Topic: WTF Quark (Read 3035 times)
You obviously are not following look here http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/1xa0gb/fundraiser_quark_foundation_pool/
Yes, the Quark Foundation announced this initiative about a month ago. It's still in the planning stages. Meanwhile, qrk.coinmine.pl has gone from controlling 90% of the global hashrate to 95%. Most of Quark's current hashrate comes from botnets so the foundation pool may not do much good anyways. It's going to be a little difficult to convince new people to mine when Quark's block reward is 1 QRK ($0.039) and the total amount of all transaction fees for a 24hr period is about 0.52 QRK ($0.02). This is not going to end well. There has been almost no serious discussion by the community of the problems Quark is facing. Instead we have clowns like you and Kolin dancing around and pretending nothing is wrong and starting astroturf social media campaigns. I hope both of you will be able to sleep at night if the worst happens and all those people who invested in Quark because they trusted Kolin and Bill Still lose most of their investments.
oh look another sock puppet with a new account -
1. not my social media campaign , turns out people just like Quark , hey ?
2. "the worst happens" what? Quark catches your cat on fire? you drop your iphone in a puddle while distracted ? can you explain the worst happening? GoX revived with only Quark listed ?
you've never heard of a fallover pool? distributed checkpoints , all the market will see is a DDos (which is pretty much code for "Bank agent" attack these days anyhow)
then an attempted fork.
by the time its over we'll have Alex Jones talking about it, he'll be ready with an AR hunting you down ha ha . we'll tell him its the English ! : D
You obviously are not following look here http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/1xa0gb/fundraiser_quark_foundation_pool/
Yes, the Quark Foundation announced this initiative about a month ago. It's still in the planning stages. Meanwhile, qrk.coinmine.pl has gone from controlling 90% of the global hashrate to 95%. Most of Quark's current hashrate comes from botnets so the foundation pool may not do much good anyways. It's going to be a little difficult to convince new people to mine when Quark's block reward is 1 QRK ($0.039) and the total amount of all transaction fees for a 24hr period is about 0.52 QRK ($0.02). This is not going to end well. There has been almost no serious discussion by the community of the problems Quark is facing. Instead we have clowns like you and Kolin dancing around and pretending nothing is wrong and starting astroturf social media campaigns. I hope both of you will be able to sleep at night if the worst happens and all those people who invested in Quark because they trusted Kolin and Bill Still lose most of their investments.
what?
Look at the Quark orphan blocks, and tell me I am not telling the truth dude.
You cannot report the truth little prick.
Megacoin is actually a STRONG SOLID coin, and I am here to promote it to the people that doesn't know anything, and worship Doges. :p
you stick to your beecoin, never heard of it.
Quark is lousely coded and filled with lies from the devs.
I read today from their site:https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/9706?locale=en
Quark is less volatile?
More stable due to 1m quark adding annually?
not pre-mined?
My god, full of trash.
look at their distribution: top 100 own 76.8 % of all quark
yeah, not pre-mined.
you want a fair coin, get Megacoin.
really? louse coded qrk? hehe okay you are doing megacoin damage. I expect kimoto to report you to the mods soon.
Quark is lousely coded and filled with lies from the devs.
I read today from their site:https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/9706?locale=en
Quark is less volatile?
More stable due to 1m quark adding annually?
not pre-mined?
My god, full of trash.
look at their distribution: top 100 own 76.8 % of all quark
yeah, not pre-mined.
you want a fair coin, get Megacoin.
ok Quark bad, Megacoin good
whahahahah
you know trash talking 1 coin and then immediately pumping another that does not really make you credible.
and well suggesting it been premined, that really gives your motive away, quark was not premined, if you want to stretch the definition of instamine, block rewards halving relativy fast, you could call it an instamine maybe.
Quark is lousely coded and filled with lies from the devs.
I read today from their site:https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/9706?locale=en
Quark is less volatile?
More stable due to 1m quark adding annually?
not pre-mined?
My god, full of trash.
look at their distribution: top 100 own 76.8 % of all quark
yeah, not pre-mined.
you want a fair coin, get Megacoin.
I can confidently say that the Quark algorithm (variants) will slowly or quickly take over Crypto currency.
there is no secret and there is absolutely nothing large forces in mining can do about it.
The easy to code in complexity will soon be tinkered with similar to the Scrypt N factor -
so a Dev will cook up:
1. Pick hash algos. (or groups)
2. Pick Random function(s)
3. Shake and Bake
mine with GPU and CPU.
there is no secret and there is absolutely nothing large forces in mining can do about it.
The easy to code in complexity will soon be tinkered with similar to the Scrypt N factor -
so a Dev will cook up:
1. Pick hash algos. (or groups)
2. Pick Random function(s)
3. Shake and Bake
mine with GPU and CPU.
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature 
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Quark value went from almost zero to 75 million $ in 1 month and the next 3 months it went down to 10 million where it is now, if that not a pump and dump then nothing is.
Try putting the graph on 90% of alts up there next to that one a take serious look.
The same noobs calling qrk instamined and pushing mint and black and they were mined to full mint about 150x faster.
THE ONLY PEOPLE MOANING ABOUT QRK ARE THOSE THAT HAVE NO QRK
Well that is kinda my point quark just like all the other altoins lol, just pump and dump BS, now I dont mind pump and dump away, hell I even made a little BTC with the big quark pump in december.
But what really bothers me with Quark is the extraordinary bullshit koolaid the quark pumpers are trying to sell, like it really really special, more secure, better then bitcoin , the global banking cartel worried about quark etc, even with the transaction maleabilty issue the major quark pumper digital industry used this to pump quark, putting some disinformation out there that if mt.Gox had quark on their exchange instead of bitcoin, that this would have never happened. It is all just getting totally unreal with you quark pumpers.
yes i certainly 100% did do that , and it was great don't you think?
: D
Also, of course would have helped if the retard running the exchange wasn't a paid off thief, but why would i say that publicly?
After all this fat chump effectively handed the Crypto market on a silver platter to the BRICs nations.
so why would anyone dislike that guy, i'd shake his hand. (ask him for a cut of his 1000+ BTC)
as for the "more secure" etc, you will not hear that from me, but i don't run a decentralized market so how can I control any of that ?
by definition, literally any definition Quark's economics and algorithm is superior as a "digital store of value" and "payment system" than Bitcoin.
again will i say that openly in public, nope with out the general Bitcoin protocol we all have nothing so we owe it ultimate respect, but there are things that you can not test on a white-paper, free market multidimensional aspects that you can't effectively predict, you would literally have to look into the future to do that.
and the final evolution of the algorithm has arrived , and its Quark.
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Quark value went from almost zero to 75 million $ in 1 month and the next 3 months it went down to 10 million where it is now, if that not a pump and dump then nothing is.
Try putting the graph on 90% of alts up there next to that one a take serious look.
The same noobs calling qrk instamined and pushing mint and black and they were mined to full mint about 150x faster.
THE ONLY PEOPLE MOANING ABOUT QRK ARE THOSE THAT HAVE NO QRK
Well that is kinda my point quark just like all the other altoins lol, just pump and dump BS, now I dont mind pump and dump away, hell I even made a little BTC with the big quark pump in december.
But what really bothers me with Quark is the extraordinary bullshit koolaid the quark pumpers are trying to sell, like it really really special, more secure, better then bitcoin , the global banking cartel worried about quark etc, even with the transaction maleabilty issue the major quark pumper digital industry used this to pump quark, putting some disinformation out there that if mt.Gox had quark on their exchange instead of bitcoin, that this would have never happened. It is all just getting totally unreal with you quark pumpers.
Do you need ELI5? He is saying that mtgox didn't wait for BTC to confirm which takes 10 minutes and the scammers/hackers took advantage of that, with Quarks case it would be 30 seconds so it would be much harder to pull it off.
Another advantage of Quark might be in this case it was compared with darkcoin, Darkcoin's block generation time is 2.5minutes (150seconds), while Quark is 30 seconds. Which means that Quarks algorithm with an element of randomness (unpredictability) will have to be cracked in 30 seconds to create a double-spend fork, while for Darkcoin this window of opportunity for the attacker is 5 timeslonger: 150 seconds with no element of randomness**. If you take all these factors into account, Quark is still the most secure - it's not only about the number of hashing functions."
** Quark is using 9 rounds of hashing: while using 6 rounds from Blake, Blue Midnight Wish, Grøstl, JH, Keccak and Skein it adds 3 more rounds of hashing randomly: so the computer doesn't know whether it will be Keccak or Grøstl or Blake. And that's one of the uniqiue beauties of Quark. Unfortunately, Darkcoin or Qubitcoin don't do that: the computer remains certain about which hashing function will be used.
Transaction malleability has noting to do with double spending and receiving money without waiting for a confirmation, it is about being able to change the transaction ID, to fool dumb people or people with dumb software that a transaction did not happen when it in fact did happen. Quark is just as vulnerable as bitcoin to transaction malleability, it was just shameless disinformation in order to pump quark.
Looks like a pump and dump, quacks like a pump and dump, chances are it's a pump and dump
of course it's a pump and dump , the coin was instamined.
kids kids kids all these big mining words !
run along a play with some Scrypt N factors.
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Quark value went from almost zero to 75 million $ in 1 month and the next 3 months it went down to 10 million where it is now, if that not a pump and dump then nothing is.
Try putting the graph on 90% of alts up there next to that one a take serious look.
The same noobs calling qrk instamined and pushing mint and black and they were mined to full mint about 150x faster.
THE ONLY PEOPLE MOANING ABOUT QRK ARE THOSE THAT HAVE NO QRK
Well that is kinda my point quark just like all the other altoins lol, just pump and dump BS, now I dont mind pump and dump away, hell I even made a little BTC with the big quark pump in december.
But what really bothers me with Quark is the extraordinary bullshit koolaid the quark pumpers are trying to sell, like it really really special, more secure, better then bitcoin , the global banking cartel worried about quark etc, even with the transaction maleabilty issue the major quark pumper digital industry used this to pump quark, putting some disinformation out there that if mt.Gox had quark on their exchange instead of bitcoin, that this would have never happened. It is all just getting totally unreal with you quark pumpers.
Do you need ELI5? He is saying that mtgox didn't wait for BTC to confirm which takes 10 minutes and the scammers/hackers took advantage of that, with Quarks case it would be 30 seconds so it would be much harder to pull it off.
Another advantage of Quark might be in this case it was compared with darkcoin, Darkcoin's block generation time is 2.5minutes (150seconds), while Quark is 30 seconds. Which means that Quarks algorithm with an element of randomness (unpredictability) will have to be cracked in 30 seconds to create a double-spend fork, while for Darkcoin this window of opportunity for the attacker is 5 timeslonger: 150 seconds with no element of randomness**. If you take all these factors into account, Quark is still the most secure - it's not only about the number of hashing functions."
** Quark is using 9 rounds of hashing: while using 6 rounds from Blake, Blue Midnight Wish, Grøstl, JH, Keccak and Skein it adds 3 more rounds of hashing randomly: so the computer doesn't know whether it will be Keccak or Grøstl or Blake. And that's one of the uniqiue beauties of Quark. Unfortunately, Darkcoin or Qubitcoin don't do that: the computer remains certain about which hashing function will be used.
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Quark value went from almost zero to 75 million $ in 1 month and the next 3 months it went down to 10 million where it is now, if that not a pump and dump then nothing is.
Try putting the graph on 90% of alts up there next to that one a take serious look.
The same noobs calling qrk instamined and pushing mint and black and they were mined to full mint about 150x faster.
THE ONLY PEOPLE MOANING ABOUT QRK ARE THOSE THAT HAVE NO QRK
Well that is kinda my point quark just like all the other altoins lol, just pump and dump BS, now I dont mind pump and dump away, hell I even made a little BTC with the big quark pump in december.
But what really bothers me with Quark is the extraordinary bullshit koolaid the quark pumpers are trying to sell, like it really really special, more secure, better then bitcoin , the global banking cartel worried about quark etc, even with the transaction maleabilty issue the major quark pumper digital industry used this to pump quark, putting some disinformation out there that if mt.Gox had quark on their exchange instead of bitcoin, that this would have never happened. It is all just getting totally unreal with you quark pumpers.
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Quark value went from almost zero to 75 million $ in 1 month and the next 3 months it went down to 10 million where it is now, if that not a pump and dump then nothing is.
Try putting the graph on 90% of alts up there next to that one a take serious look.
The same noobs calling qrk instamined and pushing mint and black and they were mined to full mint about 150x faster.
THE ONLY PEOPLE MOANING ABOUT QRK ARE THOSE THAT HAVE NO QRK
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Yeah right it's useless that's why it has tons of clones and names after it. Nothing wrong with pumping, Bitcoin gets pumped all the time, it's all right when it's a potential coin and Quark is one. Get some knowledge on it before talking crap lol
Really fanboy? let me ask you one thing, what have you ever bought with quark ? lol
You know that Quark has a Quark > Euro payment processor? Recently Bitgild has accepted to use this payment processor and guess what it sells gold and silver. http://www.qrk.cc/merchants/ I don't see PMC have such thing.
Second www.bongocoin.com, vaultofsatoshi.com, MuCoWa.com, LitePaid.com soon Moolah.io all have like 5/6 top Cryptos added and Quark is one of them, do you see PMC in there?
Yes i bought Clothing and Jewellery with Quark. It's time to lose the ego because Quark is really here to stay.
loose the ego huh ? , man you really need a mirror
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Yeah right it's useless that's why it has tons of clones and names after it. Nothing wrong with pumping, Bitcoin gets pumped all the time, it's all right when it's a potential coin and Quark is one. Get some knowledge on it before talking crap lol
Really fanboy? let me ask you one thing, what have you ever bought with quark ? lol
You know that Quark has a Quark > Euro payment processor? Recently Bitgild has accepted to use this payment processor and guess what it sells gold and silver. http://www.qrk.cc/merchants/ I don't see PMC have such thing.
Second www.bongocoin.com, vaultofsatoshi.com, MuCoWa.com, LitePaid.com soon Moolah.io all have like 5/6 top Cryptos added and Quark is one of them, do you see PMC in there?
Yes i bought Clothing and Jewellery with Quark. It's time to lose the ego because Quark is really here to stay.
loose the ego huh ? , man you really need a mirror
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Yeah right it's useless that's why it has tons of clones and names after it. Nothing wrong with pumping, Bitcoin gets pumped all the time, it's all right when it's a potential coin and Quark is one. Get some knowledge on it before talking crap lol
Really fanboy? let me ask you one thing, what have you ever bought with quark ? lol
You know that Quark has a Quark > Euro payment processor? Recently Bitgild has accepted to use this payment processor and guess what it sells gold and silver. http://www.qrk.cc/merchants/
Second www.bongocoin.com, vaultofsatoshi.com, MuCoWa.com, LitePaid.com soon Moolah.io all have like 5/6 top Cryptos added and Quark is one of them
Yes i bought Clothing and Jewellery with Quark. It's time to lose the ego because Quark is really here to stay.
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Yeah right it's useless that's why it has tons of clones and names after it. Nothing wrong with pumping, Bitcoin gets pumped all the time, it's all right when it's a potential coin and Quark is one. Get some knowledge on it before talking crap lol
Really fanboy? let me ask you one thing, what have you ever bought with quark ? lol
^^ This happend with all Cryptos, it's not an only Quark thing. Look at Litecoin/Peercoin/Namecoin even Bitcoin the whole alt scene went bearish. What's your point? At least it's far more ahead of the useless PMC you are begging for in your signature
Did I hit a nerve or what ? looks like it, since you had to resort to a personal attack after I showed you a graph with facts, yeah pmc is useless as a currency all right, about as useless as quark and I admit I been pumping it for personal gain not because I really think one day it is going to replace FIAT currency and bring down the global bankster cartel and all that other fantasy bullshit you quark pumpers are trying to sell to naive noobs
Yeah right it's useless that's why it has tons of clones and names after it. Nothing wrong with pumping, Bitcoin gets pumped all the time, it's all right when it's a potential coin and Quark is one. Get some knowledge on it before talking crap lol
Looks like a pump and dump, quacks like a pump and dump, chances are it's a pump and dump
of course it's a pump and dump , the coin was instamined.
No it wasn't you can't really say it's instamined according to the comments below which were made on July 22 on the official Quark topic at Bitcointalk, 1 day after it was released.
- "there was no instamine. I mined my first block at around 300sh with my little Xeon cluster, and it was already pretty hard to catch a new block. It was much much easier to get Primecoins for the first three days with the same cluster."
- "I got about 100k in the first hour and another 100k in the next 12 hours. Not really instamine. After the first hour the difficulty drastically changed things. Considering blocks are 2048 coins thats not that many. I did the same with YAC, and XPM when they came out."
You had 6 months time, not Quarks fault you were too busy attracting people to buy Litecoin to wash off all the dump Max Keiser did on your head with his Litecoins
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