Topic: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR? (Read 828 times)

We're on the bitcoin forum, what do you expect when you ask this question, OP? Just like hundreds of previous threads asking about choosing gold, real estate or bitcoin, I have not seen anyone brave enough to say they would choose gold or real estate over bitcoin. I don't know what everyone out there will choose but everyone on this forum will definitely choose bitcoin and bitcoin, nothing more and nothing less.

Everyone has reasons to justify their choices, and for the most part I see people emphasizing that they have full control over their assets when investing in bitcoin. But I personally choose bitcoin because I think its upside potential is better than MSTR.

I'd much rather hold the bitcoin myself, than invest in MicroStrategy. Don't get me wrong, it's great MicroStrategy and Michael Saylor are investing in Bitcoin and bringing it a lot of attention, however, investing in MicroStrategy is still trusting an intermediary. I want to hold the coins myself.

It's not that I'm not interested in investing in $MSTR, but after I compare it with the appropriate investment principles, namely full control, not complicated, not involving private parties and also not wanting any tax supervision, of course Bitcoin is still one of the most relevant for me. past until now and in the future, Bitcoin will remain the only investment option that I cannot give up. My wife and I discussed various asset options to choose from but in the end we agreed that Bitcoin fit our desired investment style for a long time. $MSTR is growing because the people behind it fully support bitcoin investment and I'm not necessarily saying it's good investment advice but because it's a matter of taste that can't be forced.

Does anybody know where MSTR store their coins? Is it in Coinbase, like the majority of the ETFs?

MSTR will get richer and will have more Bitcoin with my money to invest while owning Bitcoin is going to make me richer if ever Bitcoin shoots a better price and at the same time, I have the full control of my own asset. It sounds good to those that lack of knowledge about investing in Bitcoin and think that having a portfolio manager looks better and will make their portfolios perform better but to be honest with this, there is no difference and so much better when you are the one controlling your own asset, Bitcoin.

If I've got that option, I'll just take bitcoin anytime of the day, no matter how attractive MSTR stocks is because with bitcoin, you're going to be more comfortable into investing because it's your money and you have a control over what happens to it, MSTR stocks is just like bitcoin anyway, their growth in the market is heavily tied to the growth of bitcoin so why go with something that has a middleman in it. Maybe if the choice was a different cryptocurrency, I would've opt for the MSTR stocks since that's more stable than most altcoins out there but what should influence me the most is how much would I invest in bitcoin or the stock, if I'm given the choice of a million in MSTR stocks and 100k in bitcoin, I might just choose MSTR.

I'm looking at putting my Roth IRA into MSTR.  In general, I like Roth IRA's.  Tax free for my lifetime, plus 10 years for my kids after I push the daisies, and I am alble to HODL BTC in my Roth.   Standard IRA's are terrible, in my opinion.  You'll have RMDs and the "M" is mandatory.  That means that goverment will take a huge chunk of your sats by gun point.

Problem with my lovely stack in my lovely Roth is that I can't put it in cold storage.  It's against the rules. (Note - unchained has a great solution for Roth IRA and cold storage, but they won't take me b/c I do not reside in the US). 

So I'm left with my Roth custodian - DirectedIRA.  Nice enough folks there, but I have to keep my sats on the gemini exchange and also have to pay $400 per year.  Now we've got spot ETF's, so I have that as another "not my keys" option to get financial BTC benefits, if not the autonomy.  I think that the ETF's are less bad than keeping it on gemini.  But now I'm thinking that if I'm using a brokerage account, then I might as well pass on the ETF's and take the ride with guru Saylor.  It's like buying BTC on leverage, but MSTR has access to cheaper capital and it lowers the margin call hazard. 

BTW - I know it doesn't mean anything, but I already dipped my toe in the MSTR waters and it popped 17% in just a couple of weeks. 

Any other thoughts from you guru's?  What do you think about Roth IRA's and if you're using one, how are you pairing it up with BTC?

In the long term, BTC has outperformed most stocks in the market. We can compare BTC with S&P500 and DJIA to see this, but the story will be different when comparing BTC with BTC-related stocks like stocks of BTC mining companies, COIN and MSTR. Anyway, this doesn't matter because even if you prioritize profits, you also have priorities related to asset security and peace of mind during the investment process.

We can expect long-term growth in BTC price while not knowing what could happen to MS or Coinbase next month because they are still just companies run by a few people. I respect your portfolio and believe it is a reasonable portfolio from a wise decision!

Of course I will choose Bitcoin. I'm a crypto lover, I'm not a fan of stocks.
Even MSTR is great, it is not the same as Bitcoin. MSTR can be stock of one of the popular companies in the world, MicroStrategy. But it can't be as flexible as when we invest in Bitcoin. Analyzing the potential of MSTR will be also different from Bitcoin. Honestly, I'm not familiar with stocks, I'm familiar with crypto world. So, no doubt I will prefer BTC over MSTR.

Both have the risks. I don't really know MSTR but I think the risk will be the same as investing on most stocks of common companies. Investing in BTC can be riskier but I can deal with the risk in Bitcoin investment. Meanwhile I don't have an idea to deal with the risk on MSTR investment.

If financial feasibility allows, both approaches will be incorporated into my strategy. MicroStrategy, a reputable company with a proven track record, prioritizes safeguarding its reputation. Moreover, they possess diverse investment opportunities beyond Bitcoin. With their capabilities, they can aptly make sound decisions for investors, provided they are inclined to do so. Opting for their services not only grants access to their expertise but also empowers investors to actively manage their portfolios at any given time.

Of course, everyone's investment taste is never the same and we need to respect each other's choices, not criticize other investments just because we don't choose them. Honestly, I'm still more focused on profit than decentralization or privacy because if I don't have the money then decentralization doesn't mean anything to me. But I still bet on bitcoin and believe it will grow better, faster and bring me greater profits than any other investment including stocks of large companies.

Everyone has their own criteria for profit and risk, even decentralization. If you prioritize decentralization, you choose BTC because BTC is the most decentralized asset in the world. Those who want higher profits can choose COIN or MSTR if they really believe that these securities will increase in price more than BTC in the future. Traditional investors prefer the simplicity they are used to, and they choose spot BTC ETFs and COIN + MSTR.

I think we are different, and we will have different choices. I respect all choices because in the end, each investor will enjoy their own profits or losses.

To be fair, when investing in bitcoin, we don't need to worry about the future of Coinbase or MicroStrategy, but we will need to pay attention to the future of bitcoin. Because the future of bitcoin has no 1000% guarantee that it will be absolutely safe and always bring us success, and it can be said that everything has risk. But because we hate centralization and when we invest in those companies, our assets will be controlled by others while bitcoin gives us privacy and full control. Therefore, choosing bitcoin will be more correct and safer.

Firstly MSTR is simply business   which would be finance based on the profit realised if the reverse is the case the business crashes. Investing and buying of her stock is way much risky than investing in Bitcoin which is decentralized and one how control over there investment.
Self-Custody is the only means one can use while investing in the cryptocurrency market not investing in third party system while would I want to invest in stocks owned by exchanges, Coinbase failed from the market after massive investment put in for there NFT , MSTR has good capital structure for her investors and is accumulating more Bitcoin, I think those that  invest in MSTR are in for profit making over there stock in a shorter time range and careless over managing there portfolio themselves.

I would invest in Bitcoin not MSTR.

If you're in this community then buying an ETF over actual BTC seems backwards. This was obviously targeted at the mainstream.

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Also pls be respectful

Coinbase and MicroStrategy are companies with different products which can be related to Bitcoin or can be expanded to more than Bitcoin, like cryptocurrencies and other Technical products.

When you invest in stocks of Coinbase, MicroStrategy, you are investing in more than Bitcoin. You are taking bigger risk that those companies will continue their successful business and even have belief that they will expand their companies bigger and more successful.

If you want more safety, invest in Bitcoin only and you don't have to mind about future of Coinbase or MicroStrategy. Not all their products will succeed like Coinbase spent massive budget to build their NFT marketplace which failed.

Coinbase NFT halts artist drops as 24-hour trading volume barely reaches $100
Coinbase's NFT Marketplace Gains Fewer Than 150 Users in First Day Open to Public

Now, MicroStrategy(MSTR) seems to become like COINBASE before, where COINBASE have these stocks while they are a cryptocurrency exchanges.
Before,  a lot of people telling that why buy Coinbase stocks where you can buy Bitcoin instead as their stock price sometimes correlate with  Bitcoin price.

MSTR is a listed stock, it is not decentralized. Decentralization is not a need for traditional investors, and they are also buying spot BTC ETFs instead of BTC.

As a person who cares about decentralization, you choose BTC. On the other hand, from an investment perspective, MSTR is making huge profits in BTC in the same period of time. I think each investor will have the most suitable choice: BTC, or MSTR, or BTC + MSTR

I just checked the result of this poll and out of 25 votes, 21 were for Bitcoin and zero for MSTR. It's very clear that people knows well that Bitcoin is the safest and wisest way to go for. Saylor might be a genius guy but he is not as reliable as Bitcoin. Microstrategy and Saylor no doubt has a lucrative portfolio but we don't know at what price and when they quit Bitcoin. Previously we saw Musk doing same thing. So that's why majority are with Bitcoin nor with any personality.