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The thing with these type of contests is that you can become even the first if you want (and have the money for it) but does it really worth it? Will you be able to make money out of it? What is your purpose of joining into it and trying to achieve anything? Is it fun? Is it money? Is it the lower house edge due to contest prize? You have to know all of these before you join in.

For example, look at the winner, they gambled 5.16 bitcoins, 1% of that is 0.0516 bitcoins he made that back with the rewards of 0.0453, which means if you gambled just at the house edge levels without losing more than you could break even, yet the second one gambled 2.98 which has a 1% of 0.0298 yet he only got 0.024 which is not enough. It is all comes down to what you want and how lucky you are.

for gamblers the contests like these are not a source of income but a way to increase their chances to win , effectively decreasing the house edge
your math is correct, they didn't make any direct profit from the contest but they were playing with the house on almost equal terms , i.e. the House advantage was nullified because of the prize
so it all depends on how your sessions went , you could have made a decent profit + got the prize
if you plan to make money with it , I don't think it is possible on a regular basis since the variance will get you sooner or later
it takes you to lose your bank once and you will be in the red regardless of the prizes
some people do manage to wager 200x+ of their banks , with 4 btc equals 0.02 btc balance , if you are one of these geniuses , you can try and beat the system Smiley
Well, those people who wager that much with that small amount usually try to do some systems and that doesn't really change too much from the fact that people can't always win, no matter what your system is house edge eventually will get you. You can gamble with 0.02 btc balance and reach to 4 btc wagered but just because you can do it once, twice, thrice, doesn't matter how many times, doesn't mean that you will continue doing it forever, eventually you will end up losing. It is just simple as that.

I sincerely hope that people who wager on these contests only have one purpose which is dropping the house edge on their favor a bit, less than 1% thanks to rewards, if they have any other purpose to gamble for the contest like making money, they are dead wrong because it all depends on luck.
legendary
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The biggest reason for not putting up KYC to casinos is that, other casinos don't have it. How did the exchanges become so big with the KYC all of a sudden? Remember back in the day cryptsy/poloniex/bittrex none of them asked for KYC and there was no problem using the exchanges without giving any data about yourself at all, not even a first name, just a mail and continue trading.

Now, almost all big ones ask for your KYC, why? Because these exchanges are based on first world countries that ask for the KYC and there are laws, on the other side casinos are usually from curacao or Malta or whatever type of countries that people don't really know or heard of or even care, so they can get away with not asking KYC. If one day 3-5 big casinos start asking it, others will start following as well, it all depends on the laws.
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Just noticed the following feature.

For example I have a 0.0003 ETH on a balance and I use a 7-day streak bonus. After clicking collect button, bonus amount was usually automatically added to my balance, i hit MAX and roll. But it doesnt adds automatically (even by clicking MAX), so I have to manually refresh the page, and only then my entire balance changes.

Anyone having same situation as me ? (I'm a Chrome Version 78.0.3904.87 (Official Build) (64-bit) version user if it matters)

So far I have not encountered such a problem, it looks like the problem you are having is with JavaScript not working. Try checking Settings -Site Settings-Javascript and make sure the wolf.bet site isn't on block list. If that still doesn't work try updating chrome to version 78.0.3904.97. And if that still doesn't work, I think wolf.bet will explain the problem.

I also faced such a problem, and did everything you said. It's great! Everything works! P.S. Graphic design me very impressed!
legendary
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Today's results are here Smiley

The thing with these type of contests is that you can become even the first if you want (and have the money for it) but does it really worth it? Will you be able to make money out of it? What is your purpose of joining into it and trying to achieve anything? Is it fun? Is it money? Is it the lower house edge due to contest prize? You have to know all of these before you join in.

For example, look at the winner, they gambled 5.16 bitcoins, 1% of that is 0.0516 bitcoins he made that back with the rewards of 0.0453, which means if you gambled just at the house edge levels without losing more than you could break even, yet the second one gambled 2.98 which has a 1% of 0.0298 yet he only got 0.024 which is not enough. It is all comes down to what you want and how lucky you are.

for gamblers the contests like these are not a source of income but a way to increase their chances to win , effectively decreasing the house edge
your math is correct, they didn't make any direct profit from the contest but they were playing with the house on almost equal terms , i.e. the House advantage was nullified because of the prize
so it all depends on how your sessions went , you could have made a decent profit + got the prize
if you plan to make money with it , I don't think it is possible on a regular basis since the variance will get you sooner or later
it takes you to lose your bank once and you will be in the red regardless of the prizes
some people do manage to wager 200x+ of their banks , with 4 btc equals 0.02 btc balance , if you are one of these geniuses , you can try and beat the system Smiley

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Today's results are here Smiley

The thing with these type of contests is that you can become even the first if you want (and have the money for it) but does it really worth it? Will you be able to make money out of it? What is your purpose of joining into it and trying to achieve anything? Is it fun? Is it money? Is it the lower house edge due to contest prize? You have to know all of these before you join in.

For example, look at the winner, they gambled 5.16 bitcoins, 1% of that is 0.0516 bitcoins he made that back with the rewards of 0.0453, which means if you gambled just at the house edge levels without losing more than you could break even, yet the second one gambled 2.98 which has a 1% of 0.0298 yet he only got 0.024 which is not enough. It is all comes down to what you want and how lucky you are.
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I think @leea means that "most people don't mind KYC, they are just afraid people will do things with their data" in the sense that, "most people don't mind giving their KYC and known as a gambler, being known as a gambler is fine for them, it is the fear of people using it for bad stuff that keeps them from sharing it" which is totally different from people who just don't give it because they don't want to be known as gamblers. Those are two very different reasons for not sharing your data with someone online.
As being said, I agreed with you that most of people who joined crypto don't want to give their data (through KYCs) to untrusted parties. This is the most important thing that people worry about.

Next, for gamblers, most of gamblers don't want to do KYCs (I could be wrong but I don't think so) because they mostly tend to want to be in secret when gambling. As I know of, most of oldest and highest reputable casinos don't require KYCs for using services and withdrawals if they don't see strange things with their users or the withdrawal amount does not abnormal high or they doubt that user want to use their service as free tool to mix their coins.
I think it is a little of both
I agreed with you.

Today's results are here Smiley

I was a participant of the Wolf.bet campaign long time ago, and I still keep observing the growth of your platform. That is amazing to see the casino has kept growing sustainably. Congrats!
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legendary
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These were the amounts wagered from today's top 10  Smiley


I will join in next one it still seems easy to jump in top 30 players

To be on top 30 is indeed not that hard but I do not think it is worth to do since the reward is low compared to the top 10. To be on the top 30 at least the last spot, usually player need to wager around 0.02+ btc and get a reward of 2400 satoshi. If we use the house edge calculation, it will be a big -EV for you if you force your self to wager 0.02btc to get 2000+ satoshi reward. If you have enough funds then why not try to bet on top 10?
legendary
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I will join in next one it still seems easy to jump in top 30 players

Why top30? You need to be among top10 to get some extra reward Smiley

The top 30 gets a reward. The list only shows the top 10. Have got a few times a reward when I wasn't in the top 10.

Just click on that "Show all TOP 30" button down there and the whole leaerboard will be displayed  Wink

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These were the amounts wagered from today's top 10  Smiley


I will join in next one it still seems easy to jump in top 30 players

Why top30? You need to be among top10 to get some extra reward Smiley

The top 30 gets a reward. The list only shows the top 10. Have got a few times a reward when I wasn't in the top 10.
legendary
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These were the amounts wagered from today's top 10  Smiley


I will join in next one it still seems easy to jump in top 30 players

Why top30? You need to be among top10 to get some extra reward Smiley
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I understand whatever the reason would be they may want to stay hidden, yet that doesn't mean that everyone would have to deal with that as well. If you don't want to be known or heard, maybe you shouldn't be listed on the top 10 as well? No one says the hidden feature should leave, but the hidden feature should be disallowing you from entering a competition that the main purpose of is to show people is how much you gambled.

If you want to gamble a lot and be on a list then maybe you should agree that your name should be visible. If not then I am sorry but you should not be eligible to play. Of course, wolf.bet will not make the people who gamble the most be disallowed from the betting because they are the ones that make them money but that is what I think some of us think.

Why? It wont be fair if hidden usernames are not eligible on the contest. It does not make senses at all for me since the hidden feature is like a human right as it is a part of user's privacy

The better question to ask here is why some people think that way in the first place

I mean what are their true motives for claiming that hiding under the "hidden" status should be "outlawed" (if I may say so)? Personally, I don't feel that way at all (read, I'm totally cool with high rollers not wanting to go public), so I can't come up with anything that would explain their incentives through comparison or analogy. So what is actually driving these people? What makes them come up here time and again with the same idea worded differently?

We have already seen quite a few explicit as well as hidden (yeah, sounds like a pun to me) accusations that the casino is cheating, while the "hidden" players are the casino itself. But you needn't be an Einstein to understand that it is a stupid assumption (bordering on slander) as the casino can easily create as many visible accounts as they see appropriate. I mean if they were to cheat (to be explicit, I don't mean they are). Then what is it?
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These were the amounts wagered from today's top 10  Smiley


I will join in next one it still seems easy to jump in top 30 players
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legendary
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I understand whatever the reason would be they may want to stay hidden, yet that doesn't mean that everyone would have to deal with that as well. If you don't want to be known or heard, maybe you shouldn't be listed on the top 10 as well? No one says the hidden feature should leave, but the hidden feature should be disallowing you from entering a competition that the main purpose of is to show people is how much you gambled.

If you want to gamble a lot and be on a list then maybe you should agree that your name should be visible. If not then I am sorry but you should not be eligible to play. Of course, wolf.bet will not make the people who gamble the most be disallowed from the betting because they are the ones that make them money but that is what I think some of us think.

Why? It wont be fair if hidden usernames are not eligible on the contest. It does not make senses at all for me since the hidden feature is like a human right as it is a part of user's privacy.
If wolfbet or any sites do what you are thinking about then those whales who like to use the hidden feature will leave the site and it wont be good for the site.
If a site is going to disqualify hidden usernames on the wagering contest, it would be even better if the site remove the hidden feature and replace those usernames with random IDs (combination of number/letter) which is not clickable but it shows the wagered stats during the contest only.
But still I believe hidden feature is a must nowadays and there is no reasons for the site to disqualify hidden usernames from the contests.

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I understand whatever the reason would be they may want to stay hidden, yet that doesn't mean that everyone would have to deal with that as well. If you don't want to be known or heard, maybe you shouldn't be listed on the top 10 as well? No one says the hidden feature should leave, but the hidden feature should be disallowing you from entering a competition that the main purpose of is to show people is how much you gambled.

If you want to gamble a lot and be on a list then maybe you should agree that your name should be visible. If not then I am sorry but you should not be eligible to play. Of course, wolf.bet will not make the people who gamble the most be disallowed from the betting because they are the ones that make them money but that is what I think some of us think.
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most people don't mind KYC? speak for yourself , I mind and almost all of my friends hate it with passion
it is not only to be afraid that your data will be used in nefarious purposes , it is simply defeating the main principle of crypto - anonymity
if I choose to show my face and reveal my personal info , I could choose dozens of other payment methods
in my opinion most of the casinos are using KYC as a predatory tool to not pay winnings
yes they are legally obliged to collect KYC , AML laws and such , but in reality all these Curacao , Macao etc. casinos are risking - their license revoked 
When one user uses one platform that requires KYC, some scenario will pop up in that user's mind.
- If that user uses documentation of others (relatives such as wife/husband, parents) to do KYC and those relatives don't use crypto exchanges, casinos; sure that user won't care about KYC. It's not yours and the risks for their relatives (just in crypto area) is low too.
- If that user decides to use own documentations to verify KYC; I am sure he/she will care about identities and correspondent potential dangerous risks. I hesitate to join any platform requires KYC and try to avoid such platforms as much as possible. But I know the fact that in the future (maybe near), more regulations will be implemented and KYC will be (somewhat) unavoidable.
I think the contradiction or at least miscommunication rises from the question, "do you not want to give your KYC because you think the people you give it to will do bad things with it, or do you not want to give your KYC to keep your gambling a secret?".

I think @leea means that "most people don't mind KYC, they are just afraid people will do things with their data" in the sense that, "most people don't mind giving their KYC and known as a gambler, being known as a gambler is fine for them, it is the fear of people using it for bad stuff that keeps them from sharing it" which is totally different from people who just don't give it because they don't want to be known as gamblers. Those are two very different reasons for not sharing your data with someone online

I think it is a little of both

But as the saying goes, many a little makes a mickle (or something to that tune). People apparently don't like to be seen and known in the hood and in the world as gamblers while they don't like to have their identities stolen either. Add the two things together, and you will have an almost insane level of hate toward any "KYC/AML-friendly" casino, especially the one which tries to impose these policies on players wanting to withdraw (according to the first-hand reports)
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most people don't mind KYC? speak for yourself , I mind and almost all of my friends hate it with passion
it is not only to be afraid that your data will be used in nefarious purposes , it is simply defeating the main principle of crypto - anonymity
if I choose to show my face and reveal my personal info , I could choose dozens of other payment methods
in my opinion most of the casinos are using KYC as a predatory tool to not pay winnings
yes they are legally obliged to collect KYC , AML laws and such , but in reality all these Curacao , Macao etc. casinos are risking - their license revoked 
When one user uses one platform that requires KYC, some scenario will pop up in that user's mind.
- If that user uses documentation of others (relatives such as wife/husband, parents) to do KYC and those relatives don't use crypto exchanges, casinos; sure that user won't care about KYC. It's not yours and the risks for their relatives (just in crypto area) is low too.
- If that user decides to use own documentations to verify KYC; I am sure he/she will care about identities and correspondent potential dangerous risks. I hesitate to join any platform requires KYC and try to avoid such platforms as much as possible. But I know the fact that in the future (maybe near), more regulations will be implemented and KYC will be (somewhat) unavoidable.
I think the contradiction or at least miscommunication rises from the question, "do you not want to give your KYC because you think the people you give it to will do bad things with it, or do you not want to give your KYC to keep your gambling a secret?".

I think @leea means that "most people don't mind KYC, they are just afraid people will do things with their data" in the sense that, "most people don't mind giving their KYC and known as a gambler, being known as a gambler is fine for them, it is the fear of people using it for bad stuff that keeps them from sharing it" which is totally different from people who just don't give it because they don't want to be known as gamblers. Those are two very different reasons for not sharing your data with someone online.
legendary
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The discussion about hidden username on the contest will have no ends imho because we have our own perspective and opinion about it and it seems there will be no win win solution for it because there are two different sides. First one is those who supports anonymity and second one is those who doubt that those hidden usernames are real players. Lets just stop it as it will have no ends, lets just appreciate each others.
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