Topic: Would you bet on transgender only events? - page 4. (Read 635 times)

I doubt that such a possibility ever existed, since it is unlikely that bookmakers are so stupid as not to understand that a man who calls himself a woman is much stronger than real women.
In fact, you can bet on anything (even transgender competitions among themselves), the only question is whether it is profitable or not. I do not see any arguments in favor of the fact that it will be more profitable than betting on regular competitions.

I think it's better that they're in a separate grouping, because there is the potential for all sorts of complications and it would be unfair to women to be competing against somebody who was born as a man. Everyone should be free to choose what they want to be, however it should not impact on the fairness of the sport for other groups. It might be rather difficult to get a team going for some countries as it is something relatively few people are interested in doing and of those people there is a whole world of sports available. It might work better for individual games like tennis or golf, but women's sport has only really started to break through heavily (at the top end / televised level) in the last decade or so, it could be a uphill struggle to get recognized and rewarded.

Personally, I wouldn't support it. I say this with the understanding of the damage trans athletes do to classical women's sports. It must be very demoralizing for these young women to lose their scholarships.

I never looked at player or specific games except football when I used to gamble. In a certain day when I am in good mood, was feeling lucky, I used to log into my betting account and try betting in different sports. I used to wait for special events like in EPL to bet on Liverpool or in big matches. But most of the time my regular betting pattern was in random events. I used to chase odds. Lost a lot too.

Considering my betting pattern I would not mind even if it was an event for aliens too 😉

Anyway into the topic, not all transgender have physics like men. So having them with women does not mean that they will have advantage. Even with men we can argue the same. One who has men physic should competition in men events and the one who has women physic should go with women. But still it does not solve the problem entirely. The possibility for to be in the middle can not be ignored too. It's complicated after all.

South Park has already made an episode about this argument in 2019 (Season 23 E 7 "The Strong Woman Competition"), and it has already happened that famous Olympics have been questioned about their "nature" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya

Probably we need to wait a bit before there are many tournaments and people joining this kind of tournaments, I have some doubts these can become "popular event"...
If this is a league made "only" of transgender there is not any advantage for punters

The main purpose of the sports is to promote fitness, so I think that having transgenders vs biological women would be unfair. If it's not fair then they should find a way to fix it. In most sports, there are rules, and those rules are for a reason. If we love the sport then the rules shouldn't matter because the game is supposed to be fair!!

For this game, I think they should allow transgender to play together but not against biological women. It can have an unfair outcome if it's just the males against the females or both males and females.


Yes if the bookies offer good odds

The truth is regardless of the change of a transgender, such individual still has the strength of his/her original sex. There should be special sports league or competition for transgenders to promote fair play. Although they might have low audience or sponsorship, but they might still attract fans. I don't think their population would increase to attract more attention to their league. But betting is all for entertainment and profit making. If they offer quality services and bonuses, people would definitely bet on them an derive fun and make money.     

If the matches would only be between both transgenders, then that will be fine but if it's transgenders vs women, I guess that will be too unfair. Transgenders have stronger stamina than biological women. It won't be fair so I won't bet on it. If it will affect the fairness of the game, then they shouldn't allow it. If they want to run sports for transgenders, they have to make sure that it won't take advantage of women's feminity.

Although it's not moral, due to the inequity, it would be profitable to bet on transgender athtletes when competing against women. But to bet in transgender category matches is tricky like any other category, because they are playing from equal to equal. I don't know how is the demand of the public for transgender matches right now, but I have the impression it's not so popular at a point sportsbook would introduce those matches in quantity.

In fact, I only got aware about transgender athletes because they punched women so hard, that they became popular over the whole internet quite fast through the public's indignation.

Biologically they would ofcourse have a different physique which also means that these events won't be fair. Transgender women need to have a different event perse, what we can include might be biologically women which would eventually make the whole situation calmer for them but then the authorities do need to include them as well. I do understand the whole idea behind them being discriminated but at the same time this might be a discrimination for the women in that particular event. Even though men and women have seperate physique, muscles etc.. they also hold every right to be what they want to be  , if they do have trans. Specific events I do think the whole world will enjoy it equally.

I do not think that such a market will exist - there are too few participants for someone to give the opportunity to bet on such events. Plus, we all understand that as soon as transgender people get their own separate category (and can not get an advantage over women), they will lose a lot of interest in competitive sports. I don’t want to offend anyone, but everyone understands why there are so many transgender people in women’s sports now - they just get victories for free.

hi,
The issue here with your approach is that you mix things up, first the inclusion issue, then the betting issue...etc.

The point is that we are on a betting board and I think the focus is for example knowing that Caitlyn Jenner is going to play a golf tournament and her odds are "good," "bad" or somewere this is such a thing , point.

So, thoughts over if it is right or wrong that this is allowed, if you would bet or not, because of the "taboo" theme, religious, biological, etc., This is are opinions that should go to another place (board) imho.

Other sports organization should follow them sooner.  It is really unfair for a biological female to compete with transgenders because of the obvious reasons and proven research that transgenders have a physical advantage over natural women.


There will be some organizations that will try to market sports organized for transgenders but I do not think that they will succeed anyway.  With the number of transgenders involved in sports, I do not think that organized sports for them will be that interesting.


This is one of the cases where some of the humanity who is in authority took a dumb step just for entertainment.          

After the internet became easier to access, more and more popping up on various social media of the transgender community, and I was quite surprised
that there were more people supporting transgender than I thought. So I believe that in the future there will be more and more fans of transgender
athletes. Therefore it would be better if transgender has its own sports competition and not combined with women. If there is already a sports competition
for transgender and it has a lot of fans, the bookies will definitely open bets for that competition. Since for me it would be very interesting to try
my luck betting on transgender competitions, why not just give it a try.

I don't know how transgender competitions can be different from regular competitions, because usually they are just women's competitions. And there have already been complaints about transgender people winning women's swimming or powerlifting competitions. I don't think there's much interest in such competitions, so they're unlikely to be popular with gamblers. Especially the odds on transgender people are likely to be very low.

Why not? I see some users here that might against the transgenders but for me it really depends, I mean why not especially if the game is really entertaining and the odds was really that good but it looks like a new news about a transgender that's been banned to the women's competition it is understandable because scientifically speaking there's really a difference between women and men bodies and he would greatly have advantage on that.

There could be a good market for transgenders if given their own event not inconveniencing the women sports. Bookies are out for their money if transgender sports gets fans and interest then bookies will be left with no choice but do delve into creating bets for them. For me i bet on what seem feasible and predictable if that become their case then a big yes

This is a hot issue today due to some sports organizations banning transgender women from competing in different women's sports. I think it started to became a very very serious issue when transwoman swimmer Lia Thomas was winning tournaments including beating a 2020 Olympic silver medalist. I thought that it was only a matter of time before sports organizations starts making serious actions. And so it did happened and I expect more and more organizations to follow. We simply cannot argue with science.

I agree with these sports organizations to ban transwomen from competing in women's sports. I am a long time huge fight fan and I noticed the discrepancy years ago when a trans woman named Fallon Fox competed in mixed martial arts. She's not really special and was nearing 40s when she started in MMA. But I felt like she won her fights because she's got a man's body. She was stronger and punches harder despite her age. Although she lost once but it was against a future UFC fighter (best mma fighters in the world/special fighters). In Fallon's last fight, she broke her opponent's orbital bone, made its face a mess and was concussed.           

I am not against transgenders. I think there is still a good market in sports for them. Will I bet on transgender games? It actually depends on what sports and the excitement level it brings. I am not against it. 

Not all transgenders have an advantage over biological women, regardless to eliminate ambiguity, a separate category should be created for athletes in that category to avoid a situation where a man who who is not doing well in the male category deciding to seek better opportunities as a trans in the female category. A new category will create new audience, and new channels for betting sites and gambling casinos to make profit. I may not immediately bet on their games, but certainly there are persons who will, and maybe with time, as they gain acceptance, others like myself may try betting on their games.

I'm not against transgender or something in related which answering the question if I do make some bets? Of course if I could see and know their past games or statistics because that what matter the most where games you do know and the players involved and their history and other related facts.Doesnt matter on what's the gender as long it do suits your interest and preferred sports and knowledge then thats what really counts.