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sr. member
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Merit: 250
January 14, 2015, 12:48:22 PM
#34
LOL @ going through all this for $500. What a fucking dolt. Isn't this Kruniac guy the same turd we flushed from OTC last year?
Yes. It was obvious it was him by the way he spoke out and bragged about him scam. Took the last name on his account and found his scam link to Kruniac easily. Hopefully this time he'll go down.
sr. member
Activity: 351
Merit: 252
January 14, 2015, 12:42:16 PM
#33
i wanna see gardners mugshot .
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
January 14, 2015, 12:00:17 PM
#32
LOL @ going through all this for $500. What a fucking dolt. Isn't this Kruniac guy the same turd we flushed from OTC last year?
legendary
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Merit: 1043
#Free market
January 14, 2015, 11:40:55 AM
#31
I've left a negative feedback to WorldWideBTC , when all will be resolved I will gladly to remove the feedback.
hero member
Activity: 908
Merit: 657
January 14, 2015, 03:23:47 AM
#30
And dude spent over a year cultivating that account... to steal $500 ROFL

Eh, there's a good chance this is a bought account. His post history cuts off last April and he suddenly reappears near the beginning of December. Then he begins making transactions a month later, right when the "This user's password has been reset recently" warning is no longer on his profile or in the mod log. Just a guess, but it lines up perfectly for this to be the case.

I mentioned something about that a couple of days ago... No idea why negative feedback was removed.

It appears that WWBTC traded with RockMiner before the JohnnyQuid thread was made, so it wouldn't have made that much of a difference in this case. That being said, the main problem is that it is pretty easy to get negative feedback removed if you haven't actually scammed anyone yet, it isn't a hard argument to make and most members in default trust don't want to put up with the hassle of defending their ratings (you've seen what Vod puts up with). Seeing as you were just added to default trust, your trust rating should be enough to warn users as long as you are willing to back it up with enough evidence.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
January 14, 2015, 02:59:28 AM
#29
And dude spent over a year cultivating that account... to steal $500 ROFL

Eh, there's a good chance this is a bought account. His post history cuts off last April and he suddenly reappears near the beginning of December. Then he begins making transactions a month later, right when the "This user's password has been reset recently" warning is no longer on his profile or in the mod log. Just a guess, but it lines up perfectly for this to be the case.

I mentioned something about that a couple of days ago... No idea why negative feedback was removed.
hero member
Activity: 908
Merit: 657
January 14, 2015, 02:54:52 AM
#28
And dude spent over a year cultivating that account... to steal $500 ROFL

Eh, there's a good chance this is a bought account. His post history cuts off last April and he suddenly reappears near the beginning of December. Then he begins making transactions a month later, right when the "This user's password has been reset recently" warning is no longer on his profile or in the mod log. Just a guess, but it lines up perfectly for this to be the case.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
January 14, 2015, 02:51:28 AM
#27
This is what happens when you don't use escrow.

You love to say that don't you.  Its obvious....it doesn't need to be rubbed in. 

He had trades with respected forum members....without issue.  Yup my bad, but at least I am in a position to take that loss and it not hurt me.  Which I am pretty sure I will get back anyways.
legendary
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Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
January 14, 2015, 02:35:19 AM
#26
And dude spent over a year cultivating that account... to steal $500 ROFL
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
January 14, 2015, 02:29:14 AM
#25
This is what happens when you don't use escrow.
full member
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Merit: 100
January 13, 2015, 10:48:18 PM
#24
OK. 

Good luck.

full member
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Merit: 100
January 13, 2015, 10:46:02 PM
#23
Evidence?

You stated from your own account the btc address you were sending to.

Period.

No transaction.

You used your own account (Gardner was the name).  You are done.  Maybe the idiot cops you dealt with before didnt do shit.  But you fucked the wrong person.

I am done replying.  Next reply from me will be posting your mugshot.

Good. I did what I wanted to do here. The legend continues.

And yeah, there must have been some kind of glitch with the Fuckcoin or whatever. Luckily, I gave you that consulting work you talked to me about on the phone. Or the other untraceable, intangible product that you wanted that you can't actually prove exists or doesn't exist.

Yawn.

I've shit bigger things than you, son. Smiley
full member
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January 13, 2015, 10:43:00 PM
#22
Evidence?

You stated from your own account the btc address you were sending to.

Period.

No transaction.

You used your own account (Gardner was the name).  You are done.  Maybe the idiot cops you dealt with before didnt do shit.  But you fucked the wrong person.

I am done replying.  Next reply from me will be posting your mugshot.
full member
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Merit: 100
January 13, 2015, 10:41:08 PM
#21
Sent WorldwideBTC 550.00 BoA transfer.

He claimed for days that is was not cleared, whn I know it was cleared that same day.  Refuses to pay.

Stay away.  I will be filing a report through my wife's office, if he slipped in any way, he will be caught.  If not, good scam asshole.

Ref:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919127.new#new
Message the people who he has obviously traded with in the past. I see that Maidak sold him BTC for moneygram, see if he still has the name he sent to, if possible. This can be a clear cut case, but will need some effort. At the very least, you can show bank of america the fraud and they can get involved and at the minimum shut down his account and possibly recover the funds for you.

Now I realize who WorldWide BTC is...he rang a bell by the way he acted in this thread. Here is who he is. Garrott Gardner. Scammed for a lot back in 2013. Heres the link to the thread, there are more if you do some digging. I believe someone sent him some of the BTC he scammed to sell and the seller pulled a "robin hood" and instead of sending the scammer $ he sent the BTC back to the scammer's victims. He even mentions himself in this thread because Garrott moved across country with his scam and was not touched unfortunately. Its the same guy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229612.0;all

His name is Garrott Gardner. See above.

That's Kruniac to you, fella. Who are you, anyway? Why the newbie account?

I'm genuinely curious as to why established folks around here create newbie accounts.
full member
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Merit: 100
January 13, 2015, 10:40:09 PM
#20
One thing is certain - the burden of proof isn't on ME (or whomever) to show that they DID send bitcoins. The burden of proof is on the VICTIM to prove that they never received goods. As Bitcoins are untraceable to an IP, and a digital good that has no static owner....


....You get the point.

As far as I'm concerned, you got your bitcoins. Prove that you didn't.
He has proved that he sent you a specific address to send the bitcoin to. Unless there is a transaction confirmed by the network for the amount of bitcoin that you owe him to the address he gave you then he has proven that you did not give him the bitcoin as agreed.

He could have sent me anything. That address could be invalid. I barely know what a "botchcoin" is, or whatever you call it. XD
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
January 13, 2015, 10:39:56 PM
#19
Sent WorldwideBTC 550.00 BoA transfer.

He claimed for days that is was not cleared, whn I know it was cleared that same day.  Refuses to pay.

Stay away.  I will be filing a report through my wife's office, if he slipped in any way, he will be caught.  If not, good scam asshole.

Ref:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919127.new#new
Message the people who he has obviously traded with in the past. I see that Maidak sold him BTC for moneygram, see if he still has the name he sent to, if possible. This can be a clear cut case, but will need some effort. At the very least, you can show bank of america the fraud and they can get involved and at the minimum shut down his account and possibly recover the funds for you.

Now I realize who WorldWide BTC is...he rang a bell by the way he acted in this thread. Here is who he is. Garrott Gardner. Scammed for a lot back in 2013. Heres the link to the thread, there are more if you do some digging. I believe someone sent him some of the BTC he scammed to sell and the seller pulled a "robin hood" and instead of sending the scammer $ he sent the BTC back to the scammer's victims. He even mentions himself in this thread because Garrott moved across country with his scam and was not touched unfortunately. Its the same guy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229612.0;all

His name is Garrott Gardner. He has scammed before. See above.

Here is the profile of his old BTC account (probably one of many) that he has used to scam successfully. See his posts for the same arrogant "I'm invincible attitude" and last name Gardner:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kruniac-120425
full member
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Merit: 100
January 13, 2015, 10:39:33 PM
#18
Actually, I kind of want to call my bank (hypothetically) and tell him that some scammer is threatening to contact them about something called "bitecoins" or some such voodoo. Whatever you kids are into now adays.

Me? I'm just a humble web developer who accepts bank transfers for work. Who sells everyday goods at reasonable prices. I think I might have sold that "Rock" guy a laptop or something.


...Maybe it was an amazon gift card. An electronic one. Hm. I don't recall.
copper member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 2348
January 13, 2015, 10:39:02 PM
#17
One thing is certain - the burden of proof isn't on ME (or whomever) to show that they DID send bitcoins. The burden of proof is on the VICTIM to prove that they never received goods. As Bitcoins are untraceable to an IP, and a digital good that has no static owner....


....You get the point.

As far as I'm concerned, you got your bitcoins. Prove that you didn't.
He has proved that he sent you a specific address to send the bitcoin to. Unless there is a transaction confirmed by the network for the amount of bitcoin that you owe him to the address he gave you then he has proven that you did not give him the bitcoin as agreed.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
January 13, 2015, 10:35:34 PM
#16
The truly hilarious thing is that people's accounts get hacked.

Let me spell that out.

PEOPLE. ON THIS FORUM. ILLEGALLY. ACCESS. ACCOUNTS.

And yet the FBI isn't hauling people off? Hmm...

People run away with <$4,000 worth of Bitcoins in group buys that are scams. They run ponzis (WHICH ARE FUCKING ILLEGAL) and run off with the money. Let's not even talk about TradeFortress.

...These people are never prosecuted. Bitcoins aren't something you can chase down. There is no paper trail. There cannot be a theft. You simply are over your head, here.
You are acting a lot like segvec acted when he was caught scaring 14+ btc from SellingHBOgo. Do you happen to be his alt?

No. I'm an older name than that. Truth be told, I wasn't really around/paying attention for that drama. I think I read some red trust about it, but I don't know the details.

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Message the people who he has obviously traded with in the past. I see that Maidak sold him BTC for moneygram, see if he still has the name he sent to, if possible. This can be a clear cut case, but will need some effort. At the very least, you can show bank of america the fraud and they can get involved and at the minimum shut down his account and possibly recover the funds for you.

What fraud? Prove there was fraud.

That's the center of my point - there is no evidence of fraud. You can't SHOW BoA anything, because it's not there. What're you going to do? Say "HE NEVER SENT MAH BITCOINZ". Then you get a blank stare.

Or at the very least, they'll say "Okay. Give us evidence that you never received the bitcoins". Please do so.

If you can PROVE TO ME that you never received any bitcoins, I'll send you $600 in the mail.
copper member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 2348
January 13, 2015, 10:34:24 PM
#15
The truly hilarious thing is that people's accounts get hacked.

Let me spell that out.

PEOPLE. ON THIS FORUM. ILLEGALLY. ACCESS. ACCOUNTS.

And yet the FBI isn't hauling people off? Hmm...

People run away with <$4,000 worth of Bitcoins in group buys that are scams. They run ponzis (WHICH ARE FUCKING ILLEGAL) and run off with the money. Let's not even talk about TradeFortress.

...These people are never prosecuted. Bitcoins aren't something you can chase down. There is no paper trail. There cannot be a theft. You simply are over your head, here.
You are acting a lot like segvec acted when he was caught scaring 14+ btc from SellingHBOgo. Do you happen to be his alt?
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