Topic: Would this finally be a real Satoshi? CW lost the Kleimans case!!! (Read 1091 times)

Same here! I doubt it.

I think the only way we can be sure is to wait until 21 January 2020 when the funds should be released from the Tulip Fund and then keep close attention to related BTC addresses if there will be any funds moved. There is no way for CW to keep so much BTC untouched in his financial situation.

Of course, I don't believe in any of CW statements but if we pretend this is true with the Tulip Fund then he is still deeply in shit because of the latest court ruling and all taxes he would be owning after the BTC sale. If true then this will make his fortune significantly smaller, first 50% to Kleimans family and then almost the same for the taxes. Of course, there are still Australian authorities which are only waiting for the incoming money and other private people and companies CW scammed during the years.

The biggest nonsense CW keeps repeating is that he doesn't need any money but all he is doing so far is only for the money.

Craig Wright is a habitual liar and fraudster. He probably doesn't have anywhere near that amount of bitcoins if many at all and his claims of having them or at the very least so many were just to try bolster his obviously fraudulent claim of being Satoshi, because it's widely assumed he holds them. If he did have as many as he claims and from such an early time period he could have easily proven such and also that he was satoshi or at the very least a very early adopter by singing a message from some of the addresses he owns. He admitted he can't do that and came up with some bullshit excuse about this trust to try weasel out of proving it. So, sorry to say but the Kleiman's are probably entitled to 50% of nothing and even if he does hold substantial holdings he isn't ever going to hand them over and will come out with whatever BS to prevent that, but my guess is he just doesn't have them in the first place (or anywhere near as many as he claims) and the Kleiman's only went after him because of the lies he told about having them or being satoshi.

Because this guy is not stupid in the end.

Of course, I don't believe that he is Satoshi or that he is the BTC creator but I can understand why is he lying (or telling the truth) about these BTC addresses and Tulip fund.
I just tend to believe is his way to protect himself from the worst outcome possible which is a lost cause.

To be honest I still don't understand exactly how this Tulip Fund operates, whois the beneficient and if this is real?
It would be great if somebody can explain it to me. I think is the most important thing to understand the Kleiman's case. I have read a lot of articles and even scripts from court hearings and there is not explained what I am asking above. Where this Tulip fund is actually registered? Whois guarding it now? Is this even possible to check?
For me that are the questions, we need to answer to be able to understand this case better.

The court ruled out that CW has to give 50% of all BTC to Kleiman's relevants, so there has to be some proves that they were indeed involved in mining together.
If they are really in a fund or already sold on exchanges nobody knows but this is obvious that CW lost a lot of money on hash wars but not only.
He keeps struggling financially all the time and all his companies are registered only for the purpose of tax scams. I see such a picture when I look at his business story.

As always by CW there are more questions than answers.

Do you really believe that fool is saying the truth, if all that has been found about him is lie, then why do you think has such btc as he claimed, Craig might have maybe few bitcoin because he is broke and because bitcoin is costly now o accumulate much, and the bsv is still few, so all he is trying to do is to pump bsv to a value as high as he can go so that he can become that rich man he has always desired through crook.

For the fact that Craig is a public figure does not mean that he is reach. I have some friends, that when they speak I public for you, and you hear them even brag about their wealth, the president may even want to send for them, but all has been lie to create hype to achieve that which he wants to achieve or desire to achieve through bsv.

Latest news about the Kleiman's case and the court judgment that CW has to return 50% of all mined coins and intellectual property from creating Bitcoin toKleimans family members.

This is so good to see such outcome but from another side when I start thinking about it then I start to worry because the amounts of BTC are overwhelming and we can not forget that Kleimans family would have  to pay 40% in taxes from the received amount which can be the reason for price dump if they will have to sell BTC to pay the tax.

Is this another threat? Or CW doesn't have this BTC in the first place and there is no Tulip fund which releases this coins 21 January 2020? I want to ask you about your thoughts about this?

Sorry to say but because of comments like this one I want to close this thread. I wanted a discussion on some level and at the start, we managed to have one for a short time.

I would let it open for a couple of days but if there will be even more of such nonsense posts I would have to close the thread to not serve as a mega thread for spammers.

I thought that identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is a really important topic to discuss but forgot about trolls and fudders so next time I will open self-moderated thread if I would ever need to discuss these matter again.

I hope there is still a chance for quality discussion in this thread.

After a;; the noise made by Craig Wright, we still have someone coming up with some bogus claim or talks of being Satoshi. The only sure proof of being Satoshi is to move the Satoshi bitcoin. This guy is more or less trying to draw some attention to himself, same way CW did and (and maybe launcha coin down the road)

Who ever controls Money the FIAT Currency will Control the Bitcoin price too.


To push Up btc price u need usdt. 
There is Thether whales, who is the owner of thether company?  Not a Satoshi....



The real Satoshi is Federal reserve IMF and Fintech.
When you people realise that?


Or you decide to play dumb.. For Long time?

Just think about it brother.
If you are satoshi would you really tell it to the world?
You will become a target, there is no doubt about that. That could be the main reason why he is in hiding.
Another will be if you have a family, there will be no peace in your house for media will sure be there 24/7.
You will have to swallow all the verbal abuse and social abuses that will take place.

Lastly the funds, are you even sure you will have a part of it or will the government starts taking it.
If not, I am sure there will be a panic in the market and you will sell it for a dust after the commotion.

So why tell, just sell an amount where you could live peacefully  and mix it then say goodbye again.
Finally, for me everyone who will claim it is a fraud. They are just some insane dude who needs attention.

A lot of people now is taking the throne as Satoshi but none of them could give a legit proof without those fabricated stories they've gathered somewhere. If one of them could actually make a signed message and send it to @theymos then the story will just end automatically without these fraudster proving something that isn't reliable.

Don't agree with you at all this is a very tail and not a right story. Nothing adds up and to be honest his timings also flawed.

As I said I think is all made for the purpose to spread more news about new FakeSatoshi to make them irrelevant. Just look at how people start to react to this newses.

When the first one popped up this was very big news around the world, second and now third CW too but with each new one this starts to be just fun and no keeps attention to this anymore.

I am sure that is the main reason for this to make every new FakeSatoshi not important anymore.

Is curiosity really the only reason that you can point out?
Agencies want to get to him if they haven't already.
The media want to be the first to get him because it means money and popularity for them.
Thieves and all other scum want to know who he is for obvious reasons
The IRS would like to get to know him better too

Finally great news from Kleimans case!!!

CW has to pay 50% of all mined BTC back to Kleimans family and additionally 50% of the intellectual property.

Of course, CW (Faketoshi) has now the right to not accept and go further with court cases but the first one is already lost and the judge calls CW a simple lier.

This is so good to see such outcome but from another side, when I start thinking about it, then I start to worry because the amounts of BTC are overwhelming and we can not forget that Kleimans family would have to pay 40% in taxes from the received amount, which can be the reason for BTC price dump if they will have to sell Bitcoins to pay the taxes.

What do you think about this? Is this another threat? Or CW doesn't have this BTC in the first place and there is no Tulip fund which releases this coins 21 January 2020?

Lol   This cracked me up.

This new guy claiming Satoshi seems more convincing than Craig S Wright though. At least he tried to speak in a challenging way, with the attitude that might even makes people to end up believing him.

The problem is, with all these Satoshi Nakamoto springing up everyday, when the real Satoshi finally decides to show himself, nobody might believe him. That's if he hasn't been ignored already.

The writing style and presentation style in what that guy wrote are very different from what we saw from Bitcoin whitepaper and Satoshi's posts in forum years ago. From that difference, I do believe he is not a real Satoshi because one techsavvy is hardly to change their writing style as well as coding style.

Furthermore, what that guy blamed on losing bitcoin due to hardware replacement sounds very clumpsy, that I don't believe too.

Seriously though, I met the real real Satoshi at the pub yesterday. You must believe me because I said so.
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Nice one bro really or your joking hahaha. Can you share a picture of real satoshi if met him, because if I met him in a person the real bitcoin creator for sure I'll take selfie with him as proof and to show to the people I am lucky one because i met the real satoshi.






People want to know the identity of the the real nakamoto satoshi is curiousity and they want yo,who is the brillant mind create very useful digital money.

I don't really  understand why people are so interested in knowing the identity of Satoshi. If Satoshi wanted everybody in the crypto space to know his identity like we would have known that on the day the whitepaper was released.  All those claiming to be satoshi are just people who are just interested in gaining some attention in the crypto ecosystem. They are all fake...  The crypto space do not need this kinda claims...

I had to read the long text he wrote on his website, until my eyes are aching from reading and rereading to understand what his purpose was to tell every story he told, I must confess that he should be some short story fairytale writer

It does not make much sense what he told, it is not possible that he made the hard disk error, the mistake of giving up the project he created and that was in the beginning. he is lying


truth

Honestly the real Satoshi is a real smart guy and these guys don't even come close, all I see are opportunists trying to ride on his name for personal gain and not to the benefit of the cryptoworld as it would have been.

Is this going to be another ghost chase because this now makes things more complicated AFAIK.