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Quote from: RHavar on July 13, 2020, 10:15:22 AM

Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 13, 2020, 10:06:48 AM

After we finish the new update on the pf system we are going to get rid of the red tag.

If there was just an accidental flaw in the provably fair, and you fixed it -- it would be no deal. But there is a large amount of evidence that not only is your provably fair flaw, you were also actively cheating people. Unless you can somehow managed to provide convincing evidence that you were not in fact previously scamming people with rigged games (or provide a realistic explanation to why it won't happen again, like: our co-founder thought it was a good idea to rig games but we have since fired him) , I see no reason to remove my negative trust. A fixed provably fair system will just allow people to properly verify games, but it still won't prevent you cheating.

If you don't want to remove your negative trust there's no problem, we are not updating WixiPlay only to get rid of those negative reviews, we are doing it for our customers.

We didn't receive any reports from the people that actually play on WixiPlay, so please start playing before making accusations.

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Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 13, 2020, 10:06:48 AM

After we finish the new update on the pf system we are going to get rid of the red tag.

If there was just an accidental flaw in the provably fair, and you fixed it -- it would be no deal. But there is a large amount of evidence that not only is your provably fair flaw, you were also actively cheating people. Unless you can somehow managed to provide convincing evidence that you were not in fact previously scamming people with rigged games (or provide a realistic explanation to why it won't happen again, like: our co-founder thought it was a good idea to rig games but we have since fired him) , I see no reason to remove my negative trust. A fixed provably fair system will just allow people to properly verify games, but it still won't prevent you cheating.

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After we finish the new update on the pf system we are going to get rid of the red tag.

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Quote from: panjul07 on July 12, 2020, 12:27:15 PM

Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 12, 2020, 05:59:12 AM

Our dev team is working on the pf system once again, it will be completely changed, so we can end this problem once and for all.

Dont you think it is better if you consult it with Rhavar first before working on it again?
You said that it was fixed after the first accusation some time ago but in fact your red trust is still there so I and others can assume that nothing was changed on your PF system.
Or simply once you done with it, ask for Rhavar to check whether your PF system meets the Standard PF already or not.

This is also what I'm thinking for them to solve this problem quickly.

It's not going to be a bad thing if you ask or consult Rhavar since he's very known and professional concerning crypto casinos.

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Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 12, 2020, 05:59:12 AM

Our dev team is working on the pf system once again, it will be completely changed, so we can end this problem once and for all.

Dont you think it is better if you consult it with Rhavar first before working on it again?
You said that it was fixed after the first accusation some time ago but in fact your red trust is still there so I and others can assume that nothing was changed on your PF system.
Or simply once you done with it, ask for Rhavar to check whether your PF system meets the Standard PF already or not.

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Our dev team is working on the pf system once again, it will be completely changed, so we can end this problem once and for all.

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Quote from: virasog on July 12, 2020, 12:31:23 AM

I understand that you have updated the site and it is very likely that now the pf system is working correctly but what about the loss which have been made before. Do you have any plan to compensate the losses of the players ?

The proovable fairness system in Wixiplay.io could work fairly, but only in theory. They make it very hard to verify the proovable fairness of each bet by changing the server seed each bet and it's only revealed once you clicked at the timestamp of the bet, which wasn't self-evident in the self place.

From what I understand, this means that to check fairness, you would have to be checking each bet individually. RHavar had revealed this first, and he discovered that wixi likely could see when users checked the server seed, so they could fix the results only for unaware users this way. Then other users noticed that there were some statistically improbable strikes bets on the site and that there were even mismatches with the provable fairness system. T

From what I can see, the current website still makes it hard to check the provable fairness by changing the seeds every bet. A similar strategy is utilized by other shady sites for years like for example 999dice which has likely scammed hundreds if not thousands of people this way.

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Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 11, 2020, 10:32:35 AM

Quote from: virasog on July 11, 2020, 10:12:42 AM

Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 11, 2020, 08:52:47 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 11, 2020, 07:22:39 AM

I don't see the point in creating a new website without clearing your previous accusations first. It's not completely impossible or anything. For example, look at Best change.

They were mired in controversies initially, but resolved all the issues pretty quickly and are really popular in the forum now.

You guys need to do the same about your entire provably fair fiasco in order to resolve all your issues. After resolving these issues, I am confident you will attract gamblers again op.

We didn't create a new website, we just updated it.

We understand that you did not create a new website but created a new thread but you have not answered the previous accusations which were raised against you ? Do you have any plan to give us your views on them also.

The pf system is working fine, anyway our dev team is going to update it again.

I understand that you have updated the site and it is very likely that now the pf system is working correctly but what about the loss which have been made before. Do you have any plan to compensate the losses of the players ?

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They needed to clarify things here and answer adequately the accusations thrown to them. With the negative trust they have, it would be difficult to gain players from the forum. Because people will see it first and will give bad impression, hence, will not play on their site.

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Quote from: panjul07 on July 11, 2020, 08:06:03 AM

Quote from: boyptc on July 11, 2020, 07:33:47 AM

Is this the old thread?

--> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wixiplayio-is-rewarding-all-ex-luckygamesio-members-with-the-same-level-5250971

Or there is much older than that?

No need to make a new one but if you want to continue this thread, you lock the other thread.

Nope, there was an older one but it gets deleted due to breaking the forum rules.

Ah. Ok, I see. Thanks mate. I understand the situation.

Quote from: Oilacris on July 11, 2020, 05:21:36 PM

If you would like to continue then as others we're suggesting here then its better to clear up those past issues because anything new or been updated would
really be just useless if you dont intend to clear things up first.

@wixi, you have a hint. All just want to see you answer the accusation and clear it.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 11, 2020, 03:13:15 PM

Quote from: Quidat on July 10, 2020, 04:36:08 PM

Basing of on Bpip then that admin account of wixiplay isnt already banned https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?id=2507491 I dont know if op is aware or just simply telling up things just to have reason or simply trying out
not to use that account since it does have negative rating but sadly seeing on his current reputation he does already had some negative feedback too.
They should better arrange nor fixed their previous accusations before tending to relaunch into this market because having some pending problems or issues would really make them look bad.

They will have to do that first if wixiplay is looking for good reputation. It could also affect their trust then most people will surely avoid the op especially if there is a negative trust or there is till unresolved situation in their platform. It's knowledgeable that gambling platform that have issues will surely stay away.

Its up to them if they would just simply ignore on what most people been talking on here and as quidat said that they do have negative rating and as long

it is there then its really hard to trust them up once again.

Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 11, 2020, 08:52:47 AM

We didn't create a new website, we just updated it.

If you would like to continue then as others we're suggesting here then its better to clear up those past issues because anything new or been updated would
really be just useless if you dont intend to clear things up first.

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Quote from: Quidat on July 10, 2020, 04:36:08 PM

Basing of on Bpip then that admin account of wixiplay isnt already banned https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?id=2507491 I dont know if op is aware or just simply telling up things just to have reason or simply trying out
not to use that account since it does have negative rating but sadly seeing on his current reputation he does already had some negative feedback too.
They should better arrange nor fixed their previous accusations before tending to relaunch into this market because having some pending problems or issues would really make them look bad.

They will have to do that first if wixiplay is looking for good reputation. It could also affect their trust then most people will surely avoid the op especially if there is a negative trust or there is till unresolved situation in their platform. It's knowledgeable that gambling platform that have issues will surely stay away.

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Quote from: virasog on July 11, 2020, 10:12:42 AM

Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 11, 2020, 08:52:47 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 11, 2020, 07:22:39 AM

I don't see the point in creating a new website without clearing your previous accusations first. It's not completely impossible or anything. For example, look at Best change.

They were mired in controversies initially, but resolved all the issues pretty quickly and are really popular in the forum now.

You guys need to do the same about your entire provably fair fiasco in order to resolve all your issues. After resolving these issues, I am confident you will attract gamblers again op.

We didn't create a new website, we just updated it.

We understand that you did not create a new website but created a new thread but you have not answered the previous accusations which were raised against you ? Do you have any plan to give us your views on them also.

The pf system is working fine, anyway our dev team is going to update it again.

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Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 11, 2020, 08:52:47 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 11, 2020, 07:22:39 AM

I don't see the point in creating a new website without clearing your previous accusations first. It's not completely impossible or anything. For example, look at Best change.

They were mired in controversies initially, but resolved all the issues pretty quickly and are really popular in the forum now.

You guys need to do the same about your entire provably fair fiasco in order to resolve all your issues. After resolving these issues, I am confident you will attract gamblers again op.

We didn't create a new website, we just updated it.

We understand that you did not create a new website but created a new thread but you have not answered the previous accusations which were raised against you ? Do you have any plan to give us your views on them also.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 11, 2020, 07:22:39 AM

I don't see the point in creating a new website without clearing your previous accusations first. It's not completely impossible or anything. For example, look at Best change.

They were mired in controversies initially, but resolved all the issues pretty quickly and are really popular in the forum now.

You guys need to do the same about your entire provably fair fiasco in order to resolve all your issues. After resolving these issues, I am confident you will attract gamblers again op.

We didn't create a new website, we just updated it.

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Quote from: boyptc on July 11, 2020, 07:33:47 AM

Is this the old thread?

--> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wixiplayio-is-rewarding-all-ex-luckygamesio-members-with-the-same-level-5250971

Or there is much older than that?

No need to make a new one but if you want to continue this thread, you lock the other thread.

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Nope, there was an older one but it gets deleted due to breaking the forum rules.

Quote from: Haunebu on July 11, 2020, 07:22:39 AM

I don't see the point in creating a new website without clearing your previous accusations first.

Wixiplay did not create a new website, this is the only one website from them IMO.
Or do you mean to say "creating a new thread/account" instead of website?
Regarding its red trust, I think it is easy for them to clear it as they can just fix their PF system then ask those who left the red tag to check.
If the PF is fixed already, the red tag will be removed.

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Is this the old thread?

--> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wixiplayio-is-rewarding-all-ex-luckygamesio-members-with-the-same-level-5250971

Or there is much older than that?

No need to make a new one but if you want to continue this thread, you lock the other thread.

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I don't see the point in creating a new website without clearing your previous accusations first. It's not completely impossible or anything. For example, look at Best change.

They were mired in controversies initially, but resolved all the issues pretty quickly and are really popular in the forum now.

You guys need to do the same about your entire provably fair fiasco in order to resolve all your issues. After resolving these issues, I am confident you will attract gamblers again op.

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We made this new thread because the old one got deleted by the forum staff.(it was our mistake)
The old wixiplay account used by the admin got unbanned, since we already made this thread with this account we are not going to switch over to the old account.
We replied to all the accusations made in the past, there are tweets and posts about them on our social media. (Most of them were made with forged proof)
Everything got updated on wixiplay, if you find any bugs feel free to contact us [email protected] .

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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 10, 2020, 04:23:42 PM

Quote from: logfiles on July 10, 2020, 04:11:26 PM

Quote from: WixiPlaySupport on July 09, 2020, 09:40:07 AM

Hey, that account was used by the admin and got banned for the above reasons.

You do realize that you are evading ban by posting outside meta with your Alt account which is not allowed in the forum. This profile will get banned too if mods come across it.

You might need to read the forum rules.

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

That may happen sooner or later if any mods came across with this thread since op did create another thread of the same platform that is promoted. How about they ban appeal their account and see if it will be unbanned. Anyway, it's their fault for not following the forum rules.

Basing of on Bpip then that admin account of wixiplay isnt already banned https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?id=2507491 I dont know if op is aware or just simply telling up things just to have reason or simply trying out
not to use that account since it does have negative rating but sadly seeing on his current reputation he does already had some negative feedback too.
They should better arrange nor fixed their previous accusations before tending to relaunch into this market because having some pending problems or issues would really make them look bad.

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