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December 15, 2024, 04:52:27 PM
By doing this, you prioritize employees' satisfaction and well-being. This is why people don't leave jobs, they leave toxic work environments. When you make people feel comfortable and loved, they will stay, and it will increase productivity and mutual respect.

Closing offices during holidays for like two weeks might affect business revenue, but how much?

You've been working from January to December, you should have sustainable investments and is it worth making employees miss out on time with their families and friends? I don't think so.

But what do you think about making someone's work mandatory during holidays?

It doesn't make sense if Christians are going for holidays, other believers to be working their ass off, they all should go together and have time with their families. I don't know for other people, holidays are most often 2 days that's enough for any man that want to spend quality time with their family and after then everyone can come back. A times, even the workers do hangout during the festive period, it wouldn't make sense if two workers of different beliefs can't see each with such work policy.

There is no soft life in running a business, the days you work is how some business makes money, closing 2 weeks is too early but then it depend on the nature of your job. You don't expect a medical doctor to close 2 weeks before the festive period, who is going to take care of the patients, who is going to attend to emergency. Just so you know, there are instances people get emergency of their work even when they on holidays, that's why I say the nature of your job is very important for this discussion.
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December 15, 2024, 04:37:42 PM
If employees aren't getting paid during the holidays and over time, it's easy. Go and complain to the ethics board and committee or whatever it is called in your country. There are labor codes that can be applied for that and for sure employers don't want to face such penalties when their employees complain about such. That's why if they're being asked to work on holidays and it's also part of the job that the employee accepted, just work and take all of those benefits. I've been there when I did worked for some companies before and I always got paid for my service and even got some bonus and giveaways from them.

In any country there are always agencies and labor laws to protect workers but to be able to complain and be protected by law. First, you need to make sure that you are complying with the company's regulations and the employment contract between you and the company. Sometimes some companies quietly remove the holiday bonus rule, but most workers do not read the labor contract carefully before signing. If we fall into this situation, do not expect to be protected by any agency.
As an employee, we won't complain if we know from ourselves that we violate some labor codes or company rules that are being implemented. It won't make sense to complain if from within you are a violating employee. That's why even before signing contracts, it's best to ask and review it so that you know what you are signing and you won't have any troubles if it's about holiday policies and required day to duty.

But that's is a civil rights achievement that has not been achieved around the world. I sense that the worlds where tabas and Iranus live are very different from each other.
Hehe, you're right. Most companies do have different takes with this matter and that's why if someone here is working with a good company and gives work-life balance and incentives to their employees, you're in the right company.
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December 15, 2024, 11:20:06 AM
Closing offices during holidays for like two weeks might affect business revenue, but how much?
It really depends on the regular income that the company gets and maybe for a big company closing for two weeks will be enough to cause losses for the company. Almost no company does this because the employee's holiday schedule is determined and there is no such thing as closing for two weeks just for the sake of a holiday.

You've been working from January to December, you should have sustainable investments and is it worth making employees miss out on time with their families and friends? I don't think so.

But what do you think about making someone's work mandatory during holidays?
If you are not ready with the company's rules then you should not work in that company and what must be understood is that the company has its own management in managing the company and it cannot be run according to the wishes of the workers. This is not about whether or not it is right to make employees miss out on time with their families, but rather how the company can continue to produce to ensure that its business runs well because two weeks is a long enough holiday for the company.

The company gives leave to employees, it is up to the workers to use the time given to spend with their families and I think whether it is appropriate or not is not judged by what you say. If we really don't like the work system of the company then quit and find a job that suits our wishes.
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December 15, 2024, 07:44:35 AM
If employees aren't getting paid during the holidays and over time, it's easy. Go and complain to the ethics board and committee or whatever it is called in your country. There are labor codes that can be applied for that and for sure employers don't want to face such penalties when their employees complain about such. That's why if they're being asked to work on holidays and it's also part of the job that the employee accepted, just work and take all of those benefits. I've been there when I did worked for some companies before and I always got paid for my service and even got some bonus and giveaways from them.

In any country there are always agencies and labor laws to protect workers but to be able to complain and be protected by law. First, you need to make sure that you are complying with the company's regulations and the employment contract between you and the company. Sometimes some companies quietly remove the holiday bonus rule, but most workers do not read the labor contract carefully before signing. If we fall into this situation, do not expect to be protected by any agency.

In many countries there is a legal minimum unavailable below which you cannot enforce your business policies and, in addition to them, each professional activity has its own collective agreement that improves these essential minimums. You simply cannot omit it from your contract models because abusive clauses would be illegal regardless of whether the worker consents and signs them.

But that's is a civil rights achievement that has not been achieved around the world. I sense that the worlds where tabas and Iranus live are very different from each other.
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December 15, 2024, 05:33:19 AM
If employees aren't getting paid during the holidays and over time, it's easy. Go and complain to the ethics board and committee or whatever it is called in your country. There are labor codes that can be applied for that and for sure employers don't want to face such penalties when their employees complain about such. That's why if they're being asked to work on holidays and it's also part of the job that the employee accepted, just work and take all of those benefits. I've been there when I did worked for some companies before and I always got paid for my service and even got some bonus and giveaways from them.

In any country there are always agencies and labor laws to protect workers but to be able to complain and be protected by law. First, you need to make sure that you are complying with the company's regulations and the employment contract between you and the company. Sometimes some companies quietly remove the holiday bonus rule, but most workers do not read the labor contract carefully before signing. If we fall into this situation, do not expect to be protected by any agency.

Additionally, filing a complaint with the labor law agency may help you get justice, but then you will definitely no longer have the opportunity to work at that company. This is something many workers are considering, especially in the current difficult economic climate when finding a better job than their current one is very difficult.

The only solution is that we should clarify these things before officially working at any company.
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December 15, 2024, 05:18:56 AM
Some offices give employees time off during holidays, but others don't. Some even make employees come to work on Christmas Day or during other festive seasons.


Well every sectors have their different ways on how they operate and if you can fit in or blend in to their demands you quit, mostly they make this known to you prior to when you start and alongside when you feel you need a break you can as well apply to your management and if you're granted permission that's fine, but it's not mandatory on most sectors as they undergo shift during this period a times.
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December 15, 2024, 04:03:03 AM
If its a properly observed national holiday like xmas day in most countries then it should be far less traffic on such days.  Yet the company is obligated to provide a service perhaps for coverage and in case of emergency but your odds of having to work even 1/10th of a normal work load should be good in your favor.

Its not ideal if you are not given the choice but I always liked the idea of getting paid more for a holiday paid day and doing hopefully less work.  It seems this is not the case in some countries and they are damned, not paid more not doing an easy shift and generally mistreated and I truely appreciate the difference; many workers are not free in any way and without correct rights sad but true.
I agree that when there is no choice and the company "forces" its employees to continue working on holidays, then it is the same as taking away the rights of the employees. But if given a choice and will also be paid more when willing to come to work, then in my opinion it is still good, because indirectly employees can choose and it becomes their decision entirely.
However, it will be a different story when from the beginning we work in a company that requires us to continue working on holidays or it is already bound by contract. Because some jobs are like that, when holidays arrive they are the busiest, such as in the service sector or others. Because usually they will take a day off at normal times or weekdays.
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December 15, 2024, 01:30:04 AM
This is also a way to promote diversity in the workplace. If Christians take Christmas off, Muslims and Hindus can work, and then when Muslims take Eid off, Christians and Hindus can work. This way, you can regulate your workforce and give employees the freedom to celebrate their holidays.

By doing this, you prioritize employees' satisfaction and well-being. This is why people don't leave jobs, they leave toxic work environments. When you make people feel comfortable and loved, they will stay, and it will increase productivity and mutual respect.

It's a crime to work during the holidays when your jobs isn't that, that has to be active during the holidays. There are some jobs that are always needed although the year.

Jobs that has to do with our health (nurse and doctors) can't take the holidays off but your idea of having people from different religions having their time to celebrate their own holidays while others cover for them is actually a very interesting concept that can help rotate the work between colleagues and we'll always have workers present.

Holiday works shouldn't be mandatory but optional as there are people that don't like celebrating any holidays but are just work freak, this set of people can work during the holidays to keep the business afloat.
Also while others want to take off from holidays and just spend time with their loved ones, others may also become eager working during holidays especially that there is higher rate if you work on holidays. So at least those who still want to make more money could be given chances while those who's not, they are free not to go to work and take their holiday off.
Each person is really that different when it comes to financial situation on which there are those who do need more money even if it means on trying to deal up with some extra work and there are ones who doesnt really like and they do want to have more time with their family. In speaking about practicality then the more work the better but as long you are getting paid and well compensated then i dont see any issues or problem with this. If its something optional and you dont want to work then you can always pass it up into someone which need it the most. There are always those people who will be gladly on taking up overtimes specially if its that paid up per hour and more than with that basic day wage. Not all though companies paying up overtime on which not all the time it will be worth of your extra time but since there are no other choices then those workers do work even if its against their will because the dont have other options or else then they will be losing up that job. This is where there are several factors on where a certain employee be on such condition on which they do have some choice or not, which not all companies will really be the same when it comes or talks about over time on which its neither getting paid or not and mandatory.
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December 14, 2024, 06:59:29 PM
If its a properly observed national holiday like xmas day in most countries then it should be far less traffic on such days.  Yet the company is obligated to provide a service perhaps for coverage and in case of emergency but your odds of having to work even 1/10th of a normal work load should be good in your favor.

Its not ideal if you are not given the choice but I always liked the idea of getting paid more for a holiday paid day and doing hopefully less work.  It seems this is not the case in some countries and they are damned, not paid more not doing an easy shift and generally mistreated and I truely appreciate the difference; many workers are not free in any way and without correct rights sad but true.
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December 14, 2024, 06:38:26 PM
This is also a way to promote diversity in the workplace. If Christians take Christmas off, Muslims and Hindus can work, and then when Muslims take Eid off, Christians and Hindus can work. This way, you can regulate your workforce and give employees the freedom to celebrate their holidays.

By doing this, you prioritize employees' satisfaction and well-being. This is why people don't leave jobs, they leave toxic work environments. When you make people feel comfortable and loved, they will stay, and it will increase productivity and mutual respect.

It's a crime to work during the holidays when your jobs isn't that, that has to be active during the holidays. There are some jobs that are always needed although the year.

Jobs that has to do with our health (nurse and doctors) can't take the holidays off but your idea of having people from different religions having their time to celebrate their own holidays while others cover for them is actually a very interesting concept that can help rotate the work between colleagues and we'll always have workers present.

Holiday works shouldn't be mandatory but optional as there are people that don't like celebrating any holidays but are just work freak, this set of people can work during the holidays to keep the business afloat.
Also while others want to take off from holidays and just spend time with their loved ones, others may also become eager working during holidays especially that there is higher rate if you work on holidays. So at least those who still want to make more money could be given chances while those who's not, they are free not to go to work and take their holiday off.
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December 14, 2024, 05:22:07 PM
But what do you think about making someone's work mandatory during holidays?
If a person is force to work on a holiday in a workplace, then I also consider this a kind of crime. Because the holiday is basically the employee's own. He will complete his personal work on this holiday. Some will give time to his family. Many may also consult a doctor for advice on their health issues. That is why I do not agree with making them force to work on holidays. Everyone should be given the opportunity to be independent on holidays.

If someone forces worker to work on holidays, he may be able to get work done directly, but in reality he will not benefit from those employees in the long run. Those employees will not be able to bring good attention to work. That is why good support cannot be expected from the employees there. An employee must be kept healthy, strong and mentally well, of course, he should be prevented from working on holidays.

Not everyone in an organization follows the same religion, so if they are shifted, the organization will not be closed and the employees will also be able to enjoy their holidays. If there is a production-oriented organization, then if the employees are well-retained, the production will also be higher. Here, the owners will also benefit.
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December 14, 2024, 04:52:26 PM
This is also a way to promote diversity in the workplace. If Christians take Christmas off, Muslims and Hindus can work, and then when Muslims take Eid off, Christians and Hindus can work. This way, you can regulate your workforce and give employees the freedom to celebrate their holidays.

By doing this, you prioritize employees' satisfaction and well-being. This is why people don't leave jobs, they leave toxic work environments. When you make people feel comfortable and loved, they will stay, and it will increase productivity and mutual respect.

It's a crime to work during the holidays when your jobs isn't that, that has to be active during the holidays. There are some jobs that are always needed although the year.

Jobs that has to do with our health (nurse and doctors) can't take the holidays off but your idea of having people from different religions having their time to celebrate their own holidays while others cover for them is actually a very interesting concept that can help rotate the work between colleagues and we'll always have workers present.

Holiday works shouldn't be mandatory but optional as there are people that don't like celebrating any holidays but are just work freak, this set of people can work during the holidays to keep the business afloat.
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December 14, 2024, 04:26:45 PM
There’s definitely another perspective to consider. While holidays should ideally be a time for rest and family, not every business can afford to shut down, especially industries like healthcare, hospitality, or retail. For these companies, having employees work during holidays might be a necessity to keep things running.

I feel like holidays looks more interesting when things were a little cheaper and better but now there economic crisis every were and it is affecting how people live so people do more of work this days than to rest because everyone is trying to beat what ever challenges they are facing, people are also watching the money they will spend when they are on holiday and who is going to pay for all they have spent, and most of this industry don't go on holiday because of the nature of the service they render.

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That said, a good balance is key. It should be voluntary whenever possible, with incentives like extra pay or perks for those who choose to work. Treating workers with respect and giving them choices will always create a better, more loyal team, even in industries where holiday work is unavoidable.

Balancing work and pleasure is very important and we won't have a choice than to take rest and know when to resume work, and there are people that even during holiday they will still want to work that is there own way of life they have there reason because if they don't work they feel feeding will become more difficult so maintaining balance is important.

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December 14, 2024, 04:17:50 PM
In as much as I agree with the idea because it gives family the time to gather and celebrate, I don’t think implementing this law will help in any way rather it might affect the organization or business. Op made mention of business but, didn’t specify the business for example during festive season family love visiting pleasant park, eatery etc. in such situation no doubt they make the most money now from January till December as stated above, dividing the work days for Christians and Muslims whenever there’s a celebration sounds weird definitely if the work falls in such category it’s difficult taking a break except the employee applied for a leave.
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December 14, 2024, 03:31:30 PM

People do usually take up job offers without hesitation because finding out a job nowadays is really that hard and at the moment you do get hired or get an offer then you wont really be hesitating on accepting it no matter what the terms will be even if it means on working on holidays and this is the sad reality that we do have now. As long it will really be paid and there are some compensation then i dont really see any problems with this.
That's right, so when they are already working rather than having to deal with work then it is certain that they will do whatever it takes to keep the job they currently have even if it means giving up precious time when there are some important days that we cannot attend because we have to work during the holidays.
This is something that is indeed basic and for me it is an attitude of professionalism considering that in this case it is not wrong when we expect me time with family when some big days occur or when the weekend but on the one hand when we are already bound by a contract with work then obviously there must be something sacrificed when the time is the same especially not every momentum is the same and we can also still gather with the family when the work we have is finished.

Not that this puts aside other things for work but when we are already bound by a contract then inevitably we have to do in order to maintain our professionalism in doing something.

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December 14, 2024, 03:11:27 PM
If employees aren't getting paid during the holidays and over time, it's easy. Go and complain to the ethics board and committee or whatever it is called in your country. There are labor codes that can be applied for that and for sure employers don't want to face such penalties when their employees complain about such. That's why if they're being asked to work on holidays and it's also part of the job that the employee accepted, just work and take all of those benefits. I've been there when I did worked for some companies before and I always got paid for my service and even got some bonus and giveaways from them.
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December 14, 2024, 02:18:44 PM

Why don't they give incentives to employees who work on holidays? This way, they won't hold a grudge that they won't be spending their days as usual. Holidays are special days, so they should at least feel special while they work.

It's supposed to be a mutual benefit for employers and employees. If this is not a good deal for them, then why should they work for a company that does care for them? The only reason companies thrive is because of them, too. It's simple to figure out.

I definitely prefer this, just give holidays to employee as it is but also give them the option to keep working in exchange for incentivization.
the company still need to run to be able to pay off the employees, if there's significant reduction on working days, I doubt the company can still stay in the competition and as a result, massive lay off.

we're facing reality where everything is trying to be better than us, same thing with corporation scene, although partly I also believe this full 9-5 work become this stressful partly because the executive always have the urge to constantly chase after higher profit every year as their target.
Totally depends on a certain company because not all will really be giving out that kind of option into their employee on which at the moment that you've been accepted on a job then it will really be stated on the contract or agreement that you will be having some work or duties on holiday season and it will really be that up to you whether you do accept it out or not. It will really be just that too impossible that you cant be able to read up those terms stated on the moment that you are trying out to sign a contract.If you dont like those terms then you can easily reject out such offer and stopping it and finding for another one. It will really be that good if it will be stated that having duty will really be that optional or you can make out some choice but if not then it will then you dont have no choice but to deal with it.

People do usually take up job offers without hesitation because finding out a job nowadays is really that hard and at the moment you do get hired or get an offer then you wont really be hesitating on accepting it no matter what the terms will be even if it means on working on holidays and this is the sad reality that we do have now. As long it will really be paid and there are some compensation then i dont really see any problems with this.
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December 14, 2024, 06:53:13 AM

For me, I don't think it's fair to make an employee work during holidays. I think it should be voluntary - if you want to come to work, you can, but if you don't, you can stay home and celebrate with your family and friends.

Giving employees official holidays during their festive seasons should be part of their benefit package.

It's unfair for employers to require employees to work on holidays and weekends, as this violates mutually agreed-upon terms. Employers must respect their employees' boundaries, they should recognize that workers are not slaves, but humans and they deserve to be respected.

Employees work hard to provide for their families, but financial support is not the only aspect of family well-being. Families also need care, attention, and quality time. Therefore, employers should allow employees to take holidays and weekends off to spend with their loved ones.

Prioritizing family is essential, and employers should respect this aspect of their employees' lives.
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December 14, 2024, 01:11:22 AM
There’s definitely another perspective to consider. While holidays should ideally be a time for rest and family, not every business can afford to shut down, especially industries like healthcare, hospitality, or retail. For these companies, having employees work during holidays might be a necessity to keep things running.

That said, a good balance is key. It should be voluntary whenever possible, with incentives like extra pay or perks for those who choose to work. Treating workers with respect and giving them choices will always create a better, more loyal team, even in industries where holiday work is unavoidable.
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December 13, 2024, 11:24:47 PM
There are "some" jobs where the worker has to work, obviously not all jobs require it, some still work when it is not required like I have seen some McDonald's open at Christmas, that's not required, and that's because of greed by owners, I agree on that, but some like hospitals needs to be open, it's a must.
True, that's why people who work in that jobs are considered to be wage slaves. They don't have time for themselves, they get paid less while they have gave a lot effort.

If he is not satisfied with the company policy, he can quit, no one is forcing him to stay and continue working.

I don't deny that there is always injustice towards lower level positions in any company or field. But life is like that, if he can't sacrifice, can't tolerate the little things and always want fairness, he will never have a chance to advance or become a boss.
Of course they can quit at anytime, but once they quit, the job vacation opened only for lower positions, hence most people end up to life from paycheck to paycheck because they always get unfairness.

If employees receive fair remuneration and the company's bosses understand them, The company's employees will work very well, and the company will move forward very well.
There's no guarantee if you give high salary and many facilities to your employees, they will work very well. Most employees will try to find a way in order to work as minimum as they can and get paid the same amount.
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