Topic: [WTB] BTC with verified PayPal for +-$100 - page 7. (Read 5148 times)

Now , having a look at the recent conversation, I'm beginning to feel this is a scam from paypalbusters. The whole thing now appears sketchy.
But yeah pretty much both people's story here sounds fishy, so I think it comes down to personal opinion here

Either, like I said I cancelled the trade with you because i got a really bad vibe especially the way you kept talking about it. Also with you saying it might have happened because you haven't used your PayPal in over a year makes no sense. There's been times I haven't used mine in almost that long and no problem. I'm just saying I cancelled my offer due to me getting a bad vibe then look someone's account got closed. Also the fact that none of my invoices ever looked like that and it always states both parties in the invoice. But like I said if solid proof can be shown on either side I have a .1 bounty on it. But it is also the seller that took the risk because PayPal is bad when it comes to seller especially for digital goods.

PayPal is definitely not safe to accept, but why exactly did you feel comfortable sending first to someone who has 28 posts and no trade history? This was a prime example when it would have been a good idea to use escrow.

A scam from whose side?

I want to throw up a .1 bounty for solid proof that this was a scam. If you have solid proof I will give you .1 if this was not a scam I will provide OP with the .1 and my apologies but this is very sketchy. This is why I did not deal with him.

I would bang you with a Negative but I myself can not be sure of what happened.

he received a error when he wanted to send me the funds first time so i maked him a donation button but he was unable to send to the donation button too so after a few minutes he sended the payment to my paypal email.

About my account: it`s unverified with credit card but has the limits lifted with my real data, i dont use paypal to withdraw the money, i just spend the funds online, i donate to clarity at youcaring.com etc...
When i want money in my pocket i simple exchange bitcoins at localBTC, paypal is just for online spending

Yes, I tried to let everyone know when I posted also paypalbuster was the confirmation actually sent from PayPal that you received the funds.?

Sorry Nomad looks like you were scammed. He is just putting up phony screenshots of account being closed. He had the whole thing planned out ahead of time how he was going to scam his next victim IMO. Even had the fake account closed screenshots ready to go.

I did a test send of 1c to that account and it said nothing about not being able to receive payment. Therefore his account is indeed not closed. There was many warning signs already given . First it was a newbie, second just going to that paypalbusters site would be enough damning evidence not to deal with this guy if he is selling all sorts of shady sounding products mostly dealing with paypal. and last is they are non US unverified and using a girls name (jasmine ashton) LOL.

Sorry bro but your moneys lost and I highly doubt you'll be seeing the BTC.

no, looks like my account doesn`t exists anymore and i cant acces anything, he sended me that printscreen.
I dont find anybody guilty but i think that it`s normal to solve this because i cant figure out what happened, my account was in good standing, has over 2 years and a lot of transactions.

You know what PayPalBusters, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but the more I look through your messages the more it seems to me that you know exactly what you are doing.

In the first PM you sent me you had the following details under your name:



On that website you sell a product for $180 called "Bypass Paypal 21 days hold" as per the link below:

http://paypalbusters.com/16-bypass-paypal-21-days-hold

So it seems like you are very clued up with Paypal seeing that you sell Stealth Paypal accounts and the like. You could have used your own product if there really was a 21 days hold could you not?

I'm sorry, but I'm no longer willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I think you know exactly why that account of yours was closed if it was not you who closed it yourself.

So come clean and send me what I paid for and stop playing around.


EDIT: Just did a quick check, there is no Paypalbusters LLC. You know in most countries its considered fraud to represent something that is not fact in order to mislead etc..

I think its time to start some digging...

No, I only got that message about an hour after the transaction. It was working fine before that but I had the problem on my account as mentioned above and could not send from that page.

Weird shit inded, he got a message that your account was closed by trying to make payment from the donation button but right after he send payment directly to the same paypal account which is not closed...

No. When I tried to send the funds the first time I received a message that the funds could not be sent. I notified PaypalBuster about this and sent him a screenshot. He then gave me a link [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=UFT6VAW7SHX6Y] which went to a Paypal page for his account where you enter a 'donation' which would then go to him. I tried that but it once again did not want to send the funds.

I then contacted Paypal support and they responded with the following:


As I said before, I have not used this account in almost a year so that is most probably what lead to this situation. I tried again after receiving this mail and the payment went through and I received the online and email notifications that the transaction was sent.

The transaction was sent as a 'Family/Friends' transaction. If you know Paypal you will know that if I sent it as a business transaction then the fees would have been payable by the receiving party and not by me. As can be seen however from the transaction details posted above in previous posts, I did put in a transaction fee, or rather Paypal did,and that only happens when you select 'Friends and family'.

As said, the payment went through and I received confirmations that the payment was sent AND that it was accepted by the receiving party, see below:





PaypalBuster then informed me that there was a hold on the payment for 21 days. I have no proof of this and Paypal also seems to know nothing about this as they confirmed the payment was processed and completed. He said that he will sort it out and get back to me in a minute or two. An hour later he was offline so I went back to that 'donations' link and that is when I saw that image about the closed account.

So:

1) The payment was definitely sent as 'Family and friends' so it should have gone through immediately without any hold which all the confirmations suggest and what Paypal confirmed,
2)The transaction was completed successfully and the amount was delivered to the receivers Paypal account.

Hmm where does he make the payment ? That printscreen correct me if im wrong look like a payment was made from a site.

How come your account is 2yo but is unverified ? As per the screenshot from the guy account.

monbux what proof do i need to provide? i received the payment and i explained that but after that my account was deleted, not limited or other things like that, just deleted...what can i do now? i dont have the money and i dont have my paypal account anymore...
I still wait for the paypal support to answer to my email, i belive that this is a new scam trick but i need to be sure.

Its the message you got when logging in your paypal ?

If you want to I can speak to the people at Paypal again.

Your account was definitely not deleted due to anything I did. After I sent the funds you were online for a couple of minutes then told me about the 21 day hold and said I must give you a couple of minutes. An hour later you just dropped off the edge of the earth and when I went to your account, or that page [the link you gave me] the message as posted appeared about the closed account. It was only after that that I made contact with Paypal.

They said that they would contact you, did you get their email? Just wondering as you came back online just after they said they would contact you.


EDIT: Drop me a PM once you get this sorted out and or if you need assistance. It would be appreciated if you could get this resolved today. I'll be offline for a couple of hours but will check back later in this evening. Summer is starting this side, last place to be is behind a computer.

How is someone who is trading with you going to know if you are actually using your own PayPal account? How is PayPal going to know if your account was actually hacked (they have a few ways to tell, but this can still be faked).

This is why you should not accept PayPal funds unless the person sending such funds are highly reputable.

There are people selling forum accounts with no positive reputation for ~$20 or sometimes less so you should not trust the rank of someone sending such PayPal funds.

Kind Regards
Panthers52

Yes sorry you are right, in cases where there was malicious/criminal activity involved I guess they would or will have to reverse the payment. I was however more focused on my own situation where I was the one doing the sending of the funds. So there is no recourse in cases where you did the sending of the funds yourself. Whether you blame stupidity [as in my case] or your mother-in-law does not matter, they will not reverse it.