Topic: WON 2000+ LTC on Fortunejack - is Fj broke ? Resolved - page 2. (Read 639 times)

Nothing , not even an email.

It's been a day, do you have any updates if they are able to process your remaining balances and concern?

Even a layman would agree that the points raised by Lutpin are true and valid points, like he pointed out and I'll also agree never seen him saying things he doesn't mean or just to support a signature he's known to spoke his mind and after seeing the cases it's reassuring that the op will be paid but then the value he'll receive as and when he receives is a major scare here. I would consider this a exceptional case as we're not talking of some hundreds but it's 2k ltc FJ should settle this or at least make a proper statement saying this will be ended in -- amount of days.

One issue that doesn't get raised, but should be looked at with delays that long, is volatility and market movements.
Cryptocurrencies are known to both move fast and drastically.
Delaying withdrawals several months could possibly cause considerable financial damage to the player, as they are forced to hold onto their coins a casino is keeping hostage.

If we take the two cases I brought up, this didn't directly happen, as:
3BTC on Oct 26th were $17,664 and on Feb 19th were $31,188  //  5.7BTC in early Oct were $25,194 and on Jan 17th were $63,503
But in both cases, the users were unable to sell any of those coins during the spike in early January (where they would have been worth $59,157 or $112,398),
as FJ made the decision for them to hodl because FJ delayed the requested withdrawals without any reason to.

However, if the timing of these delays had been any different (eg someone requesting a withdrawal in early January and waiting until March/April for it to be processed),
they could have done siginficant financial damage (at least in USD terms, obviously not in [btc terms) to them simply by not processing their withdrawals in an acceptable timeframe.

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I tend to steer clear of threads like this due to my public affiliation with CG. People like to question my intentions/integrity, instead of the points I raise. Probably because the first one is easier to refute than the latter.
What I did (and intended to do) was citing a few past cases that are comparable to this one, in the hope to give OP some peace of mind.

Was told a manager will process my withdraws today. Still nothing, no reply. Ongoing for a week now.

Just wait for those signature campaign defenders to find out this post and defend the site itself. For now there are some words which i dont really agree about. They arent a scam site, there might be some delays but still they do able to handle it out, the main issue on here is the delay on how they do processed out winnings which is different into other sites when a player won then withdrawals processed automatically without any drama and this is the thing FJ dont have.

First think congregations to your big won but sadness is you are unable to withdrawal that amount, I think you already raised the request about this issue but still not solved wait some more time still same issue place opens scam accusations about this issue, few day back I also faced some issue with some other betting site.

I always kept saying that fj is a shit site they have stupid policies that generates lot's of income for the site but when someone wins huge they are just silent and don't want to pay the user. I don't understand why the stupid owner even has green trust, this site is worse than sportsbet.io atleast they pay some people this site never pays anyone

Also anyone noticed no one from the fj signature campaign users have replied, wierd as normally they defend this shit it looks like even they know now that fj is a scam

But normally FJ users are facing issues while withdrawing big amounts but there is no such issues in the other sites so which maybe due to FJ is out of money.But they already mention that this is a procedure to save users from scammers but I don't think this maybe the reason for pending withdrawals.Decreasing the withdrawal limits everyday is may increase the doubt on that site.

Its rare for Lutpin to give his side with this kind of issue but at least he has given the OP at least some hope that he will eventually get his winnings, but it will took a lot of time so the OP needs a lot of patience. I don't think that is a standard time either, we all love to go online gambling because of the supposed anonymity and fast withdrawals. So I think the ball is not of FJ to proved that they are still one of the leaders in this cut throat online gambling but giving the OP his due in no time.

Seeing OP got an email response of withdraws being possible in small batches maybe he needs to lower amount to be processed other than withdrawing everything,but that should not be the issue as they do not have it in their T&Cs and seeing the times others have waited for large withdraws to process I wouldnt go big with such a service provider but just as others have said lets wait for Monday as its a world cup weekend

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I agree there is a standard procedure to check user's bets before releasing funds especially if we are talking about big amount but the standard procedure should be clear. At least give the user an approximate time on how long the process will be done. Based on what we have seen (as posted by Lutpin), they took up to 4 months to process big withdrawal. Is that a standard time? I believe it can be done much more faster,  a month is even too long time for such verification process.

I don't think that they will try to steal your coins. It is just standard operating procedure. When you increase your deposit by 3x, naturally it raises a few eyebrows. They will allow the withdrawal only after confirming that you haven't done any cheating or hacking.

Weird normally we would start seeing all the members who are promoting fj starting to spam this thread and saying that the site is legit, i have withdrawn so many times without any issues and all bullshit
Yes fj was always broke you are surely not the first member on this forum complaining about them not sending your winnings. I'll tell you what happens next they are gonna hold you winnings for next 3 months, ask you kyc and other bullshit and finally when they can't find any way to prove that you are not a scammer they will just say we have noticed some suspicious activity so therefore your winnings will be forfeited

They seems terrible in managing bankroll, allows player to bet big but slow on process the winning, as lutpin mentioned above they have some bad track records by delaying the withdrawal in large scale. Wish this time they pay you not that long time ...
Their security checking procedures seems doesn't makes sense and sometimes didn't transparent. Good luck to you justpoor88

They had ample time to investigate, I play dice at 2x how much time does it take to check my plays?
Their support told me many times that it is a technical issue, wait for email, I get email and they said I’m good to go just withdraw lower amounts. How small like 1 ltc at a time ? Lol come on !

To be frank, FJ is known for taking a long ass unreasonable time to process withdrawals.
They've drawn attention to themselves several times in the past, with accusations about unprocessed withdrawals, them intentionally delaying transactions and stalling.

Eg it took them almost 4 months to eventually process a 3BTC withdrawal earlier this year (from October 2017 to February 2018).
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-paid-me-3-btc-2961440
Similar situation a month earlier, with a ~6BTC withdrawal being paid after a delay of 3 months.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edit-fortunejack-paid-me-after-3-months-2697105

I would assume you'll get your money, eventually. As for how long and how much effort from your end it will take you, no clue.

Meanwhile (and maybe also in the future after your withdrawal(s) have been processed),
I'd suggest to stick to other sites which have a reputation of processing transactions quickly and without much hassle.

I wouldn't say that FJ will be simply broke because you won shit loads of money. Maybe they are just checking everything's is in place before you can withdraw your winnings. They have been in the business for many years that I don't think that they will go bankrupt. Anyways, congrats on your winning, Lady Luck is smiling at you but I wouldn't put stretch it that far mate. We don't know, just enjoy your winnings once you withdraw it from FJ.

It’s sad but I’ve fallen for that, a few times. Today I was frustrated and made some rolls, from 1600+ to almost 100-200 ltc, almost busted, but luckily didn’t and won some more. Many people are bad problem gamblers and I’m sure they play on this.