Women should work equal when they are paid equal.

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Quote from: IIV on September 03, 2021, 08:14:58 AM

I don't know if it's just my office or everywhere. Being a women should not give them a privilege while the male counterparts are working harder for the same pay grade.

If this is the case on your work its not really fair. It would be best to talk to the management and have a complaint to address the issue and enlighten you with the situation. Dont you have a manager to observe your team at work? Because if yes then maybe they're tolerating it.

On the other side dont generalize women, they are working hard too. Thats just your stance because of your experience on your workplace but thats not how it is.

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Massive study reveals few differences between men and women's brains - Study by Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science neuroscientists conduct meta-synthesis of three decades of research

I think the word for much of the content of this thread is neurosexism. Quotes from the link below.

Neurosexism: the myth that men and women have different brains

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The history of sex-difference research is rife with innumeracy, misinterpretation, publication bias, weak statistical power, inadequate controls and worse.

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modern neuroscientists have identified no decisive, category-defining differences between the brains of men and women.

Differences between stereotypical 'male' and 'female' behaviour arise because

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a gendered world will produce a gendered brain

because people's personalities and behaviour are obviously moulded to an extent by the society in which they exist.

Any observation that females are inferior is a condemnation of society. Thankfully things are improving all the time, but obviously, as some of the posts in this thread indicate, we still have quite a distance to go...

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Quote from: Slow death on September 06, 2021, 05:30:13 PM

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seeing and reading the things BADdecker have said before, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually think like that. but this could be a sarcasm.

Quote from: af_newbie on September 06, 2021, 06:18:09 AM

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yeah, it should have been like that. but then again companies are trying to please everyone by saying "we have an extremely diverse employees" and leaves out people that actually deserve the job just because they are not the right color or gender or already have a lot of those color or gender.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 06, 2021, 04:44:13 PM

Women shouldn't get paid when they work. If there is pay involved, it should go to their husband. If they aren't married, the pay should be stored up for their husband if/when they do get married.

Men should have the opportunity to bid on marrying them so that they get support. The bidding will be based on the amount of money they have stored up. A woman with a lot of stored money will get higher bids, which will be combined so the husband who outbids the other men, can take care of the woman and her children if she has any from a previous marriage.

Of course, the bid money goes to the one who marries them, as well as the stored up money. So they should work harder so that the stored up money will be greater, and their new husband who bid the highest will better take cared of them.

They should remember that it is for the good of any children they have with them from a previous marriage.

Not included in this post are all the things that should be taken into account to see why they are not married with children if such is the case.

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EDIT: Women shouldn't have the vote. But any married man should have an additional vote for every wife he has.

This is the kind of guy who wants to sit in front of the TV getting served with food and essential things without working. The kind that will berserk when there's no beer in the fridge. The kind that see's woman as a property.

This kind of guy should never even be entertained by even an inch by any woman.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 06, 2021, 04:44:13 PM

Women shouldn't get paid when they work. If there is pay involved, it should go to their husband. If they aren't married, the pay should be stored up for their husband if/when they do get married.

Men should have the opportunity to bid on marrying them so that they get support. The bidding will be based on the amount of money they have stored up. A woman with a lot of stored money will get higher bids, which will be combined so the husband who outbids the other men, can take care of the woman and her children if she has any from a previous marriage.

Of course, the bid money goes to the one who marries them, as well as the stored up money. So they should work harder so that the stored up money will be greater, and their new husband who bid the highest will better take cared of them.

They should remember that it is for the good of any children they have with them from a previous marriage.

Not included in this post are all the things that should be taken into account to see why they are not married with children if such is the case.

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EDIT: Women shouldn't have the vote. But any married man should have an additional vote for every wife he has.

You said that this kind of society will not make essential progress, because nowadays, the material is rich and the needs are more and more abundant. Men can’t do everything. Many large companies cannot sell well without women’s thinking. Yes, when women stand up, society will truly stand up.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 06, 2021, 04:44:13 PM

Women shouldn't get paid when they work. If there is pay involved, it should go to their husband. If they aren't married, the pay should be stored up for their husband if/when they do get married.

Men should have the opportunity to bid on marrying them so that they get support. The bidding will be based on the amount of money they have stored up. A woman with a lot of stored money will get higher bids, which will be combined so the husband who outbids the other men, can take care of the woman and her children if she has any from a previous marriage.

Of course, the bid money goes to the one who marries them, as well as the stored up money. So they should work harder so that the stored up money will be greater, and their new husband who bid the highest will better take cared of them.

They should remember that it is for the good of any children they have with them from a previous marriage.

Not included in this post are all the things that should be taken into account to see why they are not married with children if such is the case.

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EDIT: Women shouldn't have the vote. But any married man should have an additional vote for every wife he has.

So you think women should not have any rights and are essentially the private property of their husbands or fathers, right?

What you are proposing is essentially a livestock auction for wives.

Hmm, very Biblical way of thinking.

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I honestly am very shocked by this:

Quote from: BADecker on September 06, 2021, 04:44:13 PM

Women shouldn't get paid when they work. If there is pay involved, it should go to their husband. If they aren't married, the pay should be stored up for their husband if/when they do get married.

it is not possible for you to think that way. but ok i'll give you a great example of why you shouldn't think that way:

The couple has 2 children, they have been married for years, the husband works and the wife does not work, one day the husband dies, because the wife does not work the children and the wife begins to live in hell, the children's future is compromised, they become thieves or bitches

It is very important that women work, of course they should be treated as men are treated, no privileges because of sex, everyone should be treated equally and should be evaluated based on competence.

Quote from: BADecker on September 06, 2021, 04:44:13 PM

Men should have the opportunity to bid on marrying them so that they get support. The bidding will be based on the amount of money they have stored up. A woman with a lot of stored money will get higher bids, which will be combined so the husband who outbids the other men, can take care of the woman and her children if she has any from a previous marriage.

Of course, the bid money goes to the one who marries them, as well as the stored up money. So they should work harder so that the stored up money will be greater, and their new husband who bid the highest will better take cared of them.

They should remember that it is for the good of any children they have with them from a previous marriage.

Not included in this post are all the things that should be taken into account to see why they are not married with children if such is the case.

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EDIT: Women shouldn't have the vote. But any married man should have an additional vote for every wife he has.

It's unbelievable...

I am a person who thinks that at work you shouldn't put things like: gender and skin color, everyone should be evaluated based on the performance they are showing and no one should be given special treatment just because of their sex or skin color.

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Women shouldn't get paid when they work. If there is pay involved, it should go to their husband. If they aren't married, the pay should be stored up for their husband if/when they do get married.

Men should have the opportunity to bid on marrying them so that they get support. The bidding will be based on the amount of money they have stored up. A woman with a lot of stored money will get higher bids, which will be combined so the husband who outbids the other men, can take care of the woman and her children if she has any from a previous marriage.

Of course, the bid money goes to the one who marries them, as well as the stored up money. So they should work harder so that the stored up money will be greater, and their new husband who bid the highest will better take cared of them.

They should remember that it is for the good of any children they have with them from a previous marriage.

Not included in this post are all the things that should be taken into account to see why they are not married with children if such is the case.

Cool

EDIT: Women shouldn't have the vote. But any married man should have an additional vote for every wife he has.

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Oh hey, do you want to get called misogynist incel pig? Grin

The women fighting sounds familiar. Reminded me of this article. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html Not sure how true all of it was but sure was funny.

Quote from: af_newbie on September 06, 2021, 06:18:09 AM

Instead, we hire mediocre workers because we want to fill sex or racial quotas. This is wrong.

B-but, we need to make them pay for the centuries of injustice against women and minorities! /s

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Quote from: IIV on September 03, 2021, 08:14:58 AM

I know some women who works better than some men do.

But more than 80% of female colleagues I worked with believe they don't have to take the work related responsibilities and it's fine for them to work less compared to a male colleague.

Our HR even tried to put some female(only) team. They ended up quarreling themselves while the task was badly affected.

Most of us male workers work 9 to 6 without taking a break except a 30 mins launch while female workers take 2 hours for launch where they meet and talk. They even spoil the ones that are serious on their work.

While male counterparts are busy responding to the customers while also preparing documents and spreadsheets on their computer at the same time, women are using officer computers to browse for dresses.

Sorry if I'm ranting but it was a tiring day of work for me while my female colleague giggled past the whole day. Shoved some work to her face yet she failed to complete what I would have done in an hour. We are given specific responsibility as a small team (2 to 4) and there's no way of running from it.

I don't know if it's just my office or everywhere. Being a women should not give them a privilege while the male counterparts are working harder for the same pay grade.

How about we stop comparing people based on sex?

Evaluate the performance of workers. Period. Fire underperforming, reward overperforming.

Leave sex out of it.

Hiring quotas are wrong, regardless of how noble the goal is. Hire the best people.

Instead, we hire mediocre workers because we want to fill sex or racial quotas. This is wrong.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on September 06, 2021, 04:06:12 AM

Lol . You can't compare women to men when it comes to work. Women are known to be weaker vessle

If we are talking about work that is primarily mental in nature, such as all office work, then women are certainly not weaker. Study after study has shown no physical difference in structure between male and female brains. Any assumption that women are weaker at office-based work is just that, an assumption, and without foundation. If it appears that women are weaker because for example men have all the top jobs, then that is simply a consequence of generations of sexism rather than a reflection of innate aptitude.

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Lol . You can't compare women to men when it comes to work. Women are known to be weaker vessle

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on September 03, 2021, 09:04:59 AM

I am not a big fan of feminism, it could have been a good thing should the purpose have been about equity and not more about equality. Equity in the sense that, it deals with natural laws and rights but then, turning it towards equality in sexes in such a way that, it parallels a line is where it becomes a problem. There are some smart women in our world and even on the forum like, I always spot out Lovesmayfamilis on the forum becuase, she stands out and take her work here rather seriously but then, there are other women who believes, when the task is difficult or becomes so demanding, it is a man's job.

How sure are you that Lovesmayfamilis is a woman? That will mean a very very active user if that is true. I sometimes read from 'her' and the posts are nice to read. It shows someone who spend time making posts. Women get pitied in most offices because they are taken to be weak in strength but it will be cheating if this women are paid the same salaries with their men counterparts who do more work.

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What happens in the office where OP works is that there is no supervisor to observe work performance. If all employees of a department earn the same salary regardless of gender. They should be monitored to know their performance, I say it because in my old job my boss knew how much work I had on a daily basis and how long I should do it.
I had limitations to the use of the internet and my personal telephone so that I would not waste time using them.
The lack of performance at work for women is due to those distractions that are not supervised.

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The problem in this one probably lies on the management of the company where you work, and not on the women/men biases.

Quote from: IIV on September 03, 2021, 08:14:58 AM

Being a women should not give them a privilege while the male counterparts are working harder for the same pay grade.

This is pretty similar in my college professor where all the decisions will be decided base on what my female classmates wants. And even give them incentives and additional grades just because their female in a MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DEGREE. Which of course we don't mind cause we are also taking advantage by making them says things which will benefit the whole class.

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Girls are more interested in work than men they are doing much better work side by side with men. Compliance is maintained in the industry for sustainable development those who work there are assured that they can work in a quality environment they are guaranteed all kinds of facilities including salary leave working environment. The same is true of family compliance achieve equal opportunity to live in all cases they will get equal rights and opportunities no one will be biased there will be no dominance in the family .

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It's just you. You know if there's a work related issue that you've been seeing, the first one to approach is your HR. Although I understand the rant that you've brought.
But it's best to approach and talk about this with your HR first so that the one assigned there will bring this up to your bosses. AFAIK, most companies do have the same time allocation during break hours including coffee break and lunch breaks.

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Over 80% of my colleague are female and they work pretty well even more than their male counterparts. Some work for 8 hours with just a 1 hour break, which is divided into 30 minutes in between the 8 hours. So I still believe the saying that what a man can do, a woman can also do it better.

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Quote from: IIV on September 03, 2021, 08:14:58 AM

female colleagues [...] quarreling take 2 hours for launch where they meet and talk [...] spoil the ones that are serious on their work [...] using officer computers to browse for dresses [...] giggled past the whole day

On the face of it, this sounds appallingly sexist, however...

Quote from: IIV on September 03, 2021, 08:14:58 AM

We are given specific responsibility as a small team (2 to 4) and there's no way of running from it.

... However, the problem here might simply be small sample size. If you are saying the women in your team of 2 to 4 are a problem, then it seems likely the problem is the person/people, not the gender. If someone is performing below expected standards, but it's only one or two people, then gender doesn't really come into it. The more specific an example is, the less we should generalise, the less we should take this as representative of the wider population.

Quote from: IIV on September 03, 2021, 08:14:58 AM

I don't know if it's just my office or everywhere. Being a women should not give them a privilege while the male counterparts are working harder for the same pay grade.

Sounds like it's just your office. Where I work, the gender balance is pretty good, and I do believe gender doesn't even come into decisions about promotion, pay, etc. Plenty of directors and other high pay grades are female. Women are just as talented, intelligent, capable as men. And in other instances, just as lazy or thoughtless. There isn't a divide. And you know what? We have actually reached the stage where it doesn't matter and no-one even considers it. But this is certainly not the case everywhere... I've worked places in the past where women worked just as hard as the men, but were often paid at a lower rate, or unfairly overlooked for promotion. Thankfully as a society we are slowly reducing the imbalance.

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