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December 13, 2024, 10:36:30 PM

Why don't they give incentives to employees who work on holidays? This way, they won't hold a grudge that they won't be spending their days as usual. Holidays are special days, so they should at least feel special while they work.

It's supposed to be a mutual benefit for employers and employees. If this is not a good deal for them, then why should they work for a company that does care for them? The only reason companies thrive is because of them, too. It's simple to figure out.

I definitely prefer this, just give holidays to employee as it is but also give them the option to keep working in exchange for incentivization.
the company still need to run to be able to pay off the employees, if there's significant reduction on working days, I doubt the company can still stay in the competition and as a result, massive lay off.

we're facing reality where everything is trying to be better than us, same thing with corporation scene, although partly I also believe this full 9-5 work become this stressful partly because the executive always have the urge to constantly chase after higher profit every year as their target.
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December 13, 2024, 02:18:40 PM
I bet if you own a business that provides such emergency or essential services, you would also force or try to negotiate with your employees to stay at work on the holiday. Or even you, as the boss will have to work on holidays, let alone your employees because it is your job and responsibility.
Different role, different responsibility.

As a boss, he will get all the exposure, all the profit, reputation etc, he also the one who choose to be businessman who willing to work for 24/7, so there's nothing wrong if the boss need to work everyday.

While an employee, he didn't get the credit after working hard, not paid enough, didn't get any reputation. I don't see anything wrong for employee who just work to fulfill the minimum requirement.
I would say it's the payment that is accepted at the start of the agreement, so it's the worker's responsibility as well. So let's assume a hospital, you think hospitals have zero sick people in it during Christmas? Well, most business' out there are closed during Christmas, some are open to make more money of course, but there are many that doesn't work, or any other type of holiday where they are closed basically, can hospital do the same? But, hospitals have owners? Managers, some CEO, while also having workers.

Can we say that Owner has the responsibility and role that requires him to work that day, while the nurse doesn't have to work? Or the doctor? So the owner should just give you injection? Doesn't matter if they had any medical help, we want owners to work and workers not to work and take a vacation so we are going to make the owner give you the meds you need right? Of course not.

There are "some" jobs where the worker has to work, obviously not all jobs require it, some still work when it is not required like I have seen some McDonald's open at Christmas, that's not required, and that's because of greed by owners, I agree on that, but some like hospitals needs to be open, it's a must.
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December 13, 2024, 12:21:33 PM

Different role, different responsibility.

As a boss, he will get all the exposure, all the profit, reputation etc, he also the one who choose to be businessman who willing to work for 24/7, so there's nothing wrong if the boss need to work everyday.
As you said, different roles, different responsibilities. So have you ever thought about how much loss and damage a business would suffer if it closed just to give employees holiday? Employees may miss out on the chance to reunite with their families at the end of the year, but as a business, they could lose hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars if it's a large business.
Bosses can have it all but can also lose it all if they make mistakes and cause delays in business. Meanwhile, as an employee, they only lose one job and can easily find another elsewhere. Different roles, different responsibilities but the price to pay is also very different.


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While an employee, he didn't get the credit after working hard, not paid enough, didn't get any reputation. I don't see anything wrong for employee who just work to fulfill the minimum requirement.
If he is not satisfied with the company policy, he can quit, no one is forcing him to stay and continue working.

I don't deny that there is always injustice towards lower level positions in any company or field. But life is like that, if he can't sacrifice, can't tolerate the little things and always want fairness, he will never have a chance to advance or become a boss.
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December 13, 2024, 11:35:32 AM
While an employee, he didn't get the credit after working hard, not paid enough, didn't get any reputation. I don't see anything wrong for employee who just work to fulfill the minimum requirement.
However, every employee in a company should have some bonus or holiday arrangement even after such hard work. A company boss handles his company, so how he takes his time or how he works is his matter. A company boss does not care about holidays; his main goal is how he handles his work and moves forward. If he wants, he can enjoy the holidays, and if he does not want to enjoy them, he can spend his holidays at work, but there is no specific day to enjoy the holidays because he can spend that holiday conveniently in his spare time. A company boss can run everything in his way.

But even in that company, the employees work a lot, and at the end of the day or month, they get a limited salary. They work hard for their remuneration. A company boss should take care of some of the girls in his company. The employees should be made happy so that they can enjoy the company's work. The employees can expect something good from where they spend their youth and work tirelessly. If employees receive fair remuneration and the company's bosses understand them, The company's employees will work very well, and the company will move forward very well.
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December 13, 2024, 11:31:24 AM
But what do you think about making someone's work mandatory during holidays?

As long as the company pays more it shouldn't be a problem and also the company can give its employees the freedom to choose whether to accept the offer to work during the holidays or not. The problem is when the company pays the same salary as they usually get on weekdays, this is quite unfair, but you know in developing countries and also poor countries where getting a job is hard then employees don't have a choice even when the company doesn't give them the holidays they should get, they just follow it as long as they don't lose their jobs.
I think most companies will prefer to see their workers working during the holidays if they will boast the profit making of the company and in that kind of situation the company will likely add to the salary of the workers but in a situation where there is an agreement between the company and the staff during the time of interview and working on holidays is included as part of the agreement I don't think the companies are meant to increase the salaries of the staff unless they want to

In the case of the developing countries like my country Nigeria, my experience working in a company during the holidays we are encouraged to work since we are essential workers but at the end of the day the company encourages us by giving us some tips by the end of the working hours but not all the companies do this it all depends on the management.
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December 13, 2024, 10:59:11 AM
#99
Some offices give employees time off during holidays, but others don't. Some even make employees come to work on Christmas Day or during other festive seasons.

For me, I don't think it's fair to make an employee work during holidays. I think it should be voluntary - if you want to come to work, you can, but if you don't, you can stay home and celebrate with your family and friends.

Giving employees official holidays during their festive seasons should be part of their benefit package. I say "their festive seasons" because Christians may want to celebrate Christmas, Muslims may want to celebrate Eid al-Fitr, and Hindus may want to celebrate Diwali.

This is also a way to promote diversity in the workplace. If Christians take Christmas off, Muslims and Hindus can work, and then when Muslims take Eid off, Christians and Hindus can work. This way, you can regulate your workforce and give employees the freedom to celebrate their holidays.

By doing this, you prioritize employees' satisfaction and well-being. This is why people don't leave jobs, they leave toxic work environments. When you make people feel comfortable and loved, they will stay, and it will increase productivity and mutual respect.

Closing offices during holidays for like two weeks might affect business revenue, but how much?

You've been working from January to December, you should have sustainable investments and is it worth making employees miss out on time with their families and friends? I don't think so.

But what do you think about making someone's work mandatory during holidays?

How about you just give everyone an equal (or earned due to length of service) amount of time off and let them book holidays whenever they want? If your country has something like special annual holidays, that is apart of the history of it and should not be bent for every religion that decides to emigrate there. Some jobs require year round service, or at least their owners should pay a premium for workers on special days, like the police force or every fuel stations which may stay open during this time. Frankly I couldn't care less what kind of sky fairy you believe in, but nobody else should be expected to work around it and everyone should be treated equally if we want to make the fairest country.
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December 13, 2024, 10:23:32 AM
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But what do you think about making someone's work mandatory during holidays?
Actually, working on holidays, especially national holidays such as Eid al-Fitr and Christmas, is not a problem if there is an agreement between you and the company. In addition, there is also additional wages because if you work on holidays you must get compensation that must be agreed upon together.

The problem is, there are some types of work that must be done continuously, such as in hospitals or food production factories or others, which may still have to run even on holidays. So actually this depends on the changes you are working on, if the policy is to treat humans as humans, of course if you have to work on holidays, the company must provide more compensation because you have spent your holiday time working. If not, it will be your risk in doing the job. That's the reason I don't like working in a company because I don't like being bossed around. It's better to have your own business, even if it's small or freelance, than to work in a place that makes us uncomfortable with policies that sometimes don't make sense. On religious holidays, people are not allowed to take leave, but are instead asked to work with wages like normal days.
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December 13, 2024, 07:34:33 AM
#97
When you are really that trying out to apply into a certain work then its impossible that terms or on whats your work be explained into you on which if you do find out that there's some work on holiday season then you do still have the time for you to have that to back out of the work because you dont like their terms or on how things goes but on the moment that you have agreed on such thing then ready to accept on what are those jobs that will really be thrown to you since you have agreed and accept it on the first place. Therefore there's no way that you could be able to make out some complaints but of course you do need money and you will really be that accepting on whatever work it would be as long  you can be able to do it then i dont really see any issues. You are the ones who do make out such decisions whether you do make out some complaints or not.
That's the truth, if you agreed your job and everything that comes with it, then there is nothing you can do about it, you just have to accept it the way it is. I can see some people not being able to accept these things, but as long as you can make it work, then there isn't anything that you can do to change it all together. People who get into a job, realize the job isn't for them and leave, for many reasons and not just holiday reasons, and I never understood why they didn't fully understood the required work, but sometimes the employer hides some stuff as well.

I once took a job, way back when I first finished college many many years ago, and I didn't know that job required me to stand instead of sit, and the job wasn't some job that required standing, I could have easily sit, not going to say what it was, but I could have sit all day and nothing would have changed, they didn't tell me this part because they thought it was "common knowledge", next time I found exact same job in another company, and we were sitting down like normal people, so it's obvious that it wasn't common. I quit like after 2 weeks, if company hides stuff from you before you take the job, then it might shock you when you learn.
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December 12, 2024, 09:42:42 PM
#96
I bet if you own a business that provides such emergency or essential services, you would also force or try to negotiate with your employees to stay at work on the holiday. Or even you, as the boss will have to work on holidays, let alone your employees because it is your job and responsibility.
Different role, different responsibility.

As a boss, he will get all the exposure, all the profit, reputation etc, he also the one who choose to be businessman who willing to work for 24/7, so there's nothing wrong if the boss need to work everyday.

While an employee, he didn't get the credit after working hard, not paid enough, didn't get any reputation. I don't see anything wrong for employee who just work to fulfill the minimum requirement.
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December 12, 2024, 10:34:15 AM
#95
Making work mandatory during holidays can harm employee morale and well-being, particularly if it prevents them from celebrating important occasions with family and friends. A better approach is to make holiday work voluntary, offering incentives like extra pay or compensatory time off for those who choose to work. This respects employees’ personal priorities while ensuring essential business needs are met.

Tailoring holidays to cultural and religious diversity, such as allowing Christians to take Christmas off or Muslims to celebrate Eid, promotes inclusion and fosters mutual respect. It also helps balance the workforce during festive periods.

Though closing offices for holidays may impact revenue, the long-term benefits of a satisfied and loyal workforce outweigh short-term losses. Employees who feel valued are more productive, committed, and less likely to leave. Ultimately, prioritizing employees’ well-being benefits both the individuals and the organization.
When you are really that trying out to apply into a certain work then its impossible that terms or on whats your work be explained into you on which if you do find out that there's some work on holiday season then you do still have the time for you to have that to back out of the work because you dont like their terms or on how things goes but on the moment that you have agreed on such thing then ready to accept on what are those jobs that will really be thrown to you since you have agreed and accept it on the first place. Therefore there's no way that you could be able to make out some complaints but of course you do need money and you will really be that accepting on whatever work it would be as long  you can be able to do it then i dont really see any issues. You are the ones who do make out such decisions whether you do make out some complaints or not.
People do usually accept out when they dont have any choice, having no job is hard nowadays yet you wont really be able to survive and thats why even if its hard on having some additional work or against into your principle but it would be having no choice on your part and you will really be needing to do it for you to make money and we do need money for us to survive on which this is a normal approach or consideration.
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December 12, 2024, 10:07:59 AM
#94


You can try to go out during holidays and find the companies that still open, ask the employees whether they're want to work during holidays or not. Most of them are forced, hence they're work during holidays.



Some people are forced but many people go to work voluntarily because working on holidays helps them earn more money. Also, sometimes it's not just about money, but also about job responsibilities and the nature of the job. For those types of jobs that provide emergency services like hospitals, firefighting or essential goods… if all the employees in those fields are off work, what will happen to the rest of the world during those holidays?

I bet if you own a business that provides such emergency or essential services, you would also force or try to negotiate with your employees to stay at work on the holiday. Or even you, as the boss will have to work on holidays, let alone your employees because it is your job and responsibility.
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December 12, 2024, 09:54:01 AM
#93
But what do you think about making someone's work mandatory during holidays?

Leave the company immediately. Seriously, A company shouldn’t do a mandatory work during holidays since it’s one of the few days which you will not work while the rest of the days all throughout the year is your working days.

I have this kind of company before which is owned by Chinese businessmen. They are forcing mandatory work on holidays with additional minimal pay which is sucks since you will still get 100% pay if you will not work.

There’s a lot of companies that has better working hours setup.
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December 12, 2024, 09:49:31 AM
#92
There is an age for work and there is an age for toil, after a certain period but we cannot work as hard as youth even if we wanted to. If at this age there is an option to work on Fridays or overtime duty then I am definitely ready to do overtime. Having worked hard at my young age, I will definitely try to do something later so that I can be at least a little bit comfortable in later life.  But if there is no rest in the age of labor without labor, then the future will surely be bad.
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December 12, 2024, 08:37:05 AM
#91
But what do you think about making someone's work mandatory during holidays?

As long as the company pays more it shouldn't be a problem and also the company can give its employees the freedom to choose whether to accept the offer to work during the holidays or not. The problem is when the company pays the same salary as they usually get on weekdays, this is quite unfair, but you know in developing countries and also poor countries where getting a job is hard then employees don't have a choice even when the company doesn't give them the holidays they should get, they just follow it as long as they don't lose their jobs.
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December 12, 2024, 06:26:45 AM
#90
Making work mandatory during holidays can harm employee morale and well-being, particularly if it prevents them from celebrating important occasions with family and friends. A better approach is to make holiday work voluntary, offering incentives like extra pay or compensatory time off for those who choose to work. This respects employees’ personal priorities while ensuring essential business needs are met.

Tailoring holidays to cultural and religious diversity, such as allowing Christians to take Christmas off or Muslims to celebrate Eid, promotes inclusion and fosters mutual respect. It also helps balance the workforce during festive periods.

Though closing offices for holidays may impact revenue, the long-term benefits of a satisfied and loyal workforce outweigh short-term losses. Employees who feel valued are more productive, committed, and less likely to leave. Ultimately, prioritizing employees’ well-being benefits both the individuals and the organization.

What about respect that employees should give to their bosses, because they have chosen them to work but not the other guy in employment line? I think people that work on holidays, dont have a default Monday-Friday schedule and they and their family are used to such schedule. And often working on holidays isnt a surprise for employee. I am sure that employee knows his schedule long time before holidays and can prepare himself and family that he will be not available for a certain period of time.
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December 12, 2024, 03:37:42 AM
#89
Making work mandatory during holidays can harm employee morale and well-being, particularly if it prevents them from celebrating important occasions with family and friends. A better approach is to make holiday work voluntary, offering incentives like extra pay or compensatory time off for those who choose to work. This respects employees’ personal priorities while ensuring essential business needs are met.

Tailoring holidays to cultural and religious diversity, such as allowing Christians to take Christmas off or Muslims to celebrate Eid, promotes inclusion and fosters mutual respect. It also helps balance the workforce during festive periods.

Though closing offices for holidays may impact revenue, the long-term benefits of a satisfied and loyal workforce outweigh short-term losses. Employees who feel valued are more productive, committed, and less likely to leave. Ultimately, prioritizing employees’ well-being benefits both the individuals and the organization.
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December 12, 2024, 02:35:54 AM
#88
I have total respect and appreciation for people that work during the holidays. Despite that they’re away from their families and can’t create special memories with the loved ones in their life.
Thankfully, these people that work on holidays are able to keep certain businesses and restaurants open that we need. Take for example essential business that cannot close and need workers that can operate or work during the holidays. Restaurants and hospitals is some of those.
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December 12, 2024, 01:08:46 AM
#87
Some offices give employees time off during holidays, but others don't. Some even make employees come to work on Christmas Day or during other festive seasons.

For me, I don't think it's fair to make an employee work during holidays. I think it should be voluntary - if you want to come to work, you can, but if you don't, you can stay home and celebrate with your family and friends.

Well, there are some emergency services like hospitals, Police stations, fire services, and many more where they need their employees no matter how big a festival is going on. The emergency service is always ready to serve you, and it is possible because their employees work on holidays. But I know some companies force employees to work on holidays even though they are not emergency services.

The employees of those companies should file a case against their boss in labor court. I have worked in a private company, and they used to ask employees to work on holidays. Sometimes, the boss asks to finish the work even after office hours. But they do not pay for overtime.
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December 12, 2024, 12:39:17 AM
#86
I am late to the party, still I'll drop my 2 cents on this. Before getting employed the employment letter you received would carry this information about their policies with regards to working during the holidays. Accepting the offer of employment equals acceptance of their work during the holidays policy.

There's no reason to accept it and then turn around to complain about it during the holidays. Business must go on irrespective of the holidays. I can't imagine a restaurant being closed during the holidays. They'll lose a lot of money as that is their peak season.

Anyone who doesn't like it can dust their resume and start job hunting for their choice.
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December 11, 2024, 10:07:13 PM
#85
It depends on what sector you work in, but I don't think it's a problem to work on a holiday. Especially on long holidays, such as Sacrifice (Eid al-Adha), Ramadan or long holidays for Christians, leaving work can lead to long periods of downtime and disruption, no matter what sector you work in. Anyway, most of the jobs pay extra salary if you work on holidays. I think this is reason enough to work. Those who are thinking of taking a vacation on special days should make their career planning accordingly and work in sectors with holidays available.
I agree with you on this,  it depends on the sector a person works.  There are people who are so important in there Area of specialization in there  place of work, and the company finds it difficult to do without them. and this makes the company to detain them even when others are leaving for holidays.  This makes the company to add bonuses or overtime as a way of  compasating them. If the condition is good for the worker to work during the holidays to make extra income then it's fine by the workers.  I personally see that not everyone is allowed to work during holidays,  it is selective meaning that only hardworking keep skilled people are selected. I have worked in construction company so I can tell how it's done.
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