What do you mean by "someone called you out"? There are circumstances I'd admit it and others I'd tell them to mind their own frickin' business.
Topic: Would you trust someone who had been arrested multiple times for.. - page 3. (Read 988 times)
March 08, 2018, 04:52:15 AM
March 08, 2018, 04:44:53 AM
I agree with this but there's a difference between admitting to friends or people you do business with and making it public information.
I totally agree with you bud.. but if someone called you out on arrests would you start mentioning charges? for me that is a little dodgy.. though I have no issues with full disclosure. I am what I am as the saying goes.
March 08, 2018, 04:31:57 AM
Taken on face value, would you trust someone with funds if they had been arrested in the past for taking a car without the owners consent? I don't think I would, especially if they tried to hide that fact.
When I was a teenager a friend was arrested for taking his parents' car without permission (he was 17 with a provisional licence). Obviously, they gave him a hard time about it but didn't press charges. He wasn't exactly broadcasting the news around school at the time. I still trust him.
It's something that would make me suspicious enough to need to find out the full story.
Personally I think that people make mistakes, I have made plenty over my lifetime, but I am happy to admit if I have made an error or done something wrong. People who do not have the guts to admit to mistakes and try to hide them are scummy to me
I agree with this but there's a difference between admitting to friends or people you do business with and making it public information.
March 08, 2018, 04:21:12 AM
I would have to take it on a case by case basis. A record of having been arrested but not charged and/or convicted could be either a smart criminal that knows how to get away with it or harassment from law enforcement with a grudge. It's certainly grounds for suspicion but not by any means evidence that should be taken alone.
Taken on face value, would you trust someone with funds if they had been arrested in the past for taking a car without the owners consent? I don't think I would, especially if they tried to hide that fact.
Personally I think that people make mistakes, I have made plenty over my lifetime, but I am happy to admit if I have made an error or done something wrong. People who do not have the guts to admit to mistakes and try to hide them are scummy to me
March 08, 2018, 04:16:12 AM
Would you trust someone who has been arrested for the below?
* Possess/Manufacture/Sell Dangerous Weapon
* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
* Possess/Manufacture/Sell Dangerous Weapon
* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
Arrested but not convicted? That's not much to go on. I certainly wouldn't distrust someone over it. If the case wasn't prosecuted, we have to assume the charges were bogus.
no smoke without fire? 1 arrest very different from 3 or 4..
I am asking about someones character and if repeated arrests = good character.
I am asking about someones character and if repeated arrests = good character.
Irrelevant. Cops are miserable pieces of shit. I've seen good people railroaded before -- doesn't take much. Try being on the wrong side of someone who is close to a police. Prosecutors tend to be more reasonable; they don't prosecute cases they can't prove. This is why juries exist. Pointing to an arrest record is just an appeal to authority. We don't know what really happened.
I would have to take it on a case by case basis. A record of having been arrested but not charged and/or convicted could be either a smart criminal that knows how to get away with it or harassment from law enforcement with a grudge. It's certainly grounds for suspicion but not by any means evidence that should be taken alone.
March 08, 2018, 04:03:48 AM
No for both. Criminals even if not convicted are not trustworthy.
interesting view - so if the arrest record was actually longer than this you 100% wouldn't trust the offender?
Doesn't matter if he has committed one crime or multiple crimes. He is not trustworthy. However, in one of your cases, the one who owns a license to a weapon is not considered a criminal and hence can be trusted. I can't say in the case of manufacturers or ones who sell it as most of them cannot be trusted.
Not being from the states so I am not well versed in the legal jargon I understand the charge as possession of a dangerous weapon.
March 08, 2018, 03:33:50 AM
No for both. Criminals even if not convicted are not trustworthy.
interesting view - so if the arrest record was actually longer than this you 100% wouldn't trust the offender?
Doesn't matter if he has committed one crime or multiple crimes. He is not trustworthy. However, in one of your cases, the one who owns a license to a weapon is not considered a criminal and hence can be trusted. I can't say in the case of manufacturers or ones who sell it as most of them cannot be trusted.
March 08, 2018, 02:40:28 AM
No for both. Criminals even if not convicted are not trustworthy.
interesting view - so if the arrest record was actually longer than this you 100% wouldn't trust the offender?
March 08, 2018, 02:30:40 AM
No for both. Criminals even if not convicted are not trustworthy.
March 08, 2018, 02:10:16 AM
Would you trust someone who has been arrested for the below?
* Possess/Manufacture/Sell Dangerous Weapon
* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
* Possess/Manufacture/Sell Dangerous Weapon
* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
Arrested but not convicted? That's not much to go on. I certainly wouldn't distrust someone over it. If the case wasn't prosecuted, we have to assume the charges were bogus.
no smoke without fire? 1 arrest very different from 3 or 4..
I am asking about someones character and if repeated arrests = good character.
I am asking about someones character and if repeated arrests = good character.
Irrelevant. Cops are miserable pieces of shit. I've seen good people railroaded before -- doesn't take much. Try being on the wrong side of someone who is close to a police. Prosecutors tend to be more reasonable; they don't prosecute cases they can't prove. This is why juries exist. Pointing to an arrest record is just an appeal to authority. We don't know what really happened.
March 08, 2018, 01:42:17 AM
TMAN is asking if merely having been suspected of committing a crime, regardless of whether the individual was actually found guilty, makes them untrustworthy.
no smoke without fire? 1 arrest very different from 3 or 4..
I am asking about someones character and if repeated arrests = good character.
March 08, 2018, 01:27:45 AM
* Possess/Manufacture/Sell Dangerous Weapon
Does he own a license to do so ? For instance,Gun Manufacturers do oblige with all the legal procedures to get a license.However,selling them illegally is definitely committing a felony.* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
Isn't that considered as a robbery ? Every judicial system that I'm aware of has serious charges (and jail time) for robbery.Being arrested and being convicted are not the same thing. Note this from the OP:
I know its only arrest and not prison time, but as they say you cant make an omelet without cracking a few eggs.
TMAN is asking if merely having been suspected of committing a crime, regardless of whether the individual was actually found guilty, makes them untrustworthy.
March 08, 2018, 01:16:27 AM
* Possess/Manufacture/Sell Dangerous Weapon
Does he own a license to do so ? For instance,Gun Manufacturers do oblige with all the legal procedures to get a license.However,selling them illegally is definitely committing a felony.* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
Isn't that considered as a robbery ? Every judicial system that I'm aware of has serious charges (and jail time) for robbery. March 08, 2018, 12:59:01 AM
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Fuck off Quickspazzer - leave the grown ups aloneOnce a thief, always a thief. Problem with arrested offenders is they tend to be recidivists. It’s hard to kick a habit, as the saying goes, and human bias will usually predispose one to harbor doubts. If someone steals, I might find it hard to trust that person, unless perhaps the theft was committed to achieve a greater good (such as being compelled to steal a vehicle to save someone’s life or to remove that vehicle from someone under the influence of alcohol etc).
As for dangerous weapons, I think trust will revolve around other factors such as motives for possessing or manufacturing them and the kind of weapon. If the person recklessly endangered vulnerable people such as kids, then I doubt I will ever find the strength to trust such a person.
Once a Thief always a thief is an interesting perspective, so are you saying based on only the 2 arrests above you wouldnt trust someone like that with $500K ? As for dangerous weapons, I think trust will revolve around other factors such as motives for possessing or manufacturing them and the kind of weapon. If the person recklessly endangered vulnerable people such as kids, then I doubt I will ever find the strength to trust such a person.
* Possess/Manufacture/Sell Dangerous Weapon
* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
These are for offline things and nothing have to do with online works. Tman how do you know who is arrested personally, just a google search?
can you read? this is all hypothetical obviously! * Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
These are for offline things and nothing have to do with online works. Tman how do you know who is arrested personally, just a google search?
March 07, 2018, 10:26:18 PM
* Possess/Manufacture/Sell Dangerous Weapon
* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
These are for offline things and nothing have to do with online works. Tman how do you know who is arrested personally, just a google search?
* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
These are for offline things and nothing have to do with online works. Tman how do you know who is arrested personally, just a google search?
March 07, 2018, 10:18:56 PM
I'd think very little of it if they were never convicted for those crimes. Many people equate being arrested with guilt, so I can understand why they would avoid the question entirely.
March 07, 2018, 10:08:48 PM
Its ok for me if someone got arrested for rage driving in youth or getting behind bars for fighting in teenage days.
But selling weapons and stealing vehicles is aomething that i wont trust upon.
But selling weapons and stealing vehicles is aomething that i wont trust upon.
March 07, 2018, 09:08:43 PM
Well, it depends. Based on my own experience, We have employed an ex-prisoner for 5 years already. His case is qualified theft been jailed for multiple times same case. But our family did give him a chance, We hired him as our cook. At first, we (my mom and my 2 brothers) are not comfortable with the situation but as days and months passed by he proved us wrong. We judged him on his first day but my dad didn't and he proves us that a person can really change for good. To answer if I could trust someone arrested multiple times? I would give them a chance to be fair and as human but I think one is enough. Trust isn't easy to give, it must be earned.
People do change but all can maintain it. Give chance though be cautious all the same time (since there are still people when they gained your trust they tend to abuse it).
People do change but all can maintain it. Give chance though be cautious all the same time (since there are still people when they gained your trust they tend to abuse it).
March 07, 2018, 06:38:44 PM
Once a thief, always a thief. Problem with arrested offenders is they tend to be recidivists. It’s hard to kick a habit, as the saying goes, and human bias will usually predispose one to harbor doubts. If someone steals, I might find it hard to trust that person, unless perhaps the theft was committed to achieve a greater good (such as being compelled to steal a vehicle to save someone’s life or to remove that vehicle from someone under the influence of alcohol etc).
As for dangerous weapons, I think trust will revolve around other factors such as motives for possessing or manufacturing them and the kind of weapon. If the person recklessly endangered vulnerable people such as kids, then I doubt I will ever find the strength to trust such a person.
As for dangerous weapons, I think trust will revolve around other factors such as motives for possessing or manufacturing them and the kind of weapon. If the person recklessly endangered vulnerable people such as kids, then I doubt I will ever find the strength to trust such a person.
March 07, 2018, 06:37:38 PM
I would like to know if anyone is willing to trust those who have been involved in extortion attempts.
TMAN -- can you add this to the OP please?
TMAN -- can you add this to the OP please?
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