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rjk
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1ngldh
July 18, 2012, 09:57:08 AM
#6
I'm really curious about 250v.. I understand almost all PC power supplies can take anything from 100-264v and 50-60hz frequency without no problems and adjust automatically. On my circuit breaker box (uses 1 inch square d breakers), I have 2 empty slots left (they are adjacent to each other). My AC power is normally 110-118v depending on load according to my 2 kill a watts. Is there some sort of circuit breaker I can put in to make it double the voltage (calling it 250v, but its probably less)? Right now I'm pulling 19A + an unknown amount from a 20A 115v breaker, and I'm worried that I'll trip it or burn something out. I kind of want to reliably be able to pull 4000-5000 watts without being in danger of frying any wires or breakers or anything.

Also, I noticed my cords are pretty warm/hot. I got about 1125 watts going through a 14 guage cord on a surge protector/multi outlet/whatever you call them, and it's pretty hot. Assuming the multi outlet can also accept 250v (which it probably cant, not the correct plugin) and I run the same amount of watts on 250v, would the cord be cooler to the touch? Only ask since I heard less amps going through a cord means less heat.

Will running 250v and subsequently lower amps compared to 110v mean less lost power? I know PC power supplies like to have a higher input power for efficiency, just wondering if there will be other places for power to be leaked in the form of heat, such as cords, circuit breaker, outlets, etc

Sorry if I'm talking like a noob, I don't know how to describe the situation correctly. Also sorry for asking so many questions. I just feel I need to reliably supply more (and better) power to my rigs. drawing 2100 watts from a 15A 115v sockets sure feels wrong.. even though the circuit breaker was switched with a 20A so it doesnt trip so easily.
I've got just the thing. I built myself a higher-voltage distribution system, although I spent too much on it by buying everything at retail instead of ordering it all over the internet for cheaper. It consists of the following components:

Raco modular metal boxes - you can remove the sides and bolt them together.
P&S Legrand plugs - chop the end off of your existing cords an bolt these on. 6-15P for 15 amps at 250V.
20 amp 250V outlets - HD doesn't carry 15A versions, but that's not a problem since it will work with both 15 and 20 amp plugs.
Sectional wall plates - 2 of these, they go on each end. HD doesn't have them.
Sectional wall plates - 4 of these, they go in the middle. HD doesn't have these either.
20A 250V 3-pin twistlock connector - L6-20P P&S Legrand.
25 feet of SJOOW 12AWG 3 conductor cable - Cerrowire.

It looks like this:



You mentioned you have a Square-D panel. Likely, it is a QO type home load center, so you would need this breaker to fill those 2 spots: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbm16Z684/R-100032386/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053


In regards to why you would want to use it - yes, higher voltage means less heating of the wire because of the lower amperage. As a rule of thumb, you can double the voltage to get half the amps. In practice however, computer powre supplies tend to be a few percent more efficient at higher voltage, so you would actually be using less than half the amps at exactly double the voltage. The greater efficiency will directly result in fewer watts being used, although the actual reduction will be fairly small and may or may not be worth the switchover in terms of payback and profitability.

Generally, a little cord heating isn't a major issue, but if it feels hot to the touch, I would start to get worried. Additionally, mining is a continuous load, so you should only be using 80% of the breaker rating as per Code. 15 x 120V = 1800 watts per 15 amp breaker at full power, and 80% of that would be 1800 x 0.8 = 1440 watts continuously. If you switched to a 20 amp 240 volt breaker, the calculations would be like this: 20 x 240V = 4800 watts full power rating, and then 4800 watts x 0.8 = 3840 watts for a continuous load, as per the Code de-rating.

I don't know how close your panel is to your mining operation, but I would not recommend that you use your existing wiring with a new breaker. If it has a 15A 120V breaker on it now, it is likely 14 AWG, which is too small for an upgrade. That's one of the reasons I built my power strip with a 25 foot cable. Additionally, you could replace my 12AWG SJ cord with some 10AWG of almost any type, and switch to a 30A breaker, but this would probably be a Code violation since each of the outlets is rated for 20A max, not 30A. If you wanted to go 30A at 250V, you would probably want to start over with a commercial PDU and special 250V IEC connectors, instead of my homebrewed setup.

Anyways, I can offer this power strip to you for about half of what it cost me to build, which would be about $75. You might be able to match that by ordering all the parts on eBay or somewhere instead of buying them at Home Depot.
legendary
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July 18, 2012, 06:43:48 AM
#5
I'm really curious about 250v.. I understand almost all PC power supplies can take anything from 100-264v and 50-60hz frequency without no problems and adjust automatically. On my circuit breaker box (uses 1 inch square d breakers), I have 2 empty slots left (they are adjacent to each other). My AC power is normally 110-118v depending on load according to my 2 kill a watts. Is there some sort of circuit breaker I can put in to make it double the voltage (calling it 250v, but its probably less)? Right now I'm pulling 19A + an unknown amount from a 20A 115v breaker, and I'm worried that I'll trip it or burn something out. I kind of want to reliably be able to pull 4000-5000 watts without being in danger of frying any wires or breakers or anything.

Also, I noticed my cords are pretty warm/hot. I got about 1125 watts going through a 14 guage cord on a surge protector/multi outlet/whatever you call them, and it's pretty hot. Assuming the multi outlet can also accept 250v (which it probably cant, not the correct plugin) and I run the same amount of watts on 250v, would the cord be cooler to the touch? Only ask since I heard less amps going through a cord means less heat.

Will running 250v and subsequently lower amps compared to 110v mean less lost power? I know PC power supplies like to have a higher input power for efficiency, just wondering if there will be other places for power to be leaked in the form of heat, such as cords, circuit breaker, outlets, etc

Sorry if I'm talking like a noob, I don't know how to describe the situation correctly. Also sorry for asking so many questions. I just feel I need to reliably supply more (and better) power to my rigs. drawing 2100 watts from a 15A 115v sockets sure feels wrong.. even though the circuit breaker was switched with a 20A so it doesnt trip so easily.
rjk
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1ngldh
July 17, 2012, 10:29:07 AM
#4
Bump for great prices!
rjk
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1ngldh
July 16, 2012, 12:43:00 PM
#3
These are good as new. Perfect for someone getting started with a new rig, or for the seasoned builder adding to his collection. Prices lowered a bit, these are a great deal with no dust and hardly any use.
rjk
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1ngldh
July 13, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
#2
Bump, these are available for immediate shipment!
rjk
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1ngldh
July 12, 2012, 11:50:39 AM
#1
ALL PSUs SOLD, see below for the custom power strip.

For sale are 3  2 power supplies.  ONE PSU REMAINING PLEASE NOTE! All of these have had their power cables changed to 15A 250V connectors, so I could plug them into my special high voltage power strip. I can ship the power cables to you with the special connector (pictured below), or I can ship with the connector removed and the stripped wires exposed. I can also ship without the cable if you want to provide your own. Please let me know. The connectors used are the P&S Legrand 6-15P plugs, and you can get them at your local home center. You can also get the "normal" 5-15P plugs at your home center if you wish to replace these. Pic:





UPDATE: I'm adding my special power strip that I built for this application in here. The details about it are as follows:

It uses these parts:
Raco modular metal boxes - you can remove the sides and bolt them together.
P&S Legrand plugs - chop the end off of your existing cords an bolt these on. 6-15P for 15 amps at 250V.
20 amp 250V outlets - HD doesn't carry 15A versions, but that's not a problem since it will work with both 15 and 20 amp plugs.
Sectional wall plates - 2 of these, they go on each end. HD doesn't have them.
Sectional wall plates - 4 of these, they go in the middle. HD doesn't have these either.
20A 250V 3-pin twistlock connector - L6-20P P&S Legrand.
25 feet of SJOOW 12AWG 3 conductor cable - Cerrowire.

It looks like this:




I'll sell it for $75  $45, and include the twistlock receptacle as well, that mates to the plug that is already on the end of the cord.



The first PSU is the 1300 watt Rosewill Lightning PSU, which has an 80plus Gold rating and active PFC. It includes all the detachable cables stored in the nylon pouch, and is guaranteed against DOA. It worked excellently while I used it for a large rig. Also, pretty colors. Grin Asking $185  $175 with shipping. THIS PSU IS SOLD

The second PSU is the superb PC Power and Cooling Silencer 910 watt unit. It might be one of the last excellent PSUs that PCP&C made since they were eaten by OCZ. It will happily run at full power for as long as you want it to, and is SLI certified. It also has a 7 year warranty, although it will easily outlast that. It is 80plus Silver rated and has active PFC. Asking $105  $85 with shipping. THIS PSU IS SOLD

The third PSU is the Cooler Master GX 750w. It too is rated for 80plus with up to 85% efficiency, has active PFC, and I have had no issues with the 2 that I have had. Asking $60  $45 with shipping. THIS PSU IS SOLD

http://i.imgur.com/2in6s.jpg 1300 watt Rosewill Lightning (SOLD)

http://i.imgur.com/4kx5O.jpg
910 watt PC Power and Cooling Silencer (SOLD)

http://i.imgur.com/jwXcZ.jpg 750 watt Cooler Master GX750W (SOLD)
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