Topic: Would you eat your Mother to stay alive ? - page 2. (Read 1900 times)

#protokol

First thing : You are full of shit.

Now lets me answer you even if i know that talking to an atheist is a real waste of time.

Even if I've already replied to your question (read my recent reply).

Anyways you said "if the ONLY thing stopping you from robbing, raping and killing your fellow humans for personal gain is the fear of hell and the wrath of god, then that makes you a pretty psychopathic person. "

You dont know shit about this world (Funny you will be shocked soon...) Anyways  for me Yes if there is no god i will NEVER lets anyone to be rich and im poor, I will NEVER sleep hungry while you have food, and i will NEVER lets you have anything better than me, Cause use your little mind stupid, IF there is NO god than why the fuck would i lets you be better than me ? Give me one reason ??


it's because i believe in the other life, its okay for you to enjoy this life cause god promised what better inchalluh but for you only hell after you die so enjoy your life being an atheist.

And as i said god is stopping lots of people from hurting/ killing each other.


And funny you dirty human eater:

That video is terrible. The speaker uses fallacies to propagate false truths. Just in the first 3 minutes he tells a member of the audience that he is religious when the guy specifically said he doesn't believe in religion, just a "power". This could be any power, a pantheist idea of perhaps the laws of physics being a "power". That does not equate to a religion. Then he just says "we need to believe in god because he created us". Circular bullshit logic.

You CANNOT prove god through scientific means, that goes against the whole idea of faith and the nature of god. If you could prove god in these means, it would not be a god.

Anyway, the point about robbing is really stupid. Agreed, some people (sociopaths/psychopaths) wouldn't care who they robbed. But most morally sound people (myself included) would say that robbing someone actually would affect me negatively, as I experience something called "empathy". This is the key point that the speaker in your video doesn't incorporate, and it's very important to humans success on this planet.

If I was to do something bad to someone else, I would feel guilt and remorse, as I would empathise with them and their family. I don't need belief in a sky fairy to have empathy to my fellow human. That's why us humans are so succesful on this earth. In fact, atheists tend to be much more tolerant than radical religious people (eg Westboro Baptist Church, Scientologists, radical Islamic terrorists etc.) When was the last time you heard of an "Atheist terrorist attack"?

As for his last point about Hitler and his punishment, that is fucking nonsense. He's basically saying that "Hitler burned [sic] 6m Jews, but just burning him is an unfair punishment, because that's burning 1 person vs 6m. That is why we have Hell, where we burn him once, then give him new skin and burn him again and again for eternity"

That logic is ridiculous. There's no evidence for Hell, and we frequently see good people die and bad people become succesful. If anything, that's a better argument for the non-existence of god, rather than a weak argument for the "usefulness" of hell (which has yet to be proven to exist).

I could just make up a horrible place (let's call it SuperHell) where bad people go when they die and get punished for eternity by the SuperDevil. That explains why bad people get away with bad things, because then they go to the SuperHell for eternal damnation! Lesson, don't do bad things. I made that up, but it's no different from the guy's argument in the video.


Anyway, the moral of the story is, when people are dead, they're dead and it doesn't really matter whether they get eaten or not.
The second observation, my friend bararily, is if the ONLY thing stopping you from robbing, raping and killing your fellow humans for personal gain is the fear of hell and the wrath of god, then that makes you a pretty psychopathic person.

To be clear, I'll ask you again to answer my hypothetical question:

If you DIDN'T believe in god and knew for a fact that god and hell didn't exist, would you murder, rape, rob and even eat people with no remorse whatsoever?

I await your answer, a yes or no would be fine.

You dont understand son, without religion you will be dead by now , and also you are very stupid or a kid lets me explaine a litle to you:

I will give you a simple example:

Why robbery is bad Prove it?

Please answer this than watch :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsLsatOhnvk

You have so much to learn, But i garantee you that without religion lots of people would be looking for you, and your meat will be sold on alphabuy and maybe on amazon.com.

And if you are talking about me than no i will not eat or hurt anyone even if there is no god BUT if i see that everyone is evil than i will make sure to fuck them right and fight for my self.

Wow. So the only reason you're not a cannibal is because you believe you will be judged by god if you commit such a sin? You believe that god's wrath is the ONLY thing that stops you from commiting murder and cannibalism? That's insane.

Hypothetical question then: If you DIDN'T believe in god and knew for a fact that god didn't exist, you would murder and eat people with no remorse whatsoever? If that's true then you're a fucking sociopath my friend. I don't believe in any god, but I don't do things like this because I have my own moral standard, the main moral being "don't do unto others what you wouldn't want done to yourself". I haven't killed or eaten anyone alive by the way, and not because some book written by some ancient scholars told me it was bad - I worked that out on my own  

An other thing : If you're a good son you wont lets your mother die of hunger, since its okay for you to eat a human , you should cut some parts of your body and feed her.

You are an evil dirty human eater.

Again i feel sorry for your mom, What a son, and i'm done!

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the discussion is based on the fact that there are no other forms of sustenance easily available (according to the line in the OP: "until alternate supplies can be found")

Of course you would look to gather plants/hunt animals first - the dilemma here (if you hadn't gathered it yet) is that your mother's body is the only nutrition available.

That's the whole point of this thought experiment.

Because I know there are some options in front of me and eating a dead body would be their last. If it was a plane crash on an island, most islands have trees, weed and plants, I would go there (eating those). Not making my first option; chewing someone's arm or thigh.

If I was on a ship/boat with a dead body, I would look around me for fish or seafood before eating that person. At least, I could tell myself afterwards that I tried my best to survive and could live with what I did for the rest of my life.

"Why sacrifice your own life for a dead piece of meat?"  

Short answer: GOD but im sure you dont believe in him so this answer cannot be accepted by you, I understand anyways if i wasn't a muslim or lets say a GOD believer i would be very VERY happy to eat you alive or dead to stay alive infact i will be right now doing some things to be rich and powerfull.

I believe in god and its the ONLY reason that stops me and LOTS of believers from doing bad things like eating a human.

Mr human eater, i see your mind is fucked up and the problem is your soul needs a god and i really feel sorry for your mother.

The son who ate his mother to stay alive under the name of honor.

OR

The son who died beside his mother under the name of love and honor.

Good luck.

So you would rather die, than "dishonour" someone's dead body by eating it. Resulting in two dead people rather than just one.

If I was the person who had just died, that you were refusing to eat, I would find the refusal of you to eat me very disrespectful. If I was the mother of the person who had just died, I would find your refusal to eat the person very disrespectful.

Why sacrifice your own life for a dead piece of meat?

OK, serious answer:

No, I don't think I could bring myself to eat another live human, to me that is simply immoral because there is a chance they might survive. I don't condone murder.

However if the person is dead, I see absolutely no problem in using their meat to keep as many of the survivors alive as possible. They're dead, they don't care what happens to them. And if I found out that my mother had died in a plane crash, and after her death she was eaten by the survivors which led to their rescue, I would be proud and happy that my mother's meat had saved the lives of others!

I see the issue in a similar way to organ donation - when you die you may as well donate your shit to other people who need it. You're not gonna need those organs any more, so why not save some lives by donating them to someone who can use them?

As I said before and I say it again, NO. Either it's my mother or any other person, I would rather drink from the sea or chew some tree leaves than dishonouring someone's dead body by eating it, even if it was a "survival" situation. This would vary from person to another, but personally, for me, it's about one's will.