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legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
My children are the property of my wife and myself. Why? Guess who made my children.

Dude each time you say something I think "he can't go lower" but yes you can  Grin

What? You don't like the idea of someone owning property? And you are so socialistic that you don't want anyone else to have property, either?

Well, thank you. At least we know where you stand.

Smiley

Sorry I'm in a country where a human being can't be considered as a property xD

That's because your government said so, because they can say it, because you and all the rest of the people over there are their property.

Smiley

Dude... Do you really know what the word property mean? xD

From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/property?s=t:
Quote
property
[prop-er-tee]

noun, plural properties.

1. that which a person owns; the possession or possessions of a particular owner:
They lost all their property in the fire.

2. goods, land, etc., considered as possessions:
The corporation is a means for the common ownership of property.

3. a piece of land or real estate:
property on Main Street.

4. ownership; right of possession, enjoyment, or disposal of anything, especially of something tangible:
to have property in land.

5. something at the disposal of a person, a group of persons, or the community or public:
The secret of the invention became common property.

6. an essential or distinctive attribute or quality of a thing:
the chemical and physical properties of an element.

7. Logic.

    any attribute or characteristic.
    (in Aristotelian logic) an attribute not essential to a species but always connected with it and with it alone.


8. Also called prop. a usually movable item, other than costumes or scenery, used on the set of a theater production, motion picture, etc.; any object handled or used by an actor in a performance.

9. a written work, play, movie, etc., bought or optioned for commercial production or distribution.

10. a person, especially one under contract in entertainment or sports, regarded as having commercial value:
an actor who was a hot property at the time.

I didn't think that the dictionary would call you property of your government, but there it is, in definitions 5 and 10.

Smiley

Well you don't own your child and government doesn't own me even if you don't read correctly  Tongue

While it is true that I don't know about your personal situation, any person who is a citizen of France is own by the French government. The fact that the French government allows a lot of freedom, doesn't change this. French freedom is by French government allowance, not by self-ownership.

The basic law in America is that if the child is under 18, and if there has been no contract made by the parents with government, the child is the property of the parents. It's called common law of the people. If you want to know how it works, and if you want to see that it does work, listen to Karl Lentz on these two audios, which show how he put it into practice, and how all other Americans can as well - http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-39904/TS-676216.mp3 and http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-39904/TS-680970.mp3.

If CPS took your kids, you can get them back, usually in short order by understanding what Karl says in these audios. You own your kids. Nobody else does until they reach what is known as the age of majority. At that age, they own themselves.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
My children are the property of my wife and myself. Why? Guess who made my children.

Dude each time you say something I think "he can't go lower" but yes you can  Grin

What? You don't like the idea of someone owning property? And you are so socialistic that you don't want anyone else to have property, either?

Well, thank you. At least we know where you stand.

Smiley

Sorry I'm in a country where a human being can't be considered as a property xD

That's because your government said so, because they can say it, because you and all the rest of the people over there are their property.

Smiley

Dude... Do you really know what the word property mean? xD

From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/property?s=t:
Quote
property
[prop-er-tee]

noun, plural properties.

1. that which a person owns; the possession or possessions of a particular owner:
They lost all their property in the fire.

2. goods, land, etc., considered as possessions:
The corporation is a means for the common ownership of property.

3. a piece of land or real estate:
property on Main Street.

4. ownership; right of possession, enjoyment, or disposal of anything, especially of something tangible:
to have property in land.

5. something at the disposal of a person, a group of persons, or the community or public:
The secret of the invention became common property.

6. an essential or distinctive attribute or quality of a thing:
the chemical and physical properties of an element.

7. Logic.

    any attribute or characteristic.
    (in Aristotelian logic) an attribute not essential to a species but always connected with it and with it alone.


8. Also called prop. a usually movable item, other than costumes or scenery, used on the set of a theater production, motion picture, etc.; any object handled or used by an actor in a performance.

9. a written work, play, movie, etc., bought or optioned for commercial production or distribution.

10. a person, especially one under contract in entertainment or sports, regarded as having commercial value:
an actor who was a hot property at the time.

I didn't think that the dictionary would call you property of your government, but there it is, in definitions 5 and 10.

Smiley

Well you don't own your child and government doesn't own me even if you don't read correctly  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
My children are the property of my wife and myself. Why? Guess who made my children.

Dude each time you say something I think "he can't go lower" but yes you can  Grin

What? You don't like the idea of someone owning property? And you are so socialistic that you don't want anyone else to have property, either?

Well, thank you. At least we know where you stand.

Smiley

Sorry I'm in a country where a human being can't be considered as a property xD

That's because your government said so, because they can say it, because you and all the rest of the people over there are their property.

Smiley

Dude... Do you really know what the word property mean? xD

From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/property?s=t:
Quote
property
[prop-er-tee]

noun, plural properties.

1. that which a person owns; the possession or possessions of a particular owner:
They lost all their property in the fire.

2. goods, land, etc., considered as possessions:
The corporation is a means for the common ownership of property.

3. a piece of land or real estate:
property on Main Street.

4. ownership; right of possession, enjoyment, or disposal of anything, especially of something tangible:
to have property in land.

5. something at the disposal of a person, a group of persons, or the community or public:
The secret of the invention became common property.

6. an essential or distinctive attribute or quality of a thing:
the chemical and physical properties of an element.

7. Logic.

    any attribute or characteristic.
    (in Aristotelian logic) an attribute not essential to a species but always connected with it and with it alone.


8. Also called prop. a usually movable item, other than costumes or scenery, used on the set of a theater production, motion picture, etc.; any object handled or used by an actor in a performance.

9. a written work, play, movie, etc., bought or optioned for commercial production or distribution.

10. a person, especially one under contract in entertainment or sports, regarded as having commercial value:
an actor who was a hot property at the time.

I didn't think that the dictionary would call you property of your government, but there it is, in definitions 5 and 10.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
My children are the property of my wife and myself. Why? Guess who made my children.

Dude each time you say something I think "he can't go lower" but yes you can  Grin

What? You don't like the idea of someone owning property? And you are so socialistic that you don't want anyone else to have property, either?

Well, thank you. At least we know where you stand.

Smiley

Sorry I'm in a country where a human being can't be considered as a property xD

That's because your government said so, because they can say it, because you and all the rest of the people over there are their property.

Smiley

Dude... Do you really know what the word property mean? xD
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
My children are the property of my wife and myself. Why? Guess who made my children.

Dude each time you say something I think "he can't go lower" but yes you can  Grin

What? You don't like the idea of someone owning property? And you are so socialistic that you don't want anyone else to have property, either?

Well, thank you. At least we know where you stand.

Smiley

Sorry I'm in a country where a human being can't be considered as a property xD

That's because your government said so, because they can say it, because you and all the rest of the people over there are their property.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
My children are the property of my wife and myself. Why? Guess who made my children.

Dude each time you say something I think "he can't go lower" but yes you can  Grin

What? You don't like the idea of someone owning property? And you are so socialistic that you don't want anyone else to have property, either?

Well, thank you. At least we know where you stand.

Smiley

Sorry I'm in a country where a human being can't be considered as a property xD
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
My children are the property of my wife and myself. Why? Guess who made my children.

Dude each time you say something I think "he can't go lower" but yes you can  Grin

What? You don't like the idea of someone owning property? And you are so socialistic that you don't want anyone else to have property, either?

Well, thank you. At least we know where you stand.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
My children are the property of my wife and myself. Why? Guess who made my children.

Dude each time you say something I think "he can't go lower" but yes you can  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
My children are the property of my wife and myself. Why? Guess who made my children. It was myself and my wife. Get you hands off my property. If you won't get your hands off my property, you will be facing me in court where you will state, one way or another, that you have no ownership of my property. Then you will owe me lots of money, according to the demands of my court, for wronging me by regulating that which is proper to me without right or authority.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
Maybe you don't debate like this in the USA, but here when two persons are engaged in a debate, we take care of everything said, which means that the arguments I presented and you just ignored are still important. It's not because you don't want to talk about it that it doesn't exist ^^
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers. Trust me bankers know how to abuse socialism just as well or better than capitalism. You are asking everyone else around you to be "over generous". You are asking them to risk their personal safety, the financial resources drained by the presence of the mass influx of "refugees", and potentially the breakup of the EU Schengen treaty agreement destroying Europe as we know it. All of this so you can protect your precious infallible ideology that will some how magically just workout if we just keep trying it even though history documents the mountains of bodies left behind socialism marxism and communism. The borders can and will be closed. You are too simple minded to realize that was the entire purpose of letting the mass immigration to happen to begin with. Now all of Europe can be locked down by the military and they can start a civil war in Europe! Socialism FTW!

P.S. I don't trust you, trust me.

You're saying that I should let my idealogy go because it's what will kill me. What a nice way of living. I'd rather die proud of what I've fought for.

No we don't want guns. No we don't want liberalism. Keep it in the USA thank you very much. And we will welcome the refugees untill they're proven guilty of any crime.

You keep saying I ask people to be generous, I don't. That's what we call democracy, as long as more than half of the population will support gun control, and the concept of being innocent until proven guilty, it will be applied. It has nothing to do with me personnally.

"You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers."

Because you are not? Do you consider the USA as being protected? Cause there is only few country with less socialism than the USA... And I don't feel like banks do less damage here! In fact the only country protected from bankers is probably Iceland, and that's one hell of socialism country!

P.S. could you at least try to answer correctly? You keep avoiding the subject, if you don't want to debate don't come here...

You don't get it. I am not telling you to give up your ideals. You always immediately fall into a pattern of extremes rather than using logic to examine the situation. You do whatever you want in your own country. You have your ideals, just remember that in the next few years when people start paying the price for your ideals.

You are what Marx called "a useful idiot", some one who is easily lead around by the most base instincts of humanity used to push political and economic agendas. You have whatever beliefs you want. I am sure in your mind you think this is something about racism, but this is just another tactic to guilt your nations people into welcoming its own destruction blindly in the name of "multiculturalism". These "refugees" that are flooding into Europe en mass don't give a fuck about you or your culture. They come from parts of the world that have been at constant war for thousands of years, and you think they will walk on European soil and magically they will become nonviolent? If the people of Europe are unwilling to defend themselves with force, Europe will just be absorbed and disintegrate. I am not telling you how to live, but I am telling you that your reasoning is seriously lacking in logic, and you and your countrymen will pay the price as a result.


You: "you should take care and defend yourself again the flood of migrants who will systematically take down your country and your culture by force"
My ideal: "We should never consider guilty someone until proven guilty, which means after he broke the law"

Your statement automatically makes the assumption that they will. You're based on the fear of being conquered. Which is against everything I believe in. Which means you're asking me to give up on my ideals.

And again you answer only to the part you want to. I'll ask again then:

You always immediately fall into a pattern of extremes rather than using logic to examine the situation.

You mean how you selectively chose which part of my claims you're taking care of? Or how you over interpret everything I say? Maybe you call this logic in the USA that would explain lots of things, but that's not how we call it here ^^

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

You know I can do that to, picking random links in order to avoid answering any question. It won't go very far though.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers. Trust me bankers know how to abuse socialism just as well or better than capitalism. You are asking everyone else around you to be "over generous". You are asking them to risk their personal safety, the financial resources drained by the presence of the mass influx of "refugees", and potentially the breakup of the EU Schengen treaty agreement destroying Europe as we know it. All of this so you can protect your precious infallible ideology that will some how magically just workout if we just keep trying it even though history documents the mountains of bodies left behind socialism marxism and communism. The borders can and will be closed. You are too simple minded to realize that was the entire purpose of letting the mass immigration to happen to begin with. Now all of Europe can be locked down by the military and they can start a civil war in Europe! Socialism FTW!

P.S. I don't trust you, trust me.

You're saying that I should let my idealogy go because it's what will kill me. What a nice way of living. I'd rather die proud of what I've fought for.

No we don't want guns. No we don't want liberalism. Keep it in the USA thank you very much. And we will welcome the refugees untill they're proven guilty of any crime.

You keep saying I ask people to be generous, I don't. That's what we call democracy, as long as more than half of the population will support gun control, and the concept of being innocent until proven guilty, it will be applied. It has nothing to do with me personnally.

"You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers."

Because you are not? Do you consider the USA as being protected? Cause there is only few country with less socialism than the USA... And I don't feel like banks do less damage here! In fact the only country protected from bankers is probably Iceland, and that's one hell of socialism country!

P.S. could you at least try to answer correctly? You keep avoiding the subject, if you don't want to debate don't come here...

You don't get it. I am not telling you to give up your ideals. You always immediately fall into a pattern of extremes rather than using logic to examine the situation. You do whatever you want in your own country. You have your ideals, just remember that in the next few years when people start paying the price for your ideals.

You are what Marx called "a useful idiot", some one who is easily lead around by the most base instincts of humanity used to push political and economic agendas. You have whatever beliefs you want. I am sure in your mind you think this is something about racism, but this is just another tactic to guilt your nations people into welcoming its own destruction blindly in the name of "multiculturalism". These "refugees" that are flooding into Europe en mass don't give a fuck about you or your culture. They come from parts of the world that have been at constant war for thousands of years, and you think they will walk on European soil and magically they will become nonviolent? If the people of Europe are unwilling to defend themselves with force, Europe will just be absorbed and disintegrate. I am not telling you how to live, but I am telling you that your reasoning is seriously lacking in logic, and you and your countrymen will pay the price as a result.


You: "you should take care and defend yourself again the flood of migrants who will systematically take down your country and your culture by force"
My ideal: "We should never consider guilty someone until proven guilty, which means after he broke the law"

Your statement automatically makes the assumption that they will. You're based on the fear of being conquered. Which is against everything I believe in. Which means you're asking me to give up on my ideals.

And again you answer only to the part you want to. I'll ask again then:

You always immediately fall into a pattern of extremes rather than using logic to examine the situation.

You mean how you selectively chose which part of my claims you're taking care of? Or how you over interpret everything I say? Maybe you call this logic in the USA that would explain lots of things, but that's not how we call it here ^^

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
Oh and you also totally let on the side road other things I say but that probably don't suit you, here is a small list as you're always in such a dire need of precision and logic:

I'm not asking everyone else to be over generous, I'm saying we don't have really the choice concerning the migrants. Cause we just can't close the borders. That's not physicaly possible considering the size of European borders in fact.

You keep saying I ask people to be generous, I don't. That's what we call democracy, as long as more than half of the population will support gun control, and the concept of being innocent until proven guilty, it will be applied. It has nothing to do with me personnally.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers. Trust me bankers know how to abuse socialism just as well or better than capitalism. You are asking everyone else around you to be "over generous". You are asking them to risk their personal safety, the financial resources drained by the presence of the mass influx of "refugees", and potentially the breakup of the EU Schengen treaty agreement destroying Europe as we know it. All of this so you can protect your precious infallible ideology that will some how magically just workout if we just keep trying it even though history documents the mountains of bodies left behind socialism marxism and communism. The borders can and will be closed. You are too simple minded to realize that was the entire purpose of letting the mass immigration to happen to begin with. Now all of Europe can be locked down by the military and they can start a civil war in Europe! Socialism FTW!

P.S. I don't trust you, trust me.

You're saying that I should let my idealogy go because it's what will kill me. What a nice way of living. I'd rather die proud of what I've fought for.

No we don't want guns. No we don't want liberalism. Keep it in the USA thank you very much. And we will welcome the refugees untill they're proven guilty of any crime.

You keep saying I ask people to be generous, I don't. That's what we call democracy, as long as more than half of the population will support gun control, and the concept of being innocent until proven guilty, it will be applied. It has nothing to do with me personnally.

"You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers."

Because you are not? Do you consider the USA as being protected? Cause there is only few country with less socialism than the USA... And I don't feel like banks do less damage here! In fact the only country protected from bankers is probably Iceland, and that's one hell of socialism country!

P.S. could you at least try to answer correctly? You keep avoiding the subject, if you don't want to debate don't come here...

You don't get it. I am not telling you to give up your ideals. You always immediately fall into a pattern of extremes rather than using logic to examine the situation. You do whatever you want in your own country. You have your ideals, just remember that in the next few years when people start paying the price for your ideals.

You are what Marx called "a useful idiot", some one who is easily lead around by the most base instincts of humanity used to push political and economic agendas. You have whatever beliefs you want. I am sure in your mind you think this is something about racism, but this is just another tactic to guilt your nations people into welcoming its own destruction blindly in the name of "multiculturalism". These "refugees" that are flooding into Europe en mass don't give a fuck about you or your culture. They come from parts of the world that have been at constant war for thousands of years, and you think they will walk on European soil and magically they will become nonviolent? If the people of Europe are unwilling to defend themselves with force, Europe will just be absorbed and disintegrate. I am not telling you how to live, but I am telling you that your reasoning is seriously lacking in logic, and you and your countrymen will pay the price as a result.


You: "you should take care and defend yourself again the flood of migrants who will systematically take down your country and your culture by force"
My ideal: "We should never consider guilty someone until proven guilty, which means after he broke the law"

Your statement automatically makes the assumption that they will. You're based on the fear of being conquered. Which is against everything I believe in. Which means you're asking me to give up on my ideals.

And again you answer only to the part you want to. I'll ask again then:

You always immediately fall into a pattern of extremes rather than using logic to examine the situation.

You mean how you selectively chose which part of my claims you're taking care of? Or how you over interpret everything I say? Maybe you call this logic in the USA that would explain lots of things, but that's not how we call it here ^^
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers. Trust me bankers know how to abuse socialism just as well or better than capitalism. You are asking everyone else around you to be "over generous". You are asking them to risk their personal safety, the financial resources drained by the presence of the mass influx of "refugees", and potentially the breakup of the EU Schengen treaty agreement destroying Europe as we know it. All of this so you can protect your precious infallible ideology that will some how magically just workout if we just keep trying it even though history documents the mountains of bodies left behind socialism marxism and communism. The borders can and will be closed. You are too simple minded to realize that was the entire purpose of letting the mass immigration to happen to begin with. Now all of Europe can be locked down by the military and they can start a civil war in Europe! Socialism FTW!

P.S. I don't trust you, trust me.

You're saying that I should let my idealogy go because it's what will kill me. What a nice way of living. I'd rather die proud of what I've fought for.

No we don't want guns. No we don't want liberalism. Keep it in the USA thank you very much. And we will welcome the refugees untill they're proven guilty of any crime.

You keep saying I ask people to be generous, I don't. That's what we call democracy, as long as more than half of the population will support gun control, and the concept of being innocent until proven guilty, it will be applied. It has nothing to do with me personnally.

"You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers."

Because you are not? Do you consider the USA as being protected? Cause there is only few country with less socialism than the USA... And I don't feel like banks do less damage here! In fact the only country protected from bankers is probably Iceland, and that's one hell of socialism country!

P.S. could you at least try to answer correctly? You keep avoiding the subject, if you don't want to debate don't come here...

You don't get it. I am not telling you to give up your ideals. You always immediately fall into a pattern of extremes rather than using logic to examine the situation. You do whatever you want in your own country. You have your ideals, just remember that in the next few years when people start paying the price for your ideals.

You are what Marx called "a useful idiot", some one who is easily lead around by the most base instincts of humanity used to push political and economic agendas. You have whatever beliefs you want. I am sure in your mind you think this is something about racism, but this is just another tactic to guilt your nations people into welcoming its own destruction blindly in the name of "multiculturalism". These "refugees" that are flooding into Europe en mass don't give a fuck about you or your culture. They come from parts of the world that have been at constant war for thousands of years, and you think they will walk on European soil and magically they will become nonviolent? If the people of Europe are unwilling to defend themselves with force, Europe will just be absorbed and disintegrate. I am not telling you how to live, but I am telling you that your reasoning is seriously lacking in logic, and you and your countrymen will pay the price as a result.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
The UK government need to
prevent immigrants from
entering the UK immediately!
We MUST close all borders, and
prevent more immigrants
from entering Britain. Foreign
citizens are taking all our
benefits, costing the
government millions! Many of
them are trying to change UK
into a Muslim country! Ohh..

Dude... What you're saying is what most of right-wings government are saying in Europe, but it's just not possible... How do you do that? You put 3 militaries every 200m of borders?
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
I'm reading papers and (as every other day) news about a girl being stabbed and killed by a 15 year old boy in the centre for immigrant kids without parents. Then right below an article about migrants in Austria, where they we're not following the rules of the pool, breaking the inventory and were going into women dressing rooms, and of course the leftist party and socialist are critisizing them... Who's insane here? I was saying this from the start, what to do with them, we kill them and skin them. Dress the cold, feed the hungry.. Joke, It's a joke, but seriously, what's going on with Europe? What do you think, will something happen after Angela Merkel leaves and someone new, with different views replaces her?

Sigh...  Roll Eyes

Ok let's do this again. Seems like the flow of people yelling "wtf is happening in Europe?" will never stop.

1- what do you want to do? Kill/refuse every immigrants coming? (not sarcastically judging you. Real question here)
2- Don't you have the impression that the immigrants are like a very tiny little problem compared to how banks and great capital is fucking us?

Did it ever cross your mind that maybe banks are the ones that caused the wars to begin with, and that the banks are fucking you all via this mass influx of immigration abusing your well intended but misguided socialist ideas as your own downfall? No of course you haven't. Like every Socialist/Marxist, you demand everyone be else be generous with their own resources and risk their own safety to satisfy your own ideals of justice. If the "refugees" are so important to you why don't you invite them into your own home instead of demanding everyone else do so? It is so much easier to just demand everyone else be generous with their collective resources isn't it? It is like being generous without all the pesky personal sacrifices of doing so.

I'm currently saying that banks are the first ennemies... So yes it crossed my mind thank you! Banks are responsible for more or less anything that is currently ruining the ideal of socialism which is, here I agree with you (which is not so common) totally corrupted by our shitty leaders.
I'm not asking everyone else to be over generous, I'm saying we don't have really the choice concerning the migrants. Cause we just can't close the borders. That's not physicaly possible considering the size of European borders in fact.

You over interpret my thoughts I believe... And Marxism has not much to do with generosity but with fairness. Rather different trust me.

You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers. Trust me bankers know how to abuse socialism just as well or better than capitalism. You are asking everyone else around you to be "over generous". You are asking them to risk their personal safety, the financial resources drained by the presence of the mass influx of "refugees", and potentially the breakup of the EU Schengen treaty agreement destroying Europe as we know it. All of this so you can protect your precious infallible ideology that will some how magically just workout if we just keep trying it even though history documents the mountains of bodies left behind socialism marxism and communism. The borders can and will be closed. You are too simple minded to realize that was the entire purpose of letting the mass immigration to happen to begin with. Now all of Europe can be locked down by the military and they can start a civil war in Europe! Socialism FTW!

P.S. I don't trust you, trust me.

You're saying that I should let my idealogy go because it's what will kill me. What a nice way of living. I'd rather die proud of what I've fought for.

No we don't want guns. No we don't want liberalism. Keep it in the USA thank you very much. And we will welcome the refugees untill they're proven guilty of any crime.

You keep saying I ask people to be generous, I don't. That's what we call democracy, as long as more than half of the population will support gun control, and the concept of being innocent until proven guilty, it will be applied. It has nothing to do with me personnally.

"You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers."

Because you are not? Do you consider the USA as being protected? Cause there is only few country with less socialism than the USA... And I don't feel like banks do less damage here! In fact the only country protected from bankers is probably Iceland, and that's one hell of socialism country!

P.S. could you at least try to answer correctly? You keep avoiding the subject, if you don't want to debate don't come here...
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I'm reading papers and (as every other day) news about a girl being stabbed and killed by a 15 year old boy in the centre for immigrant kids without parents. Then right below an article about migrants in Austria, where they we're not following the rules of the pool, breaking the inventory and were going into women dressing rooms, and of course the leftist party and socialist are critisizing them... Who's insane here? I was saying this from the start, what to do with them, we kill them and skin them. Dress the cold, feed the hungry.. Joke, It's a joke, but seriously, what's going on with Europe? What do you think, will something happen after Angela Merkel leaves and someone new, with different views replaces her?

Sigh...  Roll Eyes

Ok let's do this again. Seems like the flow of people yelling "wtf is happening in Europe?" will never stop.

1- what do you want to do? Kill/refuse every immigrants coming? (not sarcastically judging you. Real question here)
2- Don't you have the impression that the immigrants are like a very tiny little problem compared to how banks and great capital is fucking us?

Did it ever cross your mind that maybe banks are the ones that caused the wars to begin with, and that the banks are fucking you all via this mass influx of immigration abusing your well intended but misguided socialist ideas as your own downfall? No of course you haven't. Like every Socialist/Marxist, you demand everyone be else be generous with their own resources and risk their own safety to satisfy your own ideals of justice. If the "refugees" are so important to you why don't you invite them into your own home instead of demanding everyone else do so? It is so much easier to just demand everyone else be generous with their collective resources isn't it? It is like being generous without all the pesky personal sacrifices of doing so.

I'm currently saying that banks are the first ennemies... So yes it crossed my mind thank you! Banks are responsible for more or less anything that is currently ruining the ideal of socialism which is, here I agree with you (which is not so common) totally corrupted by our shitty leaders.
I'm not asking everyone else to be over generous, I'm saying we don't have really the choice concerning the migrants. Cause we just can't close the borders. That's not physicaly possible considering the size of European borders in fact.

You over interpret my thoughts I believe... And Marxism has not much to do with generosity but with fairness. Rather different trust me.

You are so concerned with the protection of your precious ideals of socialism you don't realize your unrelenting blind belief in your ideology is the very thing exposing you and others around you to harm by those bankers. Trust me bankers know how to abuse socialism just as well or better than capitalism. You are asking everyone else around you to be "over generous". You are asking them to risk their personal safety, the financial resources drained by the presence of the mass influx of "refugees", and potentially the breakup of the EU Schengen treaty agreement destroying Europe as we know it. All of this so you can protect your precious infallible ideology that will some how magically just workout if we just keep trying it even though history documents the mountains of bodies left behind socialism marxism and communism. The borders can and will be closed. You are too simple minded to realize that was the entire purpose of letting the mass immigration to happen to begin with. Now all of Europe can be locked down by the military and they can start a civil war in Europe! Socialism FTW!

P.S. I don't trust you, trust me.
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I don't know why everyone think that the crisis in the Middle East, and the immigrants arriving from that part of the world are the sole responsibility of the Europeans. Till now, the United States have accepted less than 10,000 immigrants from Syria. Japan and Saudi Arabia have accepted a total of 3 immigrants each from Syria. Taiwan and South Korea have accepted none.

Someone needs to tell that to the leaders of the European nations then. True, the US has only taken in 10,000, and given the fact that these "asylum seekers" are not being properly screened prior to admittance, I would say that number is about 10,000 too many. The situation is well out of hand with the liberals trying to play the racism card against Republicans who are against allowing them in without proper screening, which is a typical move for liberals. It is just too easy, as has been shown already, for radicalized jihadists to slip into nations easily by claiming to be asylum seekers. Then they just wait until they are called into action, or else set out radicalizing others.
legendary
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I'm reading papers and (as every other day) news about a girl being stabbed and killed by a 15 year old boy in the centre for immigrant kids without parents. Then right below an article about migrants in Austria, where they we're not following the rules of the pool, breaking the inventory and were going into women dressing rooms, and of course the leftist party and socialist are critisizing them... Who's insane here? I was saying this from the start, what to do with them, we kill them and skin them. Dress the cold, feed the hungry.. Joke, It's a joke, but seriously, what's going on with Europe? What do you think, will something happen after Angela Merkel leaves and someone new, with different views replaces her?

Sigh...  Roll Eyes

Ok let's do this again. Seems like the flow of people yelling "wtf is happening in Europe?" will never stop.

1- what do you want to do? Kill/refuse every immigrants coming? (not sarcastically judging you. Real question here)
2- Don't you have the impression that the immigrants are like a very tiny little problem compared to how banks and great capital is fucking us?

1. No, but the identification of migrants. Who doesn't have an ID can't turn around or go to some other country. Letting them flood the Europe like this, without knowing who's who. But the worst part is their culture, they need to be told that they need to adapt to our culture, not for us to adapt to theirs. Sure why not, if you came from the war fucked up country (some of them), you can't refuse/resist and play the racism card...  It was small when it started, now it's something bigger.

2. Seems like the flow of people yelling "omg these capitalistic pigs, they're all bloodsucking jews! Hurting mah people! " will never stop.

1- Well, good news folk, that's already what we're doing... We're already setting them all in camps, but the fact is most of them have no desire to stay in those refugees camps forever so they leave and go around. An asylum seeker has no right to go around in Europe, he must stay in the country he was welcomed in, but if he doesn't care about the law what do you want to do? Re make European borders and watch them?

2- Did I mention the Jews? I mentioned banks, you talked about Jews xD
And You say whatever you want, banks are getting money directly printed by European Central Bank at 1% interest rate then they lend it to countries at rates between 2% and 15% for some countries. I dare you to call this anything but thief! Debt interest is repayment is 45 billions in France! With that money we could have the current social care system capitalists are yelling at, improve our education, give homes to people in the street, jobs to unemployed and we'd still have enough money to integrate correctly immigration!
Oh boy, so if someone does not care about law, he is free to do what he wants? that logic.
The answer is obviously if they break the law, deport them, fine them, imprison them.

Never said they should be free. Never.
You want to imprison them? Stupid, we already don't have enough place in prison, wanna add people just for wandering around? Deportation is not better, it costs a fortune and they'll just come back...

The problem is here, what other solution do you have? Cause everyone is saying we should do something, yes but what?  Wink
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