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Topic: Would you play on an iPoker skin using Bitcoin as a deposit method? (Read 3007 times)

legendary
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No! I never play any poker game in an online sites. as far as I know its a kind of gambling which is in reality its not good, unless if you're luck is there always. But for the sake of earnings bitcoin I think I'm gonna try it first but not giving seriously to play it not to become a poker gambler.
For me poker game is one of the good game online or offline they will still stay the same..  if you are worrying in any gambling site an your enemies are  computer or bot just look for live gambling poker. or try playtodos i tried that site before that you can buy your own table with 8 chairs and invite people to play poker.
copper member
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In fact I voted pro this choice. The reason for that being only few big casinos offer a lot of option when playing poker. The few casinos that accepts playing it like swcpoker and betcoin usually there I don't find full tables and I have to wait a lot of time to start a poker game or maybe a sit n go tournament. That's why its much needed that this iPoker skin starts accepting bitcoin to give bitcoiners a chance to enjoy the beauty of texas holdem just like many of us do in zynga poker but there we only play for fun.
hero member
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No! I never play any poker game in an online sites. as far as I know its a kind of gambling which is in reality its not good, unless if you're luck is there always. But for the sake of earnings bitcoin I think I'm gonna try it first but not giving seriously to play it not to become a poker gambler.
legendary
Activity: 1904
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iPoker has many disadvantages in comparison to bitcoin poker.

Which is? My logic says, the bigger the crowd and the more competition there is the better for everyone involved with Bitcoin. If a massive gambling site or sites like these start accepting Bitcoin, the

bigger the demand would be for bitcoins and this will increase it's value. We need some big platform to lead the way, for the rest to follow. The smaller operators will also look at what the bigger guys

are doing, and they will also start doing the same.  Wink
legendary
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The Golden Rule Rules
iPoker has many disadvantages in comparison to bitcoin poker.
newbie
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It is not illegal to play poker online in the us. It is illegal for banks to fund transactions to online gambling sites. There are several thousand people from the us currently playing at merge/everleaf/bodog for real money right now.
legendary
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If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
I wonder what happens if i make a poker site in europe and i don't actively block usa ip

Do i get cia agents killing me while i sleep?
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
The US didn't outlaw poker. It just made it illegal to play for money. I believe that no current site that accepts fiat in other countries is going to accept only BTC in America. The last thing they want is to be locked out of the US market once poker is legal to play again here in the US. Therefore, the most logical choice to have a site based solely on bitcoins. And it best be done quick, for once the market opens up again, all bets are off for a bitcoin only poker site. During the writing of this post, I was aware of Seals with Clubs existence. I'm speaking of a much larger site operated by an established entity with a huge player base.

~Bruno~
newbie
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Bitcoin as a deposit/withdrawal method for a US player site would be a huge deal. Deposits for a non US site is not really a big deal since non us players don't have problems depositing. Maybe if ipoker does it some US sites will do it so it would still be a good thing.
sr. member
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I think I should clear some things up. Adding BTC as possible deposit method does not mean US players will be accepted. Ipoker didn't allow US players on their network and will not until the US regulate poker. This would -at first- just be an additional deposit method.

Quote from: Koekiemonster link=topic=61892.msg722120#msg7221 20 date=1327930466
Funds will be converted to a  t try out something like Dragon's Tale, only because you don't have to bring in your own btc and can use it as a way of
getting free coins, which you can use to play with there, or withdraw.
fiat currency(EUR,USD,GBP) so you won't be actually playing with BTC.

Why can't we play with BTC?

I would think that's because the iPoker network doesn't support playing with BTC.  Lots of different companies use the iPoker network and provide their own 'skin' to make it look like their own site.  The players often don't realise they're playing on iPoker, because everything is branded to look like the site they registered with.  The different companies are responsible for handling deposits and withdrawals, which iPoker provides the games.

If you want to play with BTC, http://sealswithclubs.org/ offers that.  They have hourly freerolls (with a 0.05 BTC prize to the winner).  The rake on ring games is cheap too, at only 2.5%.  The biggest problem is that there are very few players.  Currently (11:20pm PST) it's saying: "Join 23 Bitcoin Poker Players Online at 3 Live Tables"...
This is correct. iPoker only supports GBP, EUR and USD ingame for now. If BTC would grow it might be added of course, but this is a looong time from now.
If you would like to play for BTC I would recommend sealswithclubs as well. I played some hands there and it's quite nice and easy. As dooglus points out the playerspool is shallow and this is what an iPokerskin accepting BTC could solve.(in the end it doesn't matter in which currency you're playing right? You're only less open to volatility risks!)

My vote would be in the 'other' category.  I like poker and gambling but wouldn't do it online because I wouldn't trust any of them...
(there are no open source poker sites are there?)
If you don't trust online pokersites you should definitely not play live. Pokersites hardly have any incentive to rig the game since they take a percentage of the pot, regardless of the outcome of the hand.(they actually might prefer splitpots or losing players lose less, but simple data analyses would discover this and this would destroy their business). Live games on the opposite have been filled with people trying to cheat and this still is a problem. I recently played a tournament where a fake reporter signed his partner what cards other players at the table had. This was discovered, but imagine all the frauds succeeding?!
legendary
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Funds will be converted to a fiat currency(EUR,USD,GBP) so you won't be actually playing with BTC.

Why can't we play with BTC?

I would think that's because the iPoker network doesn't support playing with BTC.  Lots of different companies use the iPoker network and provide their own 'skin' to make it look like their own site.  The players often don't realise they're playing on iPoker, because everything is branded to look like the site they registered with.  The different companies are responsible for handling deposits and withdrawals, which iPoker provides the games.

If you want to play for BTC, http://sealswithclubs.org/ offers that.  They have hourly freerolls (with a 0.05 BTC prize to the winner).  The rake on ring games is cheap too, at only 2.5%.  The biggest problem is that there are very few players.  Currently (11:20pm PST) it's saying: "Join 23 Bitcoin Poker Players Online at 3 Live Tables"...
hero member
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I am most definitely interested. I'm having an issue with a poker room where my usual withdrawal method has been removed for my area (not USA) and I have no way of withdrawing my funds. Not to mention support is being worse than useless through all this. Angry

It will be a huge relief to have an easy cash in/out method in a high traffic room.
legendary
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Are there some new Bitcoin regulations that have been written and signed into law in the past week or so?

Otherwise Btc != money and current regulations dont matter.


The problem is not the definition of btc as a currency or not... I believe the US gambling/sweepstakes laws, etc, consider gambling to occur when "something of value" is wagered. Clearly that's vague, and intentionally so. Thus any site providing access to US players, whether funding and/or play occurs in $, EUR, BTC, or corn, will be subject to US Department of Justice UIGEA enforcement action.

That said, international BTC poker play should work fine, legally. The US was only 50% of the market on Black Friday.
newbie
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Funds will be converted to a fiat currency(EUR,USD,GBP) so you won't be actually playing with BTC.

Why can't we play with BTC?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
My money; Our Bitcoin.
What does the word "skin" refer to in this context? 

Poker sites that share a common backend/network and player pool, but that are operated by independent entities which each provide their own interface/look/bonus programs etc. I would guess the term "skin" comes from the different look each site has despite the common guts as it were.

Thanks.

My vote would be in the 'other' category.  I like poker and gambling but wouldn't do it online because I wouldn't trust any of them...
( there are no open source poker sites are there? ) 

I might try out something like Dragon's Tale, only because you don't have to bring in your own btc and can use it as a way of
getting free coins, which you can use to play with there, or withdraw.
legendary
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hero member
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What does the word "skin" refer to in this context? 

Poker sites that share a common backend/network and player pool, but that are operated by independent entities which each provide their own interface/look/bonus programs etc. I would guess the term "skin" comes from the different look each site has despite the common guts as it were.
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1000
My money; Our Bitcoin.
What does the word "skin" refer to in this context? 
legendary
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Three words perfectly describe Bitcoin poker.

LEGAL TEAM ENEMA

FYP



Are there some new Bitcoin regulations that have been written and signed into law in the past week or so?

Otherwise Btc != money and current regulations dont matter.

while that is true, the IRS and any other revenue service with half a brain will be all over any site that opens up that many ways to launder money. look at FullTilt having been closed down. And they didnt even TOUCH bitcoin.


This was only possible due to the site being a .com right?

and all operatives living in the US.
just pointing that out.

also - any site that wants to grant access to .com players will NOT REPEAT NOT allow any skin to use bitcoins.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Three words perfectly describe Bitcoin poker.

LEGAL TEAM ENEMA

FYP



Are there some new Bitcoin regulations that have been written and signed into law in the past week or so?

Otherwise Btc != money and current regulations dont matter.

while that is true, the IRS and any other revenue service with half a brain will be all over any site that opens up that many ways to launder money. look at FullTilt having been closed down. And they didnt even TOUCH bitcoin.


This was only possible due to the site being a .com right?
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