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June 25, 2022, 02:08:51 PM
The good news is that now many athletes are openly opposing transgender people in their competitions and this has already paid off. Recently, the swimming federation banned transgender people from participating in women's competitions (if they did not make the transition before puberty - a small indulgence, but I hope the ban will be complete soon). I see the society is already ripe to remove this nonsense.

That is a great move from the federation of one of the best sports in the world,I think the ban will be complete soon.Society has been created male and female by the supernatural power,God or selective nature,call it what you want but there is a reason why male/female was created otherwise the creator/nature/superpower would have also created a third gender,the transgender one but didn't do so,so there must be a valid reason for that.I honestly do not understand at all how a human being can opt to change their genre from male to female and vice versa,that is out of my understanding but maybe I am dumb and these are smart.Maybe we are near the apocalypse and these are valid signs,the world has become a pretty f*cked up place to live in.

As they say before, teenage rebellion was expressed in a pierced ear, then in a mohawk, and now it's a sex change  Grin
The fact that the world has gone mad is obvious to me. Because even if we share the theory of the gender spectrum by 100%, then there is still no logical reason for a trans woman (with a male body) to take part in women's competitions. This is exactly the joke when "a motorcyclist identifying himself as a cyclist won a race among cyclists."
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Thisel new just came out today about transgender allowed to join sports whichever they like whether its for men or women according to the German Football Association.

They can independently chose whether to plat for men or women according to Association. This is foorball though so theyre not gonna wear bikinis 😁

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10945639/amp/German-football-let-transgender-players-CHOOSE-play-men-women.html
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I wouldnt bet on this at all,even if it was available on every possible gambling market. I think its just stupid to consider making bets on any category of this sort. Also i dont know even if they wanted to how they would market this and put it in all of the sportsbooks
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Oh man, why do I have the gambling section on ignore?!  Fuckin' great topics like these just don't exist anywhere aside from maybe P&S.

If I was a gambling man, there's no way in hell I'd bet on transgender sports.  Why?  Because there's a reason male and female sports have always been separated, no matter what your opinions on gender are.  Men who aren't on androgen blockers or estrogens are, on average, stronger than females.  And if we're talking about professional athletes who train for their sport, there's no question men would have the advantage (on average, and if the sport depends on physical strength).

With transgendered people, all bets are off.  Someone could say they made a male-to-female transition, but with the politically correct environment we live in right now, who's going to even challenge that?  Ugh.  What a world we live in.

The good news is that now many athletes are openly opposing transgender people in their competitions and this has already paid off. Recently, the swimming federation banned transgender people from participating in women's competitions (if they did not make the transition before puberty - a small indulgence, but I hope the ban will be complete soon). I see the society is already ripe to remove this nonsense.

That is a great move from the federation of one of the best sports in the world,I think the ban will be complete soon.Society has been created male and female by the supernatural power,God or selective nature,call it what you want but there is a reason why male/female was created otherwise the creator/nature/superpower would have also created a third gender,the transgender one but didn't do so,so there must be a valid reason for that.I honestly do not understand at all how a human being can opt to change their genre from male to female and vice versa,that is out of my understanding but maybe I am dumb and these are smart.Maybe we are near the apocalypse and these are valid signs,the world has become a pretty f*cked up place to live in.
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I don't think so. It's a niche market so to speak. And even if it did develop into mainstream one day, it's going to take a LOOONNG time. Just considering the fact that there's still a part of the population that's against transgenders, you can already see that the market it has would be pretty small. Not that I'm saying the event is bad or anything, just that prejudice for it still exists. But yea, beyond that, if the game is entertaining and the competition exists, given time it should be able to build it's own market.
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I'm not interested in betting on their sports, however, if it's in my favorite sports and they will allow a transgender, then I have no choice but to put my bet as I don't want to sacrifice my wants to be entertained by the kind of debate on whether they are allowed to play or not.

Personally, I treat differently the sports that I just want for fun and the sports that I bet on because I'm serious when it comes to betting.
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I guess it doesn't matter too much at the end of the day it is a sports game and once they make an allow with these participants it doesn't matter because there's permission with it if this player has the capabilities to play with there's a good chance I will make a bet on it.
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I don't understand where this is going anymore but with the increasing number of transgender people wanting to be recognized, I predict that in the future there will be potential for transgender special sports to be created (we will likely see 3 sporting events (women, men and transgender)).

but if they are mixed against pure gender then I won't want to bet on it.

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I will love to do bet on this one . there are friends of mine that is also a sportsperson but not given a chance in showing their skills as they are discriminated in my country , But now that there will be a league for them ?
i am looking for this to put my bet supporting them and their sports .
i cannot imagine a sports that will be purely transgender than combining them with normal gender.
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Gamblers, of course, want to take advantage of all the bets and if they have information about a match of course, they will want to join. But if later during the match there are complaints or demonstrations about their rejection of the match, it may be postponed for a while. But we'll see what happens later and in the meantime, the casinos might as well see their odds if they host the event at their casino.
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Oh man, why do I have the gambling section on ignore?!  Fuckin' great topics like these just don't exist anywhere aside from maybe P&S.

If I was a gambling man, there's no way in hell I'd bet on transgender sports.  Why?  Because there's a reason male and female sports have always been separated, no matter what your opinions on gender are.  Men who aren't on androgen blockers or estrogens are, on average, stronger than females.  And if we're talking about professional athletes who train for their sport, there's no question men would have the advantage (on average, and if the sport depends on physical strength).

With transgendered people, all bets are off.  Someone could say they made a male-to-female transition, but with the politically correct environment we live in right now, who's going to even challenge that?  Ugh.  What a world we live in.

The good news is that now many athletes are openly opposing transgender people in their competitions and this has already paid off. Recently, the swimming federation banned transgender people from participating in women's competitions (if they did not make the transition before puberty - a small indulgence, but I hope the ban will be complete soon). I see the society is already ripe to remove this nonsense.
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Maybe someday, sports betting sites and online casinos will be interested in making an event about the match, but we don't know whether it will be allowed because some parties may not like the game. But like you said, if it's a smaller bet, then that's fine and I agree. This will likely be more complicated for regulatory bodies to discuss as it could involve local laws so it could not be easy to accept the event.
Well, they'll have to put it on their books if there's a demand and who doesn't want to capitalize and profit from it? Bookies will have it listed if it's necessary and there's a legitimate demand for it. But if it's just a sound to promote anti-discrimination and there's no actual demand for it, they'll have it listed temporarily but they will delist it later as it's just going to cost them money and at least they're trying to save the cost for their operations.
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Well I don't think there's many transgender out there and the reason they're transgender isn't for sport, but they want to make his looks like female/man and that's for money purpose or popularity. I think transgender do have extra treatment for his body, so they're not really free like the real gender.
We don't know, but it seems like some transgender people out there want to play sports but don't feel as free as men/women do. And maybe that's why they create an event or some club for them, like a club made for men/women. The purpose of each will be different, and we also don't know their goals and reasons. We can only hope that in the future, there will be no problems in each country that allows transgender so that everything can run well.
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Oh man, why do I have the gambling section on ignore?!  Fuckin' great topics like these just don't exist anywhere aside from maybe P&S.

If I was a gambling man, there's no way in hell I'd bet on transgender sports.  Why?  Because there's a reason male and female sports have always been separated, no matter what your opinions on gender are.  Men who aren't on androgen blockers or estrogens are, on average, stronger than females.  And if we're talking about professional athletes who train for their sport, there's no question men would have the advantage (on average, and if the sport depends on physical strength).

With transgendered people, all bets are off.  Someone could say they made a male-to-female transition, but with the politically correct environment we live in right now, who's going to even challenge that?  Ugh.  What a world we live in.
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I do not think that there will be no significance if the game involves a transgender or not- what matters is that the game is competitive and is available to all for betting.

There have been some discussions about allowing transgender people to participate to their respective sexes. Since a transgender person also involves the change of hormones and physical physique, there will be naturally some sort of gender bias in their participation to the events. Though this may be the case, I doubt that it would be of such significance to warrant this kind of prohibition.

In terms of betting, there really is no difference. In conventional sports, it often happens that one athlete (or team) dominates all the others by a large margin. But everyone understands that if transgender people participate in women's competitions, then most likely they will dominate there (for some reason, I have not heard of a single transgender who would show good results in men's competitions). Therefore, for the sake of justice, despite all the nuances, transgenders should have their own separate categories.
Transgenders in strength and physique are in a position below men and above women which I think should have its own category in every sport or competition as you mentioned, because there will be a balance of strength and physique or whatever is in balance.
but I don't know what sports are suitable for transgender because most of them are not serious and you're going to be an entertainment sport, and if I were betting I wouldn't because there's no point in doing thorough research on transgender. Because there are many more interesting and educational sports betting, and I can't imagine if there is a transgender sport there will be a generation.
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I do not think that there will be no significance if the game involves a transgender or not- what matters is that the game is competitive and is available to all for betting.

There have been some discussions about allowing transgender people to participate to their respective sexes. Since a transgender person also involves the change of hormones and physical physique, there will be naturally some sort of gender bias in their participation to the events. Though this may be the case, I doubt that it would be of such significance to warrant this kind of prohibition.

In terms of betting, there really is no difference. In conventional sports, it often happens that one athlete (or team) dominates all the others by a large margin. But everyone understands that if transgender people participate in women's competitions, then most likely they will dominate there (for some reason, I have not heard of a single transgender who would show good results in men's competitions). Therefore, for the sake of justice, despite all the nuances, transgenders should have their own separate categories.
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This is a tricky situation. Most of the transgender athletes identify as female. But they can't be allowed to compete with biological females, because in that case the trans athletes will have an unfair advantage over the other participants. Creating a separate category is out of question as well, since the population is not large enough to justify that. The only remaining option is to ask them to compete along the male athletes. The trans athletes are not going to like this idea, but it is the only workable solution to this issue.

Several sports federations have even started a study on the participation of transgender athletes and the results of a vote conducted at the World Aquatic Federation (FINA) stated that the participation of transgender athletes in the women's event was prohibited.
The right step is to compete with male athletes, although transgender people don't really agree.
As athletes should not be deemed to have an unfair or disproportionate competitive advantage because of variations in their gender, physical appearance and/or transgender status.
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This is a tricky situation. Most of the transgender athletes identify as female. But they can't be allowed to compete with biological females, because in that case the trans athletes will have an unfair advantage over the other participants. Creating a separate category is out of question as well, since the population is not large enough to justify that. The only remaining option is to ask them to compete along the male athletes. The trans athletes are not going to like this idea, but it is the only workable solution to this issue.
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Maybe someday, sports betting sites and online casinos will be interested in making an event about the match, but we don't know whether it will be allowed because some parties may not like the game. But like you said, if it's a smaller bet, then that's fine and I agree. This will likely be more complicated for regulatory bodies to discuss as it could involve local laws so it could not be easy to accept the event.
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Many factors for me, if I don't have an idea on what sports they're going to play then that's a no. And even if I know the sports they play and I have no idea about the participants on those sporting events, that's still a no. Unless I want to yolo and want to try betting on them with smaller amounts then that's totally ok. It's interesting that they also have sporting events, this gives no discrimination at all but if it relates to our money and bets, I think we're having a time to think if it's worth it to bet or not.
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