Would you like to have an app for Bicointalk.org

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Quote from: libert19 on August 05, 2019, 10:09:06 PM

It's not about typing, rather quoting, snipping and doing some advanced reply things are bit of pain.

By the way, I just registered on (https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/) which uses Epochtalk. It's little conveninient and eye pleasing but quoting and snipping problems remains the same.

I knew that forum, that use new forum softwares. It is basic, and unchangeable characteristic of mobile devices. Ebooks can not completely replaced paper books. Personally, I don't like that forum, because I felt familiar with classic forum (this one).

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on August 04, 2019, 10:54:22 PM

Typing on mobile devices is always inconvenient: it is another minus point that we do not need an app

- If we do not feel comfortable when typing with mobile devices, an app won't solve this natural issues with mobile devices.

Instead of building an app, having new forum software is better (Epochtalk).

It's not about typing, rather quoting, snipping and doing some advanced reply things are bit of pain.

By the way, I just registered on (https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/) which uses Epochtalk. It's little conveninient and eye pleasing but quoting and snipping problems remains the same.

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I have some reasons that lead me to don't support an app for Bitcointalk.org.

Another type of phishing for the forum: we already have see so many phishing sites; and we do not need phishing apps
With app, more users will get their accounts hacked; then more burden of works on account recoveries for forum staffs and Cryptios.
Typing on mobile devices is always inconvenient: it is another minus point that we do not need an app

- If people don't seriously and carefully with their activities when using their bitcointalk accounts, don't remember the site's address; they will do not care to save official link of an app, then they will get hacked.
- If we do not feel comfortable when typing with mobile devices, an app won't solve this natural issues with mobile devices.

I am curious, and click on Vote button, with No option. Then, I saw results (with 35 votes in total):
- Yes: 10 (28.6%)
- No: 25 (71.4%).
The sample of vote is small, but it gives us the fact that people don't like the idea to build an app for forum.
Instead of building an app, having new forum software is better (Epochtalk).

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Quote from: timerland on August 04, 2019, 07:09:54 PM

The entire UI is changed and it's formatted in a way that is comfortable. Bitcointalk isn't designed in this way.

That's a static site. That's far less of a challenge to make it usable.

I dip into other forums on mobile and they're all different levels of painful to actually write on even when they're optimised. It's a medium that's never going to be a very comfortable fit on mobile if you want to do more than browse.

Can you link to some forums that you think do work on mobile?

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Quote from: gentlemand on August 04, 2019, 04:50:11 PM

Quote from: libert19 on August 01, 2019, 11:35:07 PM

I just realized, I do things you mentioned a lot, but never found it tedious, to be honest. May be I am just used to mobiles.

Reading the full fat version on mobile is tolerable, it's the writing, namely trimming to quote, that's agonising. You have to wait for the wee markers to show up holding your finger down, make sure you don't lose them or misplace them and more often than not they jump and you've deleted far too much. These days I try to wait until I'm near something with a mouse.

I don't know how or whether an app could address that. Dunno about iOS but there are a lot of things about Android that are still unwieldy enough to make my ovaries ache.

It's not really as much as a problem with needing an APP, it's just the mobile version (or any smaller version for that matter) hasn't been touched, so it just takes the regular site and shrinks it down.

Go on another popular web site, eg cointelegraph for an example. The entire UI is changed and it's formatted in a way that is comfortable. Bitcointalk isn't designed in this way.

A mobile app would be good though. The main issues are with the quote buttons being so hard to use, the overall UI and look of the site on mobile (zooming in and scrolling left and right to see posts is really annoying, personally). An app would be very hard to build to be honest though.

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Quote from: libert19 on August 01, 2019, 11:35:07 PM

I just realized, I do things you mentioned a lot, but never found it tedious, to be honest. May be I am just used to mobiles.

Reading the full fat version on mobile is tolerable, it's the writing, namely trimming to quote, that's agonising. You have to wait for the wee markers to show up holding your finger down, make sure you don't lose them or misplace them and more often than not they jump and you've deleted far too much. These days I try to wait until I'm near something with a mouse.

I don't know how or whether an app could address that. Dunno about iOS but there are a lot of things about Android that are still unwieldy enough to make my ovaries ache.

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Quote from: libert19 on August 01, 2019, 11:35:07 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on July 03, 2019, 04:22:21 AM

Quote from: libert19 on July 01, 2019, 10:08:29 PM

I use bitcointalk mostly on mobile and yet to find any problem, it's friendly as it gets.

It is not really mobile friendly. You have to zoom in and zoom out, slide your fingers up and down to read a long post or even change between horizontal and vertical positioning of the phone for better usability. If you are OK doing all that then that is fine.

I just realized, I do things you mentioned a lot, but never found it tedious, to be honest. May be I am just used to mobiles.

I am also mostly here on mobile and didn't even noticed I had to scroll that much till I read this. For me its just working fine but if there's an app, i would use it.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 03, 2019, 04:22:21 AM

Quote from: libert19 on July 01, 2019, 10:08:29 PM

I use bitcointalk mostly on mobile and yet to find any problem, it's friendly as it gets.

It is not really mobile friendly. You have to zoom in and zoom out, slide your fingers up and down to read a long post or even change between horizontal and vertical positioning of the phone for better usability. If you are OK doing all that then that is fine.

I just realized, I do things you mentioned a lot, but never found it tedious, to be honest. May be I am just used to mobiles.

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Quote from: amicrypto on July 01, 2019, 10:14:22 AM

Because of time constraints, I have not been able to come to the forum as much as I would like to. The current format of the website makes it very unfriendly to be operated on the mobile web browser. I would never dare to write a reply on the mobile browser. God, its a hell of a task. Grin

I would request the forum admin (theymos) to allocate some funds to the development of a sleek and beautiful mobile application that would make it easier for people like me to access the portal on the go. I think there is an ample amount of fund lying with the forum (going by his comments) to undertake such a development. Maybe, we can contribute to the app by giving out our suggestions for the same. I would love to know about what the community thinks about getting an app.

I suggested connecting tapatalk to the forum, but the developers said that it would damage the site and told me to wait for a new forum and since 2017 I have been waiting for it, but it’s not done.

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Quote from: WhyFhy on July 28, 2019, 11:56:37 AM

You can wrap any website in an apk in under a min.
https://web2apk.com/
You can do the same for iOS

Yea, it still doesn't fix the fundamental issue though: a forum like BT formatted to a phone. As finaleshot brought up, it's more of a design issue than anything else:

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on July 28, 2019, 11:54:01 AM

I already imagined it, It's really hard to see those details and especially when you're trying to keep being formal using those BBcodes. Using a smartphone for forums is the most difficult part, like clicking small buttons, removing error BBcodes and other kinds of stuff. But I know it's very essential to those who only bring smartphones to their job and wanted to keep updated in bitcoin because I know someone that needed this kind of feature, very opposite with me. They both store cookies so no problem with that, I can save my account in both platforms.

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You can wrap any website in an apk in under a min.
https://web2apk.com/
You can do the same for iOS

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I like the classic bitcointalk.org, the interface has a professional look.

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Many other forums have opted for a mobile-friendly site instead, as it's a lot easier to do which is why apps are becoming obsolete for single-function websites anyways. Plus, you get to keep the same style and form (which I'm sure a lot of people want here) + you can access from any device without compatibility issues.

It's good though but I don't like browsing in a smartphone. I already imagined it, It's really hard to see those details and especially when you're trying to keep being formal using those BBcodes. Using a smartphone for forums is the most difficult part, like clicking small buttons, removing error BBcodes and other kinds of stuff. But I know it's very essential to those who only bring smartphones to their job and wanted to keep updated in bitcoin because I know someone that needed this kind of feature, very opposite with me. They both store cookies so no problem with that, I can save my account in both platforms.

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That would give another option, some users are more comfortable with mobile phone in accessing the forum, so an APP would be a help for them.
Personally I like to access the forum with my computer, I like bigger screens and I feel it's easier than accessing through mobile.

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Quote from: Cloverfield on July 25, 2019, 10:18:38 PM

We’re shifting more and more to a fully digital world. I know there are a lot of OG’s in here that think this forum don’t have to change, but where everything is enhancing the generation that will really adopt BTC won’t look twice towards bitcointalk. Looks a little outdated and could be in need for some improvements. But this is just an opinion and for myself I wouldn’t change anything as it grew on me. I said “yes” on an app (not now, but in the upcoming years definetly)

It definitely could do with a better mobile solution. I still wouldn't use it for posting unless absolutely necessary though. If modern youth can make it work going full mobile then I will wave supportively from my hoist.

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Quote from: gentlemand on July 05, 2019, 04:38:46 AM

I use the wap2 version of the site for pure browsing as that's very simple.

I try to avoid posting on mobile as it's agonising but Opera for Android does a good job of resizing the text to fit the screen. That doesn't solve quoting, trimming and pasting which takes 10 times longer than a PC.

How younglings can operate their whole lives with nothing but a phone is beyond me. I don't think it's something any forum can solve. Phones are plain clunky for handling large amounts of text.

We’re shifting more and more to a fully digital world. I know there are a lot of OG’s in here that think this forum don’t have to change, but where everything is enhancing the generation that will really adopt BTC won’t look twice towards bitcointalk. Looks a little outdated and could be in need for some improvements. But this is just an opinion and for myself I wouldn’t change anything as it grew on me. I said “yes” on an app (not now, but in the upcoming years definetly)

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I use the wap2 version of the site for pure browsing as that's very simple.

I try to avoid posting on mobile as it's agonising but Opera for Android does a good job of resizing the text to fit the screen. That doesn't solve quoting, trimming and pasting which takes 10 times longer than a PC.

How younglings can operate their whole lives with nothing but a phone is beyond me. I don't think it's something any forum can solve. Phones are plain clunky for handling large amounts of text.

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Quote from: amicrypto on July 01, 2019, 10:14:22 AM

I would request the forum admin (theymos) to allocate some funds to the development of a sleek and beautiful mobile application

I am sure that it is not a priority of admin, but not sure that it has been in to-do list of admin or not.
The new forum software costs lot of money so far, and there are very limited forum members to test it. It should be the first priority for us.
Epochtalk is ready, theymos wants us to test it. C'mon...
http://epochtalk.org/
You can join and try to test it here:
Cryptos-Currencies.Com : First forum using Epochtalk
However, you should remember not using same emails and / or same passwords of your account here in the testing forum.

Another minus point is that app for mobile devices is more vulnerable to phisisng things. Newbies can more easily fall into traps of fake apps.

Lastly, there is always terrible experience to type and reply on mobile devices. If someone only need apps, just to read, it does not make sense. On mobile devices, it is so hard to quote, strim unnecessary parts of quote, and takes more time to do such things (if someone really want to do it for their posts).

I less regularly reply from my mobile devices, and whenever I do it, I often come back to those posts (if I have to quote something) when I log in my account on computer / laptop to strim unused parts of quotes.

Additionally, if you want to suggest something, you should make it here:
Community generated suggestions to improve the forum (+ eventual voting on them)

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Having an app is not an issue but utilizing it is the problem. There's some task you can't do with app which is copying of URL address of a post and you do know that we carried out here for reference. Mobile browser is more preferable for me

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Quote from: libert19 on July 01, 2019, 10:08:29 PM

I use bitcointalk mostly on mobile and yet to find any problem, it's friendly as it gets.

It is not really mobile friendly. You have to zoom in and zoom out, slide your fingers up and down to read a long post or even change between horizontal and vertical positioning of the phone for better usability. If you are OK doing all that then that is fine.

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The forum is open to suggestions but this is not a good idea AFAIK. Especially for those of us using android devices which I know have a questionable security system as compared to its main competitor APPLE Roll Eyes

We could be moving targets and I dont want that... hackers could easily social engineer themselves into our phones and God knows what next....Unfortunately am not in support of this idea but the mobile version of this site is a thumbs UP Grin

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