Topic: WorldWideBTC scammer - page 2. (Read 1196 times)

The truly hilarious thing is that people's accounts get hacked.

Let me spell that out.

PEOPLE. ON THIS FORUM. ILLEGALLY. ACCESS. ACCOUNTS.

And yet the FBI isn't hauling people off? Hmm...

People run away with <$4,000 worth of Bitcoins in group buys that are scams. They run ponzis (WHICH ARE FUCKING ILLEGAL) and run off with the money. Let's not even talk about TradeFortress.

...These people are never prosecuted. Bitcoins aren't something you can chase down. There is no paper trail. There cannot be a theft. You simply are over your head, here.

Except you're wrong. See, there wasn't a cyber crime committed from this IP. You can't prove otherwise.

If my grandmother (All of whom are deceased, but I digress) was the account holder of this IP, it wouldn't matter. What would she be charged with? Lmao.

You legal beagles. You think you got it all sorted, then someone shits on your parade. There is no IP problem here. There is a burden of proof problem. Prove that you NEVER RECEIVED BITCOINS from whomever you sent funds to. You cannot do that. Welcome to crypto.


Let me tell you a little story. Once upon a time there was this guy. He scammed users out of about ~27 BTC. Some of those coins were recovered, but overall, he got away with a decent chunk of change. They had his identity. They had his IP. They had his PHYSICAL LOCATION.

HIS PHYSICAL LOCATION.

Do you know what happened? Wailing. Gnashing of teeth. Sadness. Fury. Nothing.

Nothing but a lot of "heavyweight" BTC businessmen balling their fists and shaking them at the computer screen. Nothing but words, threats, and a lot of annoying (and confusing) phone calls to various legal entities.

Meanwhile the guy moved across the country and went about his business.

If something unfortunate happened to you -that sucks. Get over it. You send funds to anonymous people on the internet for "bitcoins" (which aren't even a fucking thing), you take risks. Welcome to ANONYMOUS CRYPTO CURRENCY.


No. Just no.

No one is going to start an investigation into a bank account receiving funds, because nothing illegitimate happened during the fund transfer.

No one is admitting ANYTHING. We're all talking hypothetically here, folks.

One thing is certain - the burden of proof isn't on ME (or whomever) to show that they DID send bitcoins. The burden of proof is on the VICTIM to prove that they never received goods. As Bitcoins are untraceable to an IP, and a digital good that has no static owner....


....You get the point.

As far as I'm concerned, you got your bitcoins. Prove that you didn't.

You don't need to get anyone where the OP lives involved. All he needs to do is contact the local police who would start an investigation into the bank account you told him to deposit funds into. Once that happens your identity will quickly be determined and by your own posts on here you are blatantly admitting to have no intention of giving the OP the bitcoin you sold him. This should be an open and shut case

I like how you think you know the law so well....truth is, you make some valid points, but not all.

When the IP matches, they may not get you....but they will get the owner of that IP, so maybe your grandmother will get arrested.

You are scum...feel good about yourself?

I'm not even interested in running this guy into the ground any more. I want to see how someone from MO is going to use his DA wife to pursue something across half the country to "catch" an anonymous username which is associated with a location rather than an entity.

I mean.. Do you think this is my first time at bat, sir? You sent money to someone's bank account "for bitcoins". As far as I know, you got your coins. Prove that you DIDN'T RECEIVE SOMETHING. XD

Welcome to anonymous cryptocurrency. Although since it's just you complaining, I'm not going to get as much of a kick out of this as I did last time I graced this section of the forums.

Yeah, I want to see you link an IP to 1 out of 4 or more people who share a living area. I want to see that happen. Frankly, the mailman could have sent you that PM.

Who is that? WHO IS THAT PERSON SENDING YOU THE PM?

Is it me? What's happening here! I've been hornswoggled. Bamboozled. This is villainy, I say!

He's asking you to prove that he is the same person who is attached to that bank account. That is essentially impossible for you to prove without a security mistake on WorldWideBTC's part.

Take your ego out of the situation and make the right decision.

You didn't address what I had said.


SOMEONE sends you SOME info and you send money to it. How is that my problem? Can you prove that the owner of that account and the person who PMed you are the same person? I dunno. Lots of roommates around. Might have left a browser window open at the library (while I was teaching blind children to read). Could have muttered out login details in my sleep with a hooker. You never know!

Also, let's say you send money to an account, hypothetically. Prove that you never received bitcoins.

I'm DYING to see this.

See, around here it works like this - You say "HEY I NEVER RECEIVED THE COINS", then people say "Hey you. Prove you sent those coins or you're a scammer!"

In the REAL WORLD, you say "HEY, I NEVER RECEIVED THOSE COINS", then the legal system says "...He's innocent until you prove otherwise.".

Prove that...

1: The person who was in contact with you is me.

2: The account belongs to me.

3: The entire situation was set up and executed by me (As a human being and US citizen, not as an internet persona).

4: You received nothing in return for your money.

If you can do any of those things, I'll mail you a wad of bills.

Guess you didn't confirm receipt either...oh wait, you did.

http://gyazo.com/83c8d7ebc09707d7c62f27d30ce84608


And just as a heads up....although Theymos won't give out users IP's to random requests, he will for a police or court order, his own words.  He can expect that request shortly.

http://gyazo.com/b60476a1a631dbd2ee298f08f2b67f41

So, you didnt PM me a bank account and info to send $550.00 to?

I REALLY want you to prove that I'm the controller of that account, and that the controller of that account and the person who uses this forum account are the same.

No, really. I really want you to do that beyond reasonable doubt.

Also, I don't owe you anything. You keep asking me to "pay you". Pay you what? What have you done for me that warrants payment?

Sent WorldwideBTC 550.00 BoA transfer.

He claimed for days that is was not cleared, whn I know it was cleared that same day.  Refuses to pay.

Stay away.  I will be filing a report through my wife's office, if he slipped in any way, he will be caught.  If not, good scam asshole.

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