll just be her adjusting to fewer scam and to collect taxes. After the bursting of the bubble, the market will recover and go up. As it was with the IPO and the dot-com.

marketprice

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Lol, not even close, this is no bubble and we are certainly nowhere near the Winter, early Spring at best. The ICO bubble has deflated on its own, big ICOs, with a great team and a solid roadmap will thrive, those that don't adhere to these high standards will fail. We do not need governments to protect us in this age of information. Risk takers will always be rewarded.

DigitalLemming

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The ICO's are getting out of hand. Way to many happening now that I'm not surprised the law is getting laid down. Anyone can write a whitepaper and then have an ICO. Hopefully the true coins will rise from the ashes.

ioseta

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Quote from: K- on September 03, 2017, 09:51:58 AM

I suggest to focus on ICOs that have a team behind which already have a product/alpha release or something like that.
Don't just focus on the idea... cause it is very difficult to build it in.

Totally agree, and i think that complexity of the ICOs will continue and even increase. There had been many bad experiences. People just should be particular about being included an any ICO.

n691309

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Quote from: anasso on September 03, 2017, 07:32:15 AM

hello all

in 2014 Mt-Gox was the outbreak of the winter cryptocurrencys. what do you think it will next weeks or month?

for me i think we are in an ICO BUBBLE and governments begins to regulate this anarchy. so the fall of a big ico(turned to be a scam) like tezos, eos, filecoin etc .. will be the outbreak of the comming cryptocurrencys winter.

brace your self

The number of ICO is true that is very large and not expected to have so much at this time but there is higher risk of getting scammed because everyone can create an altcoin as a token based on ETH or any other "platform" and create a website and start the ICO, the real thing what matters are the goals, roadmap, team and how much active they are.

juicejoyce

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What a terrible day is today, almost all the alt coin drop about more than 10%, including btc and eth, it seems the reason is the Chinese government will announce a new critical policy about the ICO projects.

GRR

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Many bubbles of ICOs pop directly after their release on the exchanges. Just look at EOS, which is 1/4 of its ICO value atm. However, things need time for development and everybody dumping won't make it faster. EOS for 1.20$ is incredibly cheap now with all development coming up and reaching milestones in time. I suspect you will never get it any cheaper than this and should use the chance.

https://steemit.com/eos/@eosio/the-dawn-of-eos-io

This documents that, in fact, there is development going on, and an assets price does and will never reflect its inherent value and development, because it is bound to the speculation of nervous idiots who are always on the edge and prone to FOMO/FUD. Happened to other coins and will be the same here.

As in Filecoin, youre absolutely right to think that only madmen and complete idiots partake in an ICO that has nothing to offer except a FUCKING WHITEPAPER and raise it to 250 million dollars. It will be the same, they sell off their tokens, price falls and after 3-6 months development it gets traction. But again, the value does not correspond to the market cap. It is about the dev team, the community behind it and its actual usefulness. Then it will rise if you just look at it anually or quarterly.

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