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Topic: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 95. (Read 624200 times)

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Yes, he wrote that he will offer bare pcb, but since i was in the shop nearly right after the start and it was "sold out" i think he wont will sell them from the start.

But then why list them at the launch under the label "Sold Out".

I think you might be underestimating the buying power of a few select members of this forum. There were a few people on here that purchased full 10,000 chip orders before zefir purchased his first batch, which have already shipped out. They need a lot of PCBs for their chips and I can see even just one of these buyers taking 1,000 boards or more in one order. Paid for in bitcoins of course. Im sure burnin himself will let us know what happened to the PCBs soon.
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i got 30 chips, should i order 10+20 or 10+10+10? is there a downside with either?

The 10 chip version may give you higher overclocks (>450mhz) because there is extra headroom on the regulators (20 chips at 450 is nearing max current of board). It'll probably get lower temps too. But it'll cost more.

Of course its open if you can go much higher at all.

Right, just like overclocking cpus and gpus there's a good bit of luck involved.
legendary
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Just got an email from Burnin answering all my queries about my order. Great service.

Looks like the site may be back up tonight.

Happy customer Smiley

Ordering process

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i got 30 chips, should i order 10+20 or 10+10+10? is there a downside with either?

The 10 chip version may give you higher overclocks (>450mhz) because there is extra headroom on the regulators (20 chips at 450 is nearing max current of board). It'll probably get lower temps too. But it'll cost more.

Of course its open if you can go much higher at all.
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i got 30 chips, should i order 10+20 or 10+10+10? is there a downside with either?

The 10 chip version may give you higher overclocks (>450mhz) because there is extra headroom on the regulators (20 chips at 450 is nearing max current of board). It'll probably get lower temps too. But it'll cost more.

Nice, thank you.
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i got 30 chips, should i order 10+20 or 10+10+10? is there a downside with either?

The 10 chip version may give you higher overclocks (>450mhz) because there is extra headroom on the regulators (20 chips at 450 is nearing max current of board). It'll probably get lower temps too. But it'll cost more.
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And the samples weren't intended for that Wink

Sure they were. The samples were intended for us to do test runs on the assembly of PCBs as well as development of new ones. This would include the assembly only people who are using the avalon gtihub designs as clones. As I stated in my last post, after seeing this final burnin design Im ready to concede that his is about as good as it gets. The full EMC tests he did were the final straw. You can't really compete with that level of professionalism. I'll be honest about this. Most developers would now do well to give up board development and focus on assembly of the three proven designs (Avalon, burnin, Bkk). Having multiple people who can assemble these boards is not a bad thing and should be encouraged. It will help cut down on wait times for everyone. Using leftover sample chips to prove board assembly ability early on is a good use of chips right now.

I believe the bare pcb's were never in stock since burnin makes more money when he assembles the pcb's. And most await assembled boards. I guess the bare pcb's will be available after a timeframe only. At least not before the big rush is over or until he opens his design as open source i guess.
As far as having blank PCBs for sale burnin has always said that they will be available in bulk right away. This can be found in his first post on the first page of this thread. He still makes a good profit on these at 25 Euros each. Its the full open source design that won't be released untill the first miners are shipped. He made this clear in a later post and it sounds fair because he needs a window of exclusivity to recoup development costs and secure a reasonable profit.

My concern was with the fact that when I finally got to see the sales website, the PCBs seem to have been for sale and were already sold out. I was ready to buy. Im hoping burnin could let us know if he will have more of these printed soon and what the time frame on delivery is.

Burnin also was going to offer a built board missing only the chips for an easy semi-diy build (just insert chips, reflow, and go). I did not see this as an option on the website. I was wondering if this will still be offered and at what price.

Yes, he wrote that he will offer bare pcb, but since i was in the shop nearly right after the start and it was "sold out" i think he wont will sell them from the start. So he will sell them, only not from the start. I might be wrong.
As far as i saw he only had these offers: full board, assembled board without heatsink and fans (heatsink can be bought for 10€) and bare pcb which was out of stock. Then there were some other offers with watercooling only.

i got 30 chips, should i order 10+20 or 10+10+10? is there a downside with either?

Clearly the price...
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i got 30 chips, should i order 10+20 or 10+10+10? is there a downside with either?
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Just got an email from Burnin answering all my queries about my order. Great service.

Looks like the site may be back up tonight.

Happy customer Smiley
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And the samples weren't intended for that Wink

Sure they were. The samples were intended for us to do test runs on the assembly of PCBs as well as development of new ones. This would include the assembly only people who are using the avalon gtihub designs as clones. As I stated in my last post, after seeing this final burnin design Im ready to concede that his is about as good as it gets. The full EMC tests he did were the final straw. You can't really compete with that level of professionalism. I'll be honest about this. Most developers would now do well to give up board development and focus on assembly of the three proven designs (Avalon, burnin, Bkk). Having multiple people who can assemble these boards is not a bad thing and should be encouraged. It will help cut down on wait times for everyone. Using leftover sample chips to prove board assembly ability early on is a good use of chips right now.

I believe the bare pcb's were never in stock since burnin makes more money when he assembles the pcb's. And most await assembled boards. I guess the bare pcb's will be available after a timeframe only. At least not before the big rush is over or until he opens his design as open source i guess.
As far as having blank PCBs for sale burnin has always said that they will be available in bulk right away. This can be found in his first post on the first page of this thread. He still makes a good profit on these at 25 Euros each. Its the full open source design that won't be released untill the first miners are shipped. He made this clear in a later post and it sounds fair because he needs a window of exclusivity to recoup development costs and secure a reasonable profit.

My concern was with the fact that when I finally got to see the sales website, the PCBs seem to have been for sale and were already sold out. I was ready to buy. Im hoping burnin could let us know if he will have more of these printed soon and what the time frame on delivery is.

Burnin also was going to offer a built board missing only the chips for an easy semi-diy build (just insert chips, reflow, and go). I did not see this as an option on the website. I was wondering if this will still be offered and at what price.
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I guess there won't be a reopening today?  Cry
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I believe the bare pcb's were never in stock since burnin makes more money when he assembles the pcb's. And most await assembled boards. I guess the bare pcb's will be available after a timeframe only. At least not before the big rush is over or until he opens his design as open source i guess.

And the samples weren't intended for that Wink

Thats right, but if someone ordered enough he can do what he want with them. And, as far as i see, i sent many samples to developers. Enought to test and develop many designs. To be exact:

20   burnin
3   bcdev
5   marto74
4   daemondazz
11   flyonwall
2   szym00
4   innovina
4   hf_developer
4   evilscoop
8   sensei
2   DaGreatRV
2   villex
2   strombom
2   aauer1
3   RamirezX
2   dimka890

Only the devs/assemblers...
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I believe the bare pcb's were never in stock since burnin makes more money when he assembles the pcb's. And most await assembled boards. I guess the bare pcb's will be available after a timeframe only. At least not before the big rush is over or until he opens his design as open source i guess.

And the samples weren't intended for that Wink
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I believe the bare pcb's were never in stock since burnin makes more money when he assembles the pcb's. And most await assembled boards. I guess the bare pcb's will be available after a timeframe only. At least not before the big rush is over or until he opens his design as open source i guess.
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Thanks. I didnt notice it... but thats an important info of course. I mean most will simply enter different batchnumbers and order alltogether and later will wonder why the miners dont come.

Its all good. I know there is a lot of info coming your way. Burnin has this same info posted on his sales page in the FAQ section. I know most people can't access that right now. I only got to look at the site once for about an hour before it went down again.

My problem is Im not ready to choose full assembly yet because I could get this done locally with just the PCBs. Of course, by the time I got on the site the blank PCBs were totally sold out...sigh...

Im hoping that burnin will have more blank PCBs for sale soon. Could we get a time frame? I was wondering if someone who bought them all could sell me just one blank board so I could do a test assembly here. I have quite a few sample chips in hand so I can make a board as soon as I have the PCB and components in hand.

Im also working on my own PCB board design, but with the good work burnin has done here I am almost ready to give up and use his design now. This board would be hard to improve on. Good work burnin, you put me out of busniess  Wink
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@burnin... how to order when i want my miner shipped when they are ready? For example i have chips in zefir's GB batch 1 and batch 5. I wanted to order miners for both batches in one order, but that probably means to pay one shipping cost only. Does this mean then that you ship the miner only when the miners from batch 5 are ready too? Or do you ship 2 shipments. One for the miners from batch 1 and the second for batch 5 miners?
Of course i want to get the miners as soon as possible but if you send them in parts anyway i dont want to pay shipping cost more often than needed. So whats the best way to do this?

I posted the answer to your question a little while ago. You responded to the post so I know you read it. I will repost this bit so you can see the quotes from burnin himself again.
And if your chips are in seprate batches...

I wait until all chips needed for an order are present.
If you want per batch shipping do separate orders for each batch.

Thanks. I didnt notice it... but thats an important info of course. I mean most will simply enter different batchnumbers and order alltogether and later will wonder why the miners dont come.
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@burnin... how to order when i want my miner shipped when they are ready? For example i have chips in zefir's GB batch 1 and batch 5. I wanted to order miners for both batches in one order, but that probably means to pay one shipping cost only. Does this mean then that you ship the miner only when the miners from batch 5 are ready too? Or do you ship 2 shipments. One for the miners from batch 1 and the second for batch 5 miners?
Of course i want to get the miners as soon as possible but if you send them in parts anyway i dont want to pay shipping cost more often than needed. So whats the best way to do this?

I posted the answer to your question a little while ago. You responded to the post so I know you read it. I will repost this bit so you can see the quotes from burnin himself again.
And if your chips are in seprate batches...

I wait until all chips needed for an order are present.
If you want per batch shipping do separate orders for each batch.
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@burnin:

Is it a problem that I pay by wire transfer when I know batch #5 has been shipped to Zefir? And do I keep my ordernumber then?
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I think Burnin will announce reopening through his newsletter again.

I was able to place an order for the first BitBurners with chips from zefir and I already paid through wire transfer.

Now I need to place the order with chips from Sebastians group buy.

I think the main thing is still that Avalon has begun to deliver the chips.
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Hasta la Bitcoin siempre!
Menig, could you please be so kind to write an eMail, when the order page works again.

The is weather so nice today Roll Eyes and I dont want to check the thread whenever some posts something new.
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