Topic: Would nations adopt a DIY approach post covid-19? - page 2. (Read 288 times)

Countries are already making their own approach to this pandemic albeit the continuous warnings of the WHO to a possible second wave of the disease since they couldn't afford any more quarantines or lock downs. While the teachings of the 1918 pandemic re: social distancing and quarantines somewhat helped in slowing the disease, it also served as a hurting edge by aiding with the mass layoffs that's happening on every part of the world. As we know more on the nature of the virus, which population is vulnerable and which aren't, governments are preparing for the 'worst' that is to come since we can no longer afford losing money and risk a larger economic meltdown. Guidelines are already published on the slow but gradual return to the supply chains and other sectors of the economy while schools and academe are still barred operating and holding classes face-to-face.

At least though, this pandemic brought some interesting thoughts on the table. Cities with dense populations are no-go zones in the future that's for sure due to the fear of yet another viral outbreak, and dispersing the number of workers all throughout the country and promoting more growth on the rural areas. This might also mean that dying enterprises and industries might soon be revived due to the lack of work available currently. All in all this pandemic might help us redo the system and revisit the 'lost' parts of our society that has been long centered on cities with bustling activity and roaring skyscrapers.


Since no money is circulating on most countries currently, I believe that the Heckscher-Ohlin model would be observed and followed greatly in order to complement one country's needs to the other, making an equilateral trade without loss nor profit but just enough to sustain economies in the meantime. Harmony in trade relations is what's really needed with the current situation of our global economy. While the H-O model gives a somewhat good light of hope on countries with specific abundance in natural resources, certain countries in the Middle East would have to make do with what they have since their oil isn't as valuable as it was before all of this, making them reliant on their cash reserves to make some imports on what they really need.


You can call this the DIY era IMO since people can't go out and certain people with limited access can roam around for specific purposes, and as such leaves the task on their own hands. Laborious tasks such as what you've mentioned require the worker to touch surfaces of the different parts of the house, so there's the threat of the virus being spread here and there. But with careful application of aseptic techniques to make sure the workplace is clean and free of virus, in-house services shouldn't be a problem.

But yeah, I'm seeing myself learning some stuff that I previously didn't care to bother about since I have some people to do it for me. Just the other day, I was able to make my own study table (definitely not ordered from IKEA) since I can't see a reliable appliance/hardware store that can ship me one immediately.

There is nothing to be unclear about ending of the pandemic. The pandemic WILL end like all those previous pandemics. Maybe in few months, or maybe in years, but it is bound to end. Currently, we might not be able to get a "medical end", but we will learn to live with the virus. We won't be fearing it, like we do currently.
Yeah, some people might take DIY approach. Those fear the virus a "lot" might end up doing in house painting, all those plumbing and so on. Those who accepts the fact that the virus is here to stay, will hire people like they used to before, but this time will take necessary measures to keep themselves safe from the virus.

Hmm. I should've read up on the definition of airborne. I didn't bother to delineate the difference between something flying at you out of someone's gob, and something suspended in the air and lingering. Both seem airborne to me.

I agree. There's a lot to learn yet. Those facts that emerge are what are going to decide our future for many years to come.

This is very possible, humans I think are naturally inclined to block out possible bad outcomes, this stops us from constantly pondering the ways we can die and living in constant fear. However more people can become interested in prevailing health conditions, I read an article recently about the spread of infectious diseases between humans and animals being on the rise, it would be interesting to see how majority approach the situation.

AFAIK, there's no evidence to support the claim that the disease is airborne, if someone coughs or sneezes, the virus can travel a few feet before dropping to the ground, it can not travel much farther than this. However, there's very little we know about the virus as yet.

On an individual level, it may not have much of an impact. How nations would react may be different, I wouldn't trust myself to do my plumbing work, but a country can invest more in agriculture and grow their own vegetables rather than importing them, and this could impact economies and international trades

According to the WHO, the virus mainly infects people via droplets, and there isn't enough evidence to say it's airborne (see here). As for people getting sick after attending the church, there are, of course, differences between branches of Christianity, but in my country it's mainly Orthodox churches where there's the Eucharist pretty much every Sunday with everyone often drinking wine from the same spoon. Not to mention many people literally kissing the icons and other things in the church.
Even before the pandemic, there have been talks about the economic crisis being around the corner, and banks could be blamed for that once more (and even for basically not learning much from the first time). Here's just an example of an article in October 2019. So I don't think the pandemic is to blame for the crisis. It triggered the inevitable, definitely made it more serious than it could've been without it, but it's not the sole cause of the global crisis. As for DIY, people definitely started cooking more because of many places being closed, and some probably tried to fix stuff or make stuff on their own instead of buying it. I don't think, however, that this'll be the big trend.

It would have been interesting if everyone in the 14th century would have been literate and had kept a journal during the black death.

I imagine a lot would have come with far more pessimistic views on how the world will evolve, with every family trying to live it its own house in the countryside, with villages on lockdown and all of them surrounded by walls, without pets like dogs or cats or with huge bonfires burning all day long in the cities (yeah, we didn't know much about diseases at that time), many fearing that commerce will never be the same, that ships will never sail again and....here we are...

Humans have really a short memory span, what we think it's going to change our lives forever will be dismissed a few weeks later, just as you slow down below the speed limit when you see a crashed car and an hour later you're doing 100 in a 60 miles zone. All those precautions will be forgotten, 99% will forget they have claimed eating their own cooked meal is 100 times better than in a restaurant, they will forget they have sworn never to set foot in a hotel again or to travel to Asia. It might not be this year, but in two years everyone will again travel all around the world, shaking hands, kissing fellow workers, dancing half-drunk on the beach, and drinking from the same cup with the first girl they picked up in a rundown bar.

There will be no adaptation, there will be forgetfulness!


 

I also believe that there will no big effect on delivery services. In fact, in my country, delivery services are becoming in demand. People are afraid to go outside that is why many people are ordering online. Also, one reason is that fast food and other food businesses don't allow eating inside, you can only do take-out or delivery. As for online shopping, people are actually buying essentials online like face masks and alcohol. Although the delivery men are at the big risk of acquiring the virus, they just follow the protocols and do proper hygiene. Since they also need to work because that's the only way they can earn income during the lockdown.

I have heard in the news that while scientists are busy looking for the vaccine to stop COVID-19, we should also learn to adapt some changes and practice living normally (new normal) even though there's a threat of the virus. We can't just wait for the vaccine and do nothing, we also need to live and work. I bet during post-COVID-19, people would be more cautious about their environment and the people around them because this is what we need to practice.

Possibly people will approach DIY methods on possible things after this lockdown not because of the fear of virus spread just because of their economy status.People think that they can save money if get this work done by themselves.

Other than this we will back into normal life as before covid only we may asked to wear PPE on public places until there is clear vaccination for covid 19.

There is only so much you can do yourself. Some non-essential work might be postponed but if you have a sewer backing up you will call a plumber.

Anything more complicated like electrical work may need inspection anyway so no big benefit for DIY with regards to virus risk. Stuff that I can do myself and save some money I was already doing before the pandemic. No big change.

Eh? Of course it's airborne. How else do these church choirs who all die a few weeks after getting together catch it? They're not all going to touch the same surfaces. They are all going to breathe the same air.

Once things have settled down there'll be lots of talk about 'bringing manufacturing home' and then they'll realise it costs too much so they'll stockpile. Then they'll realise maintaining the stockpile costs too much so they'll deplete it. Then the cycle will begin again.

That is why genuine and unconditional love for others is important in any society. If you don't love much you will be reckless and self centered.

 So, you could easily run a society that genuinely love others:  love the CREATOR, humans and HIS other creations. If you genuinely love others you start living for others and doing what is good for their sakes.

I guess so? The virus spread is in all honesty, a responsibility of each and every one of ourselves, not the government. Yes, they put out rules and enforce distancing but really, people aren't stupid enough to not understand that. It's just that some people do understand that, yet they still don't do anything about it. It's kinda sad really, it's like we're killing our fellow countrymen because of our own stupidity (in all aspects).


I doubt it would that much. I mean, yea DIY skills are really nice and all but nothing beats professional work. Let's not beat around the bush and just say that most of our DIY works are actually just patch works instead of actually "proper" work. The said services would probably be temporarily available or severely limited instead. Home delivered services are still up and running on our country and it's working out so well with proper safety precautions, especially right now with the lockdown where people can't leave willy nilly like that.

Many countries are easing lockdowns gradually, I was listening to Donald Trump speak yesterday IIRC and even America is planning on opening up gradually as soon as possible; the virus is still in virtually all countries that was affected, but they can't remain closed anymore, they have to open up.

Now that's where "do it yourself" also comes into play, the government expects citizens to take responsibility at this time, most importantly for their health and safety, to follow guidelines, use face masks...and all other preventive measures as well; you have a duty to yourself now that the nation is opening up even when the virus hasn't been eradicated...so also "do it yourself" will apply in other areas of life, acquiring skills, doing what you can do to get your life and business/livelihood back on track, choosing essential services to use, etc, we'll have to learn to do a lot of things ourselves, as the government struggles to revive the economic situation.

Do It Yourself approach isn't a bad idea at all in fact, it can do some good things for us aside from saving money it can also teach us doing things by ourselves. Though it may affect the people whose income relies on these services and I think since humans are capable of adapting to their environment I'm positive if the DIY approach will be applied after this pandemic then these people can find a  way for their living diverting from one livelihood to another.

Somehow this pandemic can only cause this DIY approach in the meantime but as soon as the vaccine will be discovered then everything will be back to normal same as what they are prior to covid19 excluding the effect in the economy.

And for sure, those businesses that have been resume after the flatten curve result showed, they will experience a "new normal" activity to have precautionary measures. And here in our country that was already implemented, House Speaker, solons file 'new normal' bill.

The way of life is quite different after this pandemic. How hotels and restaurants will do their business after this lockdown is bit strict, like accommodating about 50% of the usual customers in restaurants and max of 2 persons occupancy in hotel rooms. I've seen such news recently. But at least we are slowly recovering from this situation.

https://www.untvweb.com/news/dot-mandates-maximum-of-double-occupancy-for-hotels-under-new-normal/

Very interesting question, I think for nations that really on such services, maybe it could have an impact. But at least here in my country, we are used to DIY so I doubt that it will have any influence whatsoever.

Food service though is different, it has taken off during this pandemic as they are allowed to bring food and other essentials to help people that are in a lockdown. And as far as the economy goes, we have ease the lockdown here, I'm seeing some stores opening, support systems are already there, so probably we can still thrive during this pandemic and we may see some movements that will help the economy stir at bit and see how it will go post pandemic.

I do think of the same thought too, if there will be an impact of services like this it would be just like a minor changes like for food deliveries, they will wear a complete PPE (gloves, mask, face shield) to protect them from contacting the virus also for their customer. In the post-pandemic, better to let go of the normal things you do coz there will be a new norms for everything and this is only thing that I would like after this pandemic.
If it was airborne then we might be just a dust now lol.

I don't see a huge impact on such home delivered services. Even if there's an impact, that will be temporary. Definitely people will have to adopt a new way of living post this pandemic time. Social distancing, wearing mask and use of hand sanitizers will become a norm till the time COVID is permanently removed from the face of earth. But the impact of home delivered services will be temporary, even if it happens in any way!

I thank to God because Covid virus is not airborne. So there's a way out if we follow the new rules of life!

Corona virus has impacted the world in many significant ways, and it has brought to the fore our basic human instinct: survival.
A global crisis is evident all around us, on news stations, articles, newspapers etc. Drastically low figures of stocks, businesses, GDP growth, [almost everything] seems to be on the decline, and all these points in the direction of a looming global recession.
As opposed to previous cases of recession; globally or limited to a specific country, which were caused by failure of banks, or a fall in the stock market, this one would be the result of a pandemic which slowed down global economies to a startling halt.

It is yet unclear when the pandemic would come to an end, or if we would have to adapt to live with it, but the reality is at some point the world would have to start moving again; we are already seeing signs of that in some countries.

What would be the situation, post covid-19?
One major goal of nations at the end of this pandemic would be to accelerate the economy, by encouraging spending, through providing loans to individuals and businesses, but nations are interdependent, with international relations playing a huge factor in the growth of an economy. Would this change and nations begin to take a more Do It Yourself approach?
While coronavirus is a global crisis, it has been tackled differently in various regions and we would have nations free from the virus, while others still battle with it, and some others still may have to adapt to living with it, how much of an impact would this have on international trades?

Asides natural resources, like oil and gold which nations possess inherently, other resources can be integrated in; Machine parts, food resources, etc. This could lead to greater internal investments on skills; and could increase employment, this would have more impact on nations with trade deficit. Although this would still have to be done in consideration of the Heckscher-Ohlin Model; which encourages nations to produce that which utilizes their abundant resources, but a heavy dependence on imports have allowed nations overlook possibilities that can be harnessed and maximized.

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Side note: Do you also think this would have an effect on an individual level? Services such as in-house painting, furniture moving, plumbing work, food delivery etc from outside sources, the fear of contracting a virus could lead more people to take a more Do It Yourself approach and what impact would this have on home delivered services?