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Quote from: danadc on November 20, 2024, 06:59:54 PM

Is a fact that Donald Trump will be able to control the wars, between Ukraine and Russia I am sure he will be able to stop it and reach an agreement, with the Middle East it is complicated in that case he would go with all his force in favor of Israel, then it is a fact that things are now much better so that most people take war as a way to make money, the money or the business of war is sure to end for the devils who want to continue the war, then Donald Trump's mission if he has divine help.

Many candidates give various promises to win elections but the reality may be slightly different. The war between Russia and Ukraine has already passed 1000 days but there is no visible sign of ceasefire and how much Mr. Trump can succeed depends on time and circumstances. Mr Biden's last term in office allowed Ukraine to launch missile strikes inside Russia, with the effect that Zelensky could face a nuclear attack if he did so. A nuclear attack will have negative effects around the world

The war in the middle east is already going on and its impact has made food supply insecure for more than a million people and people are dying of hunger, time will tell how effective action Mr. Trump can take in the future, but I think the US policy has such a positive impact on the common people of the world. Instead, war will continue to increase as powerful nations seek to become more economically prosperous through war and increase arms sales.

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Is a fact that Donald Trump will be able to control the wars, between Ukraine and Russia I am sure he will be able to stop it and reach an agreement, with the Middle East it is complicated in that case he would go with all his force in favor of Israel, then it is a fact that things are now much better so that most people take war as a way to make money, the money or the business of war is sure to end for the devils who want to continue the war, then Donald Trump's mission if he has divine help.

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Quote from: Fortify on November 05, 2024, 02:57:54 PM

There is always a new crisis around the corner, but at the moment we seem to be in a reasonably stable and contained state. It is very sad to have so many wars going on right now, but it is almost part of human nature and they can have many different root causes, it will be impossible to stop them all easily. Religion is often a big or underlying factor in war, even if it was all abandoned tomorrow though - people would find new things to fight over. If war started to happen between the larger and more significant world economies, like China and America, or something began destabilizing Europe, then we might see the economy start to tank because that is a potential WW3 scenario.

The causes of war are often many factors and sometimes wars are even deliberately created. Because actually if we look at it, America as a superpower should help ease tensions between the conflicting parties. But in reality, this country is actually taking advantage of the situation for its own benefit by helping one party that it feels can provide benefits. We can see this from the way they help Ukraine and Israel.

So if we look at the current scenario, world war is indeed difficult to avoid, because this war is indeed awaited by Russia and China. They have openly challenged the US, wanting to replace the US as the winner of World War 2. They have prepared BRICS as a replacement for the USD. So far, signs that the USD is starting to be threatened by its power with the birth of BRICS are real. If World War 3 happens, could this be what they really want?

We as ordinary people can only prepare ourselves to invest in order to face the uncertain world economy.

By the way, sometimes it crosses my mind, World peace will be realized if Jerusalem is completely controlled by Muslims.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 07, 2024, 06:45:14 AM

Quote from: Abiky on November 06, 2024, 11:47:00 AM

Why can't China and the US work together? Or why can't Russia and the US settle things diplomatically, instead of turning against each other?

When a country is controlled by arms dealers who make money by selling weapons and they can only sell weapons if there are wars, then it is obvious that you can't work with that country (ie. United States).

That's the problem with the US, just look at the list of donors/contributors to Trump campaign. You will see familiar names like Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman. They would have never given him money if they thought he would end wars and bankrupt their companies Cheesy

So how can any country (not just China and Russia) work with this United States?

I don't know if I'm missing something but the last time I checked, no new war started during Trump's first term in office instead he ended so many wars. During the last campaigns, he even stressed the need to end the bloodshed and the avoidable war between Russia and Ukraine which he promised to end as soon as possible. Judging by his actions that brought relative peace when he was president, I think we could give him benefit of the doubts unless you are saying that he will not do as he has said, being a politician.

It was even Obama and Joe Biden that seems to push for wars more than Trump or could it be that the Russia Ukraine war, Libya, Sudan, Haiti, Congo, Gaza, Lebanon, Somalia and the various military coups in francophone West Africa were doomed to happen irrespective of who was the president of the United states?

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violence of war is increasing day by day, although different countries of the world are discussing this war verbally (limited only to newspapers), they are not taking any preventive measures especially regarding the subject of this war. The war between Russia and Ukraine can be called a sign of the Third World War. Almost different countries of the world are facing economic crises and the people are living below the poverty line. Anarchy is being created in every field, starting from the import and export of different countries.

I think if the presidents of several countries sit in discussion with American President Trump, then we may be able to get rid of this violence.

This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia. This is a terrorist attack of Russia on Ukraine, and on the entire civilized world. The goals of this terror are to prepare a springboard for the creation of an “alliance of countries” that don't care about laws, don't care about obligations, don't care about anything. Their idea is “terror is power”, their goal is to return the world to the times of empires and slave system, which they are building at home, and successfully. Their goal is not to create, but to destroy. To destroy everything - economies, cities, countries, lives, morals.....
And yes, there is a solution, the same as it was accepted in the Second World War - is the destruction of the regime that unleashed the world slaughter. “Russian world” is a cancerous tumor of the modern world, and the treatment of the cancerous tumor is only preventive and harsh.
The world economy is now forced to spend huge amounts of money to help Ukraine in the fight against Rashism, to reform its economies, to change suppliers and supply routes for resources, instead of calm development and progress in a peaceful situation.

I understand and don't blame you for what you say because of what your country is going through but if we look at the war as an outsider. It can be seen that Russia has been dragged into a war that even they do not want because it is clear that they do not benefit from this war when their economy is also facing many challenges.

Everyone has different views on the war but anyway it will all end soon when Trump officially becomes president. I believe America is the only country that can stop this war but Biden and the Democrats don't want that because they have interests behind it. But Trump is different, he has criticized this senseless war many times and I believe that once he officially becomes president, the war will have to end.

As far as I know, Ukraine has been given permission by Biden to use long-range strike weapons to attack Russian territory, some Ukrainian supporters will welcome this but it will not be good if Russia deploys nuclear weapons. I hope things don't get worse until Trump takes office to end the war.

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Quote from: ovcijisir on November 19, 2024, 05:40:54 AM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 17, 2024, 01:55:59 AM

Actually most of those weapons are not sold to people who are at war, it is instead sold to everyone else!

For example we all know US government is controlled by the arms dealers; over the past 3 years their biggest contracts and sales were to European countries and Arab dictators and some East Asian countries. None of which are at war!
In EU for example the US government forced them to donate their old and somewhat obsolete weapons to Ukraine and then forced them to buy new weapons from US arms dealers!

I guess that this is because those countries are NATO members, so they have to do what is ordered to them. I they are told to donate and then buy new they have to do it.

Not really considered as "ordered" because NATO decides together, which means that if a nation that is part of NATO, they get together with other NATO members and do whatever they do together, they are not ordered by others, they are all getting a vote and based on their vote they do something, so you have a voice there and you provide a vote towards whatever the subject is.

Sometimes that could be war, sometimes it could be something much smaller, this is the most important part and we can't really consider it any further different at all. Basically what we are seeing at the current situation would be considering how to grow further with membership process, NATO has to grow, and they are not growing at the moment, without growing and all fairly contributing then we can't really consider anything better. If they all do equal powers, then we could consider everything being fair and there won't be any issues between each other.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 17, 2024, 01:55:59 AM

Quote from: ovcijisir on November 16, 2024, 12:30:03 PM

You are right, the interest of weapons company is to prolong the war as long as possible so they can sell weapons for the fighting. And people who are under attack don't ask for price when they need weapons to save the lives.

Actually most of those weapons are not sold to people who are at war, it is instead sold to everyone else!

For example we all know US government is controlled by the arms dealers; over the past 3 years their biggest contracts and sales were to European countries and Arab dictators and some East Asian countries. None of which are at war!
In EU for example the US government forced them to donate their old and somewhat obsolete weapons to Ukraine and then forced them to buy new weapons from US arms dealers!

I guess that this is because those countries are NATO members, so they have to do what is ordered to them. I they are told to donate and then buy new they have to do it.

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Quote from: ovcijisir on November 16, 2024, 12:30:03 PM

You are right, the interest of weapons company is to prolong the war as long as possible so they can sell weapons for the fighting. And people who are under attack don't ask for price when they need weapons to save the lives.

It always seems like a business that will never stop in this world because when wars around the world stop, of course the arms companies will also be less interested in buying weapons. In addition, the profits that can be targeted by other companies are also very open, such as by oil and natural gas companies which in general will continue to be needed by certain parties including the arms companies themselves. But I am only worried about the lives of innocent children so that they will always be victims which they should not be targeted in a war.

Unfortunately innocent people are victims, they pay with their lives someone's sick ambitions and greed. Even people who survive will have to live in war devastated areas. That is sad.

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Quote from: ? on November 13, 2024, 11:20:05 AM

violence of war is increasing day by day, although different countries of the world are discussing this war verbally (limited only to newspapers), they are not taking any preventive measures especially regarding the subject of this war. The war between Russia and Ukraine can be called a sign of the Third World War. Almost different countries of the world are facing economic crises and the people are living below the poverty line. Anarchy is being created in every field, starting from the import and export of different countries.

I think if the presidents of several countries sit in discussion with American President Trump, then we may be able to get rid of this violence.

This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia. This is a terrorist attack of Russia on Ukraine, and on the entire civilized world. The goals of this terror are to prepare a springboard for the creation of an “alliance of countries” that don't care about laws, don't care about obligations, don't care about anything. Their idea is “terror is power”, their goal is to return the world to the times of empires and slave system, which they are building at home, and successfully. Their goal is not to create, but to destroy. To destroy everything - economies, cities, countries, lives, morals.....
And yes, there is a solution, the same as it was accepted in the Second World War - is the destruction of the regime that unleashed the world slaughter. “Russian world” is a cancerous tumor of the modern world, and the treatment of the cancerous tumor is only preventive and harsh.
The world economy is now forced to spend huge amounts of money to help Ukraine in the fight against Rashism, to reform its economies, to change suppliers and supply routes for resources, instead of calm development and progress in a peaceful situation.

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Quote from: ovcijisir on November 16, 2024, 12:30:03 PM

You are right, the interest of weapons company is to prolong the war as long as possible so they can sell weapons for the fighting. And people who are under attack don't ask for price when they need weapons to save the lives.

It always seems like a business that will never stop in this world because when wars around the world stop, of course the arms companies will also be less interested in buying weapons. In addition, the profits that can be targeted by other companies are also very open, such as by oil and natural gas companies which in general will continue to be needed by certain parties including the arms companies themselves. But I am only worried about the lives of innocent children so that they will always be victims which they should not be targeted in a war.

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Quote from: l99l on November 16, 2024, 12:31:42 PM

We hope this will not happen. If we enter a period where wars decrease in the world, we will see inflation decrease in developed and developing countries.
I think if we count the recession period as 2019, the world needs to enter a new period, such as less war, more trade and agreement among states.

No one expects a war because it can endanger the economic situation in a much greater capacity, but in terms of conspiracy, some governments will influence the war because they can supply the needs of defense equipment.
The disaster that occurred has killed the economy because there was a recession process that occurred so that certain countries had quite big problems.
War will be much more dangerous because it will affect the failure of the country's source of income or will kill goods circulating widely in the market which in the end the scarcity will make everything more chaotic.

The new period after the war needs healing and reorganizing the government process which takes a long time.
This is a problem for the people and we pray that there will be no more wars because it can endanger people's lives in fulfilling their lives.

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Quote from: laijsica on November 05, 2024, 11:45:27 AM

But it can be said without a doubt that if the situation of war in the world is not reduced by 2025, there may be a catastrophic economic situation all over the world and the GDP growth of the developed countries starting from the least developed countries may decrease.

It's strange how the war affects countries in a different way. I don't know how catastrophic is the situation in other countries but here, in my country, this war had a positive impact on our economy. Since the start of the Russia-Ukraine war, lots of rich Russian and Ukrainian people flew to my country, then local citizens immediately tripled rent prices (sadly, many local people were forced to leave rented apartments and move in towns and villages) and made a very good amount of money.
These Russian and Ukrainian immigrants also came with lots of money, they actively started buying apartments which increased prices on the local market and if the apartment was $100 000 before, its value became $200 000. They also started businesses here and overall, this situation brought lots of money and significantly strengthened our currency.

I think that it's not going to do any good for us long-term because these Russians and Ukrainians own so many businesses and apartments and are expanding so rapidly that soon we will be a working class for them and we will rent apartments from them.

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Quote from: ovcijisir on November 16, 2024, 12:30:03 PM

You are right, the interest of weapons company is to prolong the war as long as possible so they can sell weapons for the fighting. And people who are under attack don't ask for price when they need weapons to save the lives.

Actually most of those weapons are not sold to people who are at war, it is instead sold to everyone else!

For example we all know US government is controlled by the arms dealers; over the past 3 years their biggest contracts and sales were to European countries and Arab dictators and some East Asian countries. None of which are at war!
In EU for example the US government forced them to donate their old and somewhat obsolete weapons to Ukraine and then forced them to buy new weapons from US arms dealers!

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Quote from: laijsica on November 05, 2024, 11:45:27 AM

But it can be said without a doubt that if the situation of war in the world is not reduced by 2025, there may be a catastrophic economic situation all over the world and the GDP growth of the developed countries starting from the least developed countries may decrease.

We hope this will not happen. If we enter a period where wars decrease in the world, we will see inflation decrease in developed and developing countries.
I think if we count the recession period as 2019, the world needs to enter a new period, such as less war, more trade and agreement among states.

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Quote from: dansus021 on November 16, 2024, 11:40:44 AM

Yeahhh I know and this is not just because the war I think this all started when the Covid Hit market crash supply chain is distrupt and everyhing is at chaos, when the world started to recovery there is war ongoing all over the place. I believe the economy in every country is uncertain. There is some companies that fully recovered from the crash but there is a lot that already bankrupt.

It is very danger to any country and I hope the war going to end soon because when there is war only who get profited from it is the weapon company and the rest gonna take the bitter pill.

You are right, the interest of weapons company is to prolong the war as long as possible so they can sell weapons for the fighting. And people who are under attack don't ask for price when they need weapons to save the lives.

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Yeahhh I know and this is not just because the war I think this all started when the Covid Hit market crash supply chain is distrupt and everyhing is at chaos, when the world started to recovery there is war ongoing all over the place. I believe the economy in every country is uncertain. There is some companies that fully recovered from the crash but there is a lot that already bankrupt.

It is very danger to any country and I hope the war going to end soon because when there is war only who get profited from it is the weapon company and the rest gonna take the bitter pill.

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We are already seeing the effects of the Russia-Ukraine war on the global economy. On the one hand, Russia-Ukraine war has caused major changes in the country's economy, on the other hand, the country is almost paralyzed due to the corruption of the country's political leaders. Due to the corrupt political leaders of my country, the economic structure of the country is completely paralyzed. Once the corruption of the leaders was not very visible, but since the economic disaster caused by the war in Russia and Ukraine, the corruption of the government has become more visible. The corrupt government has fallen but has not been able to improve the unstable situation left by the previous government.

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Quote from: laijsica on November 05, 2024, 11:45:27 AM

The global economic situation is really in danger with every country experiencing a significant decline in growth especially in African countries. The aid that the countries under the United Nations (UN) are receiving is very insufficient compared to the people and if the government of that country is corrupt it can be very difficult to reach the people.

The rich are getting richer as a result of the capitalist state system, yet the rising cost of living in developed countries is leaving people unable to meet their desired goals. Food prices are rising amid the war between Ukraine and Russia and the effects of an escalation in the Middle East war could have an impact on the global economy. If Iran's preparations for war with Israel escalate, the price of oil will increase, which in turn will increase the price of every commodity around the world. With the increasing effects of inflation the tendency of people to become poor is increasing and a large number of people in the world do not have enough food for two days.

But it can be said without a doubt that if the situation of war in the world is not reduced by 2025, there may be a catastrophic economic situation all over the world and the GDP growth of the developed countries starting from the least developed countries may decrease.

All you have explained did not happen by accident by a grand plan of the global elites that prefer to keep people poor and helpless because the poorer people are, the easier it becomes to keep them under control. One way they are doing this is by proposing programs and policies that will look fanciful on the surface but when implemented will destroy economies of nations and render them miserable so that the next step will be to borrow and depend on the so-called aid that never help anybody. Let us hope that the coming of President Donald Trump will change some of these globalist designs that is making people poorer and weaker.

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As the days go by, the war is increasing in the whole world. At the same time, the whole world is becoming economically devastated. Because due to war, the prices of daily necessities of people increase unimaginably.

If the war continues like this, many countries will continue to be poor despite having sufficient resources. Because all those countries will not be able to export or import any of their products to other countries due to war.

I think that the countries that are currently fighting wars will stop only when the developed and powerful countries think about other countries instead of thinking about themselves.

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To be fair economy has been going down the drain for a long time, and this was coming and nobody is doing fine. It doesn't matter if you are living in a very poor nation or a very rich nation. You could be living in Yemen, and still be poor, or you could be living in New York and still be poor.

At this point, I feel like there is a huge chance that we are going to just live a poor life unless we just get money somewhere. If we somehow get lucky and get richer then things are fine, but majority of the world will live in poverty and that will probably not change at all, it will probably just stay the same. This is why I do not think that we are going to end up with anything good, not anytime soon, things has to chance first.

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Quote from: Abiky on November 13, 2024, 11:46:49 AM

Quote from: Minor Miner on November 12, 2024, 10:47:08 AM

We need not mention major consequences like World War II, with wars between Russia and Ukraine, Iran and Israel also shaking the global economy. The world is more unstable than ever and we need real change. That is also why the American people needed change and they chose Trump instead of continuing to trust the Biden administration.

America is the country that can end these unnecessary conflicts, but under Biden, they have allowed it to happen and even sought to maintain it. But I believe that under the Trump administration, things will soon improve because as we see, there was no war during his first term.

If Trump cannot stop the war from spreading, it will not only cause serious economic damage but also be apocalyptic. Because if there is a third world war, it will no longer be a war between simple weapons but nuclear weapons. A nuclear war would destroy the world.

If a third world war happens, it will be the end of the human race as we know it. Especially when countries like the US, and Russia have nuclear weapons in their arsenal. The latter is known to have the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world, followed by the US. Would you imagine a confrontation between the West and Russia? They would throw nuclear missles against each other, leading the world towards complete and utter disaster.

The Biden administration was this close towards enabling WW3. Thank God it didn't happen. And it'll never be as long as future administrations have a good handling of foreign policy. With President Trump winning a second term, there's hope in helping restore the global economy back to the way it was. With peace among countries, economic prosperity will be achieved. I don't think Trump will fail. But if he does, then things will only get worse. I'm confident America and the world will reach "light at the end of the tunnel". Just you wait and see.

In general, everything is correct, but there is a nuance - the presence of nuclear weapons should not justify aggression and violation of all laws and commitments undertaken. And if now we continue to do what Biden did, namely “expressing concern” and trying to placate a terrorist country, the situation will repeat itself, but in an even worse scenario. And again - if a country has nuclear weapons, then it has the right.... to, for example, occupy and destroy, for example, your country, blackmail the world with nuclear strikes and commit economic terror?

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