Topic: Would you be interested in promoting Bitcoin projects/services for free? - page 2. (Read 929 times)

@Rizzrack and @Ucy
Let's stick to the local rule and keep this thread clean from such discussions. I only want this thread to be about those who are and who aren't interested in the possible advertisement services that could be offered. I am going to quote your posts and address your concerns in Forum advertising space for free signature/avatar advertisement.

What sort of project will that be if the people behind it don't make any money? How is it going to be maintained? Via donation or what? If they make money via donation for example that will kind of contradict this: There should be ways to sustain the project even if they are non-profit.

In regards to betting, I'm just saying that because the forum is filled with betting promotions. I need something different or unique

In principle any ad you promote will not matter if it is legit and not an obvious scam. I see a lot of users who get merit and rank up when they promote gambling campaign, this is proof that there are positive things that can be done while on any campaign especially if they care about the quality of the posts.

Quality posters are needed in any campaign, and I think free advertising needs them too. Spammers probably won't get much space in any campaign except for bounties which only require ad visibility rather than poster quality.

Pmalek, let me consider this free campaign if I have time later. I hope it helps even I'm not a quality poster. 

This is free community advertisement and is not supposed to make the organizers or the people involved in the promotions any money. However, if the developers or projects believe the community deserves some rewards, they have the right to think of a way to compensate the people. I previously suggested that it can be done with discounted services or special offers for Bitcointalk members, etc. 

Betting platforms and for-profit businesses shouldn't be the scope of these campaigns.

I'll be very much willing to do this as long as the projects are actually good. I however wish we can find ways to sustain it by tipping the advertisers once in a while, the project owners can also support with whatever they have when they become profitable, etc.

I just need great things to promote. Betting ads are beginning to look like spam to me as there aren't too many unique & interesting ones thesedays.

I have seen your proposal a few days ago. Do I think there should be a universal/standardized message verification system for SegWit? Yes. Do I have the technical knowhow to provide feedback, suggest improvements, go through the code, criticize? I am afraid, I don't. Writing something silly in such a serious thread isn't something I want to do. I am sure there are many other people that feel the same way. And there are those who might not want to admit it. All I can do is read through the posts and comment on what I think is wrong or what I don't agree with.   

I know that some people might consider this off-topic, but look at it from a radically different angle: If you want to advertise stuff for free, why don't you give your inputs on BIPs and upgrades to the Bitcoin Network? You are on a bitcoin forum after all, and it does not cost any money to do that.

You don't even have to be a developer or technically competent to participate in those discussions. The headlines and subjects of most of those initiatives are simple enough for the average user to understand.

I am seeing a major problem that is slowly growing bigger and bigger. It's that most people assume that since they don't understand how something works they think they can't give constructive feedback. This creates a loop, and eventually nobody else is talking about the proposals and they grind to a standstill. And it is not only limited to Bitcoin too, it can be seen in any software engineering space where further development depends solely on the advancements made by individuals around the world.

If you look in the archives of the "Development and Technical Discussion" forum and the bitcoin-dev mailing list, you can see that a lot of ideas have been proposed that have gotten literally no answer, and then the people who have proposed them have disappeared ever since. Simply because there is no dialogue!

The projects you guys are promoting are developed by small bands of people like you and I, and they also depend on feedback to keep going. If you shut off the feedback, one of two outcomes is going to happen: 1) it is going to die out or 2) if it is a more sustainable project it will become hardened by its own ideas to the point where it becomes a rogue project - and this has happened to quite a number of projects: From mixers and wallet software to mining pools [Hi Roger Ver] to even non-crypto projects such as Brave, some boffins wuld also include ElasticSearch (even Facebook and Google started with halos on their heads).

Or for an example that is closer to home, it isn't hard to see now a rift occuring in the network, because institutions and software are clinging on to old standards. Other people try to update these standards to improve the network, and get discouraged when nobody adopts them. Look at how many exchanges are still using Legacy addresses, for example.

This post isn't simply a wild biosphere of theory. I am making efforts right now to support the new address formats inside signed messages. But the problem I have is not a technical one, it's that nobody is giving feedback about anything. So how are people like me supposed to know if anybody agrees with the changes proposed?

So please, while you are busy making posts to meet your signature campaign quota, I urge you all to consider setting aside a few posts for constructive comments on these proposals. Remember, that the prices will only go up on the condition that Bitcoin-related work is further advanced.

Promotion will only be fruitful if corresponding amount of dialogue is made.  

I voted for yes, since I would like to hold bitcoin banners anywhere if possible but as some of others mentioned since I am already taking part in signature and avatar campaign sonI can't change it right away but the only free for now is personal text which is also occupied by bitcoin in it, so if you have anything for personal text then I would love to and in future I may wear avatar and signature as well.

Am currently free now. I was in that Betfury campaign and when it ended I decided to keep the avatar on. If you have yours now I will gladly wear it pending when I find a paying campaign that attracts me. I hope my comment clears the doubt?

This quoted part can have two meanings, so let me doublecheck. I can see that you are wearing a Betfury avatar but no signature, which makes me think you are currently not a participant of their campaign and you are wearing it out of your own will. Am I right? I am asking so that I know if I should add you to the YES or MAYBE list.

Yes Pmalek, I will gladly wear a free logo and avatar for what you are proposing whenever am not in a campaign like now. It is even something I sent @icopress a pm asking his permission to wear his own advert logo if he allowed it about a week ago to which he has not responded to. I like to support any business that is credible without getting paid for it once am free.

I haven’t been paid for a signature in years..

We are basically giving shitcoins away for near free right now, for fun, and to increase awareness of what you can do with dogeparty and counterparty..

Nobody ever wants to pay for my signature because I don’t consistently make a lot of posts, so yeah..
Feel free to let me know if something cool comes up that could use some exposure..
I might do it if I like it..

As long as I am not already involved in a running campaign, I am interested in taking part, so please put me down as "depending on availability" as well.



As far as I know, Pmalek hasn't yet been knighted by the Queen, so there's no need to address him as "Sir". 

Thank you, but no need for the admiration. I am just a bastard posting on an internet forum.

Since that is not the case right now and you are actively promoting a casino, I will put you down as a "depending on availability".

Since you can't wear an avatar due to your rank and we still have to see whether we will get a signature for Bisq or any other project we start advertising, I will place you in the same maybe category as CryptoHeadlineNews. Thanks!

This thread made me do a search to find out more about bisq, and I could see that it is highly recommended by forum members. Advertising it for others to find out is a good cause, and i am interested in doing that.
I can only wear a signature and personal text now and I will offer that. Thank you.

First of all, I wish to thank you Sir Pmalek for appreciating my avatar design. It was at least the little I could give to the forum, and I will be always ready to offer my services anytime for the growth and development of this forum. So in regards to the free adverts promotion, you can count me in, because I will be ready to promote any projects as long as I'm not in a paid signature campaign. Thanks 🙏

I have put your name in the YES category since your current campaign allows you to wear your own avatar and personal text.
Thanks!

There is one more thing I wanted to do before. In the original discussion, I mentioned:

I would like to see if this forum has people willing to help on this front as well. Users with a good social media following. I hate the word influencers, so I am not going to use that. Optimally, there would be people doing the promotion via social media as well. They advertise the same projects and Bitcointalk as the place where quality projects can get free promotion. 

I think it's great idea. Helping for new projects who don't have budget for promotion or their main goal isn't commercial sounds great. You can mark me Depending on availability. Now I'm in campaign and I can't have alternative avatar, but I can add it on my personal text and website link on my profile. Probably it's not very significant, but better than nothing.

Yes Pmalek, i will be interested in the free advertisement of good bitcoin projects whenever i do not have any commercial offer, so you can contact me when this goes live, and if i have no offers then, i will advertise the project for free. I am wearing one as my signature and avatar already for a week now, so i do not mind.

By the way, i like the avatars created by CryptoHeadlineNews for Bisq, can we start with that already? i want to wear one of them, the design is so beautiful.

Pmalek, feel free to contact me as one of the people who are willing if one day the campaign that I promote is finished. Right now the campaign requires me to use an avatar and it's a requirement I have to fulfill, but if one day the campaign is over then I might take a free job for a while as a form of support.