Topic: How 999dice.com is stealing your coins, and exactly why you won't believe me (Read 41936 times)
July 20, 2021, 02:06:10 PM
Lets try http://999dice.com/?19298425
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January 12, 2021, 06:51:15 PM
And yet nobody want to standup to take action.
Take action about the site which was conducted anonymously with new wallet generated per visitation? The only action we can take from our end is to make newbies aware of the scam activities done on the site which a lot of members of this forum have done already and we can't possibly control what newbies do later cause it difficult to google a site before using it. 
January 12, 2021, 09:57:47 AM
And yet nobody want to standup to take action.
How? 999dice is known as scam gambling site, but how can we take down their site? It has been running more than 5 years IIRC and until now i don't see they will close soon. January 12, 2021, 08:36:42 AM
ofcoure 999dice isnt a non-profit organization
999dice was precisely a scam organization purpose to use the non-profit or 0.1% house edge to attract gamblers so they can steal their coin.it is always bad to gamble with bitcoins
Bad to gamble with Bitcoin or it bad to gamble on the site and you the first person that will make this kind of statement cause every gambling site consider Bitcoin to be good choice. think op has lost a lot of btc at that casino wishing he had them now
A lot of people have lost their funds not only OP alone.And yet nobody want to standup to take action.
January 03, 2021, 05:19:58 PM
It is quite special how big this topic has now become. Why is it still active anyway?
legal action would be the best thing to do, but where do you start? It is not easy to find the right people who can help you with this.
legal action would be the best thing to do, but where do you start? It is not easy to find the right people who can help you with this.
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January 03, 2021, 12:20:13 PM
ofcoure 999dice isnt a non-profit organization
999dice was precisely a scam organization purpose to use the non-profit or 0.1% house edge to attract gamblers so they can steal their coin.it is always bad to gamble with bitcoins
Bad to gamble with Bitcoin or it bad to gamble on the site and you the first person that will make this kind of statement cause every gambling site consider Bitcoin to be good choice. think op has lost a lot of btc at that casino wishing he had them now
A lot of people have lost their funds not only OP alone. January 01, 2021, 06:48:59 PM
Hi
Would u be interested to launch legal action against 999dice.com?
I lost alot of coins there.
pls pm me
OP hasn't been online since Sep 2018, i doubt you would get any reply from him. Why did you playing on 999dice ? Did you never heard any shady behind their simple dice game?Would u be interested to launch legal action against 999dice.com?
I lost alot of coins there.
pls pm me
Nope
there wasn't much report about it back then.
December 31, 2020, 06:49:29 AM
Hi
Would u be interested to launch legal action against 999dice.com?
I lost alot of coins there.
pls pm me
OP hasn't been online since Sep 2018, i doubt you would get any reply from him. Why did you playing on 999dice ? Did you never heard any shady behind their simple dice game? Would u be interested to launch legal action against 999dice.com?
I lost alot of coins there.
pls pm me
December 31, 2020, 06:04:58 AM
Hi
Would u be interested to launch legal action against 999dice.com?
I lost alot of coins there.
pls pm me
Would u be interested to launch legal action against 999dice.com?
I lost alot of coins there.
pls pm me
December 28, 2020, 10:04:54 AM
it is so shocking to see this.
I used to play there and i thought it was my bad luck.
This site changed my life.
i will tell my story when I have time.
can someone verify that owner of 999dice is also known as Jake. (Noah Matisoff)
I used to play there and i thought it was my bad luck.
This site changed my life.
i will tell my story when I have time.
can someone verify that owner of 999dice is also known as Jake. (Noah Matisoff)
April 02, 2019, 06:56:23 PM
TL;DR: 999dice is not provably fair at all, but they hide is so well, you'd never actually know it.
Stupid-long version:
I'd like to start with some background. I'm involved in the crypto community, have been mining and trading bitcoin for a very long time. (Well, very long being a relative term.) I'm a programmer, I enjoy math, and few things give me more joy than figuring out a math/programming puzzle. I've also dabbled with gambling my entire adult life. Not addicted to it by any stretch of the imagination. Losing is frustrating and ruins the joy of it. The joy I get from it is figuring out how it works, and making it work to my advantage. Card counting? Sure, sometimes. That's a bit boring however. Let it Ride is my favorite game to play for fun. Being able to increase your bet (or reduce your losses) depending on how your hand plays out? Oh, that’s fun. (Yes, I'm aware the house edge is about 3.5% or so on Let it Ride, and card counting doesn't do much good, but at a table in a casino, when the other players realize there's an advantage to sharing their hands with each other, that changes the odds a little).
Anyway - I wrote the above just to give a little background on where I'm coming from. Naturally, being a lover of all things crypto, I eventually gravitated towards sites like primedice and satoshidice and not too long ago, 999dice.com caught my attention. .1% house edge? Wow. That’s not bad. And since it's based on cryptography, you can't accuse them of cheating, like I'm sure all the online casinos engage in.
So I sta
Decide for yourselves, but don't be stupid and blatantly trust a site that hides the hash, makes you tell them you're looking, and provides deceptive information for calculating the hash yourself.
Stupid-long version:
I'd like to start with some background. I'm involved in the crypto community, have been mining and trading bitcoin for a very long time. (Well, very long being a relative term.) I'm a programmer, I enjoy math, and few things give me more joy than figuring out a math/programming puzzle. I've also dabbled with gambling my entire adult life. Not addicted to it by any stretch of the imagination. Losing is frustrating and ruins the joy of it. The joy I get from it is figuring out how it works, and making it work to my advantage. Card counting? Sure, sometimes. That's a bit boring however. Let it Ride is my favorite game to play for fun. Being able to increase your bet (or reduce your losses) depending on how your hand plays out? Oh, that’s fun. (Yes, I'm aware the house edge is about 3.5% or so on Let it Ride, and card counting doesn't do much good, but at a table in a casino, when the other players realize there's an advantage to sharing their hands with each other, that changes the odds a little).
Anyway - I wrote the above just to give a little background on where I'm coming from. Naturally, being a lover of all things crypto, I eventually gravitated towards sites like primedice and satoshidice and not too long ago, 999dice.com caught my attention. .1% house edge? Wow. That’s not bad. And since it's based on cryptography, you can't accuse them of cheating, like I'm sure all the online casinos engage in.
So I sta
Decide for yourselves, but don't be stupid and blatantly trust a site that hides the hash, makes you tell them you're looking, and provides deceptive information for calculating the hash yourself.
Was your name "Lyco" on 999dice? I remember seeing your bets.
And you might have been one of my referrals... Is this your stats?
#224234985 Lyco
14.54834995 ETH
1118.09577106 BTC
114326.41837954 Doge
October 17, 2018, 12:15:18 AM
If you know site that's cheating you should post it in scam accusation.
What do you think this thread is? Did you just read the title and not bother looking at the post?I don't know if 999dice is cheating this way, but I think even if they would you could avoid by setting client seed after viewing server seed's hash.
And for some time you don't need to click a button every time to see server seed hash, it's enough to open provably fair tab once.
You clearly did not read the thread. The server seed changes every time. And for some time you don't need to click a button every time to see server seed hash, it's enough to open provably fair tab once.
October 16, 2018, 04:49:44 PM
If you know site that's cheating you should post it in scam accusation.
I don't know if 999dice is cheating this way, but I think even if they would you could avoid by setting client seed after viewing server seed's hash.
And for some time you don't need to click a button every time to see server seed hash, it's enough to open provably fair tab once.
I don't know if 999dice is cheating this way, but I think even if they would you could avoid by setting client seed after viewing server seed's hash.
And for some time you don't need to click a button every time to see server seed hash, it's enough to open provably fair tab once.
October 07, 2018, 10:45:17 PM
I've received requests from people in the past to look into 999dice's provably fair system but I never got around to doing so. I'm sorry now that I didn't.
Withholding the server seed hash until it is explicitly requested is dubious behaviour. It allows the site to cheat on all rolls except those for which the server seed hash has been requested, which will be almost all of them.
Changing the server seed for each individual roll in itself is bad enough, since it requires the user to keep extensive records and also to change their client seed every roll to be sure that they aren't being cheated. Add the hiding of the server seed hash on top of that and you really do have to wonder what's going on. Why would anyone go to such lengths to hamper their provable fairness?
Withholding the server seed hash until it is explicitly requested is dubious behaviour. It allows the site to cheat on all rolls except those for which the server seed hash has been requested, which will be almost all of them.
Changing the server seed for each individual roll in itself is bad enough, since it requires the user to keep extensive records and also to change their client seed every roll to be sure that they aren't being cheated. Add the hiding of the server seed hash on top of that and you really do have to wonder what's going on. Why would anyone go to such lengths to hamper their provable fairness?
is it possible they can reverse code it once you click that button to be sure its "fair" once they know you checked?
like ok we know the roll = "49.50" and his client seed = "jhoitybihiopyiye"
so to get to 49.50 could they do something like this to get the correct sever seed?
49.50(roll) / jhoitybihiopyiye(client seed) = server seed
just taking a stab at it cause i know another site does the same practice
January 18, 2018, 09:26:03 PM
why we lose (even if the site is 100% fair)?
the answer is very simple
we can't create more power from nothing
how?
say that we have the chance of 100% win at the end
if the site takes his edge (say 0.2%) every roll
then the 100% will not still 100% it will decreased till be 0% and we lose all the money at the end
in another words:
say you have 100$
and every play, the site takes 0.2$
every time you play 100 rolls, the site takes 20$, so how you can win at the end ??
if your normal chance was 100, now you have a chance of 80 to win instead of 100
in another words:
say the bet amount is 100$
say the bet chance is 5%
now if we win we will take 1898$
5% means that every 100 rolls i will win only 5 times and lose 95 times
my win=5*1898=9490
my loss=95*100=9500
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what do i need to win???
say we play 50% chance and the edge was 0 (no edge)
and we play martingales
how many loss in row we will take ?
if we play 1024 rolls we can take 11 loss in row
if we play 2048 rolls we can take 12 loss in row
if we play 2147483648 we can take 32 loss in row
if we play infinite we can take infinite loss in row
so we must lose at the end
because our money is limited
and if we have unlimited money, the max bet amount is limited.
and the edge will cut from our chance to win and forward us directly to the loss.
the answer is very simple
we can't create more power from nothing
how?
say that we have the chance of 100% win at the end
if the site takes his edge (say 0.2%) every roll
then the 100% will not still 100% it will decreased till be 0% and we lose all the money at the end
in another words:
say you have 100$
and every play, the site takes 0.2$
every time you play 100 rolls, the site takes 20$, so how you can win at the end ??
if your normal chance was 100, now you have a chance of 80 to win instead of 100
in another words:
say the bet amount is 100$
say the bet chance is 5%
now if we win we will take 1898$
5% means that every 100 rolls i will win only 5 times and lose 95 times
my win=5*1898=9490
my loss=95*100=9500
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
what do i need to win???
say we play 50% chance and the edge was 0 (no edge)
and we play martingales
how many loss in row we will take ?
if we play 1024 rolls we can take 11 loss in row
if we play 2048 rolls we can take 12 loss in row
if we play 2147483648 we can take 32 loss in row
if we play infinite we can take infinite loss in row
so we must lose at the end
because our money is limited
and if we have unlimited money, the max bet amount is limited.
and the edge will cut from our chance to win and forward us directly to the loss.
That is not how house edge works.
But you are right you will always lose in the long run because of the house edge.
January 13, 2018, 09:08:51 PM
Unless you show a log with millions of bets where you can show the bets are rigged you cannot acuse the site of being fraudulent.
Have you read the OP of this very thread you're posting on? If you have then you would realize that the site is a scam and that all of your anecdotal evidence should be taken with a very large grain of salt.The site is NOT provably fair. It's selectively provably fair. Meaning that your bets can and will be rigged... if it's profitable to do so. It wouldn't make sense to exit scam for $40. But for $40,000... sure.
January 13, 2018, 07:44:21 PM
1) I trust the site as I have done millions of rolls, and all rolls seems to fit into common statistic. The three screendumps below sums up tp 3 mill rolls done i the last couple of day and this is what I base my opinion on.
http://elbrandt.com/account1.jpg
http://elbrandt.com/account2.jpg
http://elbrandt.com/account3.jpg
2) as I think the site is 100% fair, I off course recommend the site to other users and then it would be stupid not to include my referral link in the post ( even though the referral commission are peanuts)
They won't scam you for 0.01 DOGE. They'll scam you for way, way more than that. Already addressed this in your thread.http://elbrandt.com/account1.jpg
http://elbrandt.com/account2.jpg
http://elbrandt.com/account3.jpg
2) as I think the site is 100% fair, I off course recommend the site to other users and then it would be stupid not to include my referral link in the post ( even though the referral commission are peanuts)
If you begin to bet with hundreds or thousands of dollars rather than fractions of pennies then maybe you'll see a very noticeable gap in ev.
Unless you show a log with millions of bets where you can show the bets are rigged you cannot acuse the site of being fraudulent.
January 13, 2018, 06:23:37 PM
why we lose (even if the site is 100% fair)?
the answer is very simple -snip-
Yeah. That's how house edge works.the answer is very simple -snip-
But even if there is a statistical loss, gamblers like to take the chance to win. After all, life is full of unfair risks—gambling is no different. In relation to zero house edge, you are expected to approach your original bankroll as you gamble more. If you want this to happen then you would simply bet the minimum at the highest chance and continue betting for eternity. Think of it like betting on black & red at Roulette without any 0's.
But this is all irrelevant because the site isn't fair and they cheat players.
January 13, 2018, 06:16:48 PM
why we lose (even if the site is 100% fair)?
the answer is very simple
we can't create more power from nothing
how?
say that we have the chance of 100% win at the end
if the site takes his edge (say 0.2%) every roll
then the 100% will not still 100% it will decreased till be 0% and we lose all the money at the end
in another words:
say you have 100$
and every play, the site takes 0.2$
every time you play 100 rolls, the site takes 20$, so how you can win at the end ??
if your normal chance was 100, now you have a chance of 80 to win instead of 100
in another words:
say the bet amount is 100$
say the bet chance is 5%
now if we win we will take 1898$
5% means that every 100 rolls i will win only 5 times and lose 95 times
my win=5*1898=9490
my loss=95*100=9500
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
what do i need to win???
say we play 50% chance and the edge was 0 (no edge)
and we play martingales
how many loss in row we will take ?
if we play 1024 rolls we can take 11 loss in row
if we play 2048 rolls we can take 12 loss in row
if we play 2147483648 we can take 32 loss in row
if we play infinite we can take infinite loss in row
so we must lose at the end
because our money is limited
and if we have unlimited money, the max bet amount is limited.
and the edge will cut from our chance to win and forward us directly to the loss.
the answer is very simple
we can't create more power from nothing
how?
say that we have the chance of 100% win at the end
if the site takes his edge (say 0.2%) every roll
then the 100% will not still 100% it will decreased till be 0% and we lose all the money at the end
in another words:
say you have 100$
and every play, the site takes 0.2$
every time you play 100 rolls, the site takes 20$, so how you can win at the end ??
if your normal chance was 100, now you have a chance of 80 to win instead of 100
in another words:
say the bet amount is 100$
say the bet chance is 5%
now if we win we will take 1898$
5% means that every 100 rolls i will win only 5 times and lose 95 times
my win=5*1898=9490
my loss=95*100=9500
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
what do i need to win???
say we play 50% chance and the edge was 0 (no edge)
and we play martingales
how many loss in row we will take ?
if we play 1024 rolls we can take 11 loss in row
if we play 2048 rolls we can take 12 loss in row
if we play 2147483648 we can take 32 loss in row
if we play infinite we can take infinite loss in row
so we must lose at the end
because our money is limited
and if we have unlimited money, the max bet amount is limited.
and the edge will cut from our chance to win and forward us directly to the loss.
January 13, 2018, 04:19:11 PM
1) I trust the site as I have done millions of rolls, and all rolls seems to fit into common statistic. The three screendumps below sums up tp 3 mill rolls done i the last couple of day and this is what I base my opinion on.
http://elbrandt.com/account1.jpg
http://elbrandt.com/account2.jpg
http://elbrandt.com/account3.jpg
2) as I think the site is 100% fair, I off course recommend the site to other users and then it would be stupid not to include my referral link in the post ( even though the referral commission are peanuts)
They won't scam you for 0.01 DOGE. They'll scam you for way, way more than that. Already addressed this in your thread.http://elbrandt.com/account1.jpg
http://elbrandt.com/account2.jpg
http://elbrandt.com/account3.jpg
2) as I think the site is 100% fair, I off course recommend the site to other users and then it would be stupid not to include my referral link in the post ( even though the referral commission are peanuts)
If you begin to bet with hundreds or thousands of dollars rather than fractions of pennies then maybe you'll see a very noticeable gap in ev.
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