Topic: Would nations adopt a DIY approach post covid-19? (Read 289 times)

This is by far the biggest issue, the economies of the world are more interconnected than at any other moment in history and while this is great when things are going fine this is a problem in the case of a crisis like the pandemic we are facing, many people are still holding the hope that the vaccine is going to save us but as you say it is going to take simply too long so we have no other option but to adapt to the new circumstances, and that means a very important change in the way we used to do things and unfortunately this is going to have a huge impact on the economy and some sectors will suffer a great blow by those changes like tourism.

There will be an effect but with a small impact. Mostly because now more people are realising how low the fatality rate of COVID-19 is in the people age of 1-35.
All these services will be needed in the same rate as before COVID-19 started, even food delivery might have bigger shares in the whole food market.

It is true that online business when a pandemic like this is really needed because there are many who are still afraid to gather because this pandemic is difficult to know that the person is sick or not, because many do not experience signs that have been imposed by covid, and this is very terrible. but online business also for delivering goods needs for pandemic prevention because to buy fast food, there is still a sense of worry and it is better to do it yourself at home.

The fact that indoor farms are getting more famous in Japan tells me we could have a lot more of it in bigger cities as well in the future. For example New York, London, Paris, Madrid, Istanbul type of very crowded big cities could get it done. Offices? Maybe. But there are building farms now where you can grow crops much better and much more efficiently indoors where you could make a lot more profits as well.

I think this pandemic could make farmers lose to their competitions in the end as well. DIY for many things are getting easier as well when technology and youtube helps. You can get the gadgets anywhere you want and you can watch a youtube video on how to do something and that share of information is making a lot of trade work to lose to DIY as well and they can't overcharge anymore.

That will be good and it will be very important for some countries, especially the developing countries to try and adopt such method. We tend to neglect some things, but this situation has taught us a lot. There are many things we really need to look into. It’s just like where I live, the government doesn’t look into agriculture and prefers to import most things which is really bad.

A country where there are such things, I think the government should focus more on investing and helping their local farmers to produce those things that are being imported. It’s really going to be of help. Different countries may adopt different approaches and its effectiveness will be coming up to analyze only after some time and then most countries may try the most possible effective approach. This is how this globe stabilizes itself.

However, you should take into account that in the last 100 years (since the Spanish flu) there has been nothing of this magnitude on a global scale. We must also not just ignore the fact that COVID-19 is a highly virulent disease that spreads incredibly fast in uncontrolled conditions, as shown by the example of Italy, Spain, the UK, Iran, the USA and Brazil. With an average mortality rate of 12% (based on closed cases), it is still something much more dangerous than the common flu.


You are ignoring the economic effects of this pandemic, minor changes are not something that would be realistic in a situation like this, for he who does not learn from the past risks having the same thing happen to him again in the future. A vaccine is something that may happen in 6 months or a year, but its production and distribution will take at least that long. At best, we are talking about at least 3-5 years until everyone is vaccinated, and until then the world cannot afford to have a collective vacation of 3 months every year. Until an effective vaccine is found and most of the world's population is vaccinated, the world will have to adapt to a whole new way of life, which will have very big consequences the way the world economy will work.

You seem to be over exaggerating the situation in my opinion. Do you think that this is the first pandemic that human beings have had to deal with? There were far worse pandemics in the past.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/worst-epidemics-and-pandemics-in-history.html

The black death and the flu were some of the worst(Million times worse than Corona). What happened? Human beings endured and survived. At present, the flu is a common disease.

COVID-19 will cause some minor changes here and there, but nothing major in my opinion. Once everyone gets vaccinated, Corona will probably be just another common disease like the Flu.

Well, it is cheaper for one? Right now not everyone has enough money and they can't pay for everything and eventually we realized we have enough time that we could take care of stuff ourselves as well. I am not going to lie I didn't had to deal with all those stuff and do it myself but for 73 days in a row now I haven't ordered food from outside.

Now you might think that is not really a big deal but let me tell you this, I am a very obese person and I probably eat at least once a week from fast food places and order to my house, that's at least, average is probably 3 times a week from outside. To me 73 days in a row without eating fast food has been the longest in my life probably in 20 years or so. I realized I haven't missed it all that much at all so I am feeling totally fine. Covid19 changed way too many people this way.

I agree with you that people are going to go back to their normal lives as if nothing is happening, in fact we are seeing this is already happening already in some countries, but I think this is because the pandemic is not as severe as people thought it would be, and even if it is not under control the number of people in hospitals has remained pretty much constant for some time now even if the number of active cases has increased dramatically, however if the mortality rate was anywhere near the black death then I'm sure the world will change dramatically just as the black death changed the fourteenth century.

It would be logical to change the approach from complete dependence on someone else, to the country becoming self-sufficient in at least some basic things. The pandemic showed that in fact the whole world was dependent on China when it came to protective equipment, and the situation escalated to the point that shipments were literally hijacked at airports and diverted to other countries. If someone has learned something from all this, then some things will change - unless the policy that we should produce everything in China continues, because the cheapest labor force is there. So far, a good part of the world (especially developed countries) has acted like they live in a hotel with services that deliver everything they need, the question is whether they will change their attitude now - because there are situations where money can't buy something that is not on the market.


Such things primarily depend on the mentality of the people, some are skilled and like to do such jobs themselves which brings them pleasure and at the same time saves money. Those without skills will continue to seek services, especially when the situation calms down. DIY is actually a generally good approach, I hope people get a little more engaged about trying some things out on their own.

If nothing else everyone who has their own garden can try growing tomatoes, cucumbers, beets, peas or something similar. In addition to having healthy vegetables, working in the garden provides a great way to relax and relieve stress.

We may see more offices like these in the future - why go to the vegetable store when you can pick the same in your office

Life needs to go on, we can't stay in lockdown forever, that would mean the end of economy, businesses and any kind of progress.
But now after the worst part of pandemic experts now more about the virus and how it's spreading so if the second part comes, it might be easier and people will need to learn how to live with virus because we can't stop the whole world once again.
I think that everyone of us will need to.find own way how to cope with such situations if they ever repeat again.

I think its more like life along with pandemic rather than living post this pandemic as in our country the government started to make several relaxations with the number growing at a reasonably faster rate as they can't handle the economic worse which will happen because of the extended lockdown. So yes social distancing masks will be playing a huge roll in the months to come. This will not be over any time soon I think it might take around a year or so to return to the before pandemic level

we can still do something like disenfection before and after work or wear mask , gloves and other protective gears now tell me isnt that enough to protect your self from the virus and still continue living normally or working normally  ? the tasks said arent even public so its more safer , im mean they individually done only  .

diy is okay if you dont have the money or as long as you can do it yourself effortlesly  but if not then dont be shy to hire someone to do the job   .  

The truth is that we can’t continue to stay indoors forever, we are just going to learn to adapt to the situation. If we should continue to live like this in lockdown, then the economy of most countries will definitely crash. That’s why a lot of countries are now starting to ease the lockdown and letting people go back to doing their businesses. Even restaurants are starting to open and others are doing the same. I just believe that we will find a way to go through this situation without having to stay indoors.

Moreover, I am also believing that as time goes on the world will come up with the cure for this Coronavirus and will be able to deal with it once and for all.

Yes. DIY approach is what some people are already doing during this global pandemic and for me it's a good advantage knowing we are doing this of course with precautionary measures. It's hard to live life having this corona virus still around and knowing the fact that we don't know when this pandemic will end, DIY approach is a good option to start with.

It seems to me that this is not about an individual person, but about the production of the country. That is, whether the countries themselves will produce metal structures or order them from China.
It is impossible to predict what the new future will be.

The right language is not to do it your self but you are on your own. Each person takes care of their respective interests in building individual resilience both in the economic and food fields. For the problem of health security, all individuals and even the whole world must join hands on the basis of humanity.

Post-corona the challenge is to create independence before the supply and demand chains return to normal. Each individual or family is almost impossible to meet their own needs. If independence at the individual level cannot be created, we extend independence at the level of the neighboring community of life. We can begin to record each family about the products or services they can produce that ultimately can meet each other's needs in the community. Back to basic concepts such as ancient times consume what is produced and produce what is consumed is the wisest way before the economy gets back on track. Because today is not an ancient era, it has slightly evolved with the concept of community resilience.

I do not know how life in developed countries, in my country the home industry produces fast food, detergents, bath soap, dish soap, vegetables, freshwater fish. Although it is still a simple staple, it can at least ensure that members of the community do not starve. For products that the community cannot produce themselves can ask two people to register in each house and spend with extra tips. This will rotate the economy of many people and prepare an independent economic foundation in each community.



At the country level, the complexity of the problem is higher, when the global supply chain is broken, the unemployment rate is high and domestic consumption is also weakening, the government's challenge is to create labor-intensive projects that can pump demand with the aim of returning the heartbeat of the economy. When Corona was conquered and the recovery corona design was made the government could print money to fund the labor-intensive project with the main requirement of 100% in the country, there were no imports of either labor or raw materials and the project had to be layered so that many sectors lived.

We agree that the micro small and medium business sector is the sector that absorbs the workforce the fastest, this is the sector that must be considered by the government.

Should they do it : Yes
Would they do it : No

See am not trying to judge , but the developed countries do save a lot of money by importing stuff from the developing countries . As for the developing ones , it does account for a huge amount of their own GDP too , to actually provide stuff or to export. Due to huge population in some they do export cheap stuff and most spare parts are assembled in the developing nations due to less wage of the workers .

If the developed nations do try and do it all by themselves , they would actually need a different kind of industrial revolution.They will have to clear patches of land and set up factories . At the same time import the machineries and give job to a lot of people. It is not something that would happen overnight.

It would take time.

But the government always prefers the easy way out ..thus I said no they won't do it , the market will keep having small scale businesses but nothing the sort of an industrial revolution.
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P.S. Just want to share out of context that one of the AIDS drug is shown to reduce the recovery time of the Corona Virus disease and therefore we do have hope of this quarantine being over . let's see what governments will try and do after that.

DIY is already quite popular for the reason that in the era of super accessibility and information noise, people are increasingly choosing some creative activities as a hobby. It's unlikely that COVID will have much of an impact on this. Streams are also unlikely to rise because many who are looking for DIY content want to then repeat what they saw and the stream format is a lot of inconvenience for this (Yes, I know that then there are records but many who delete them).

Not quite, while developed countries such as US would be able to pull off an DIY approach, others won't be able to. US is a bitch, I think a lot of people are forgetting that.

DIY approach would only be executed by select few countries, who have the ability to. Thing is, everything is in a bad bad BAD state right now, DIY approach could end up causing more harm than good. Its better if Nations collaborate and work together, than to end up suffering alone.