Topic: [WTS] Firearms - Federally Licensed Dealer - page 2. (Read 3650 times)

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Having a concealed carry permit (CCP) greatly simplifies the headache of dealing with FFL transfers. I Highly recommend that anyone interested in owning a firearm consider applying for one within their respective state.

Salutations everyone, This is David. The Company username is finally out of Newbie Limbo. Please forward any  questions related to sales of firearms to this username. In addition, if anyone is interested I am posting our FFL information so that anyone who is considering buying can do their background check on us. if you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

Thanks again for all your support.

Best,
David

Verify our FFL here :
https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/
and enter "1-59-XXX-XX-XX-18340" on the ATF website

By the way, for any other Kansas residents who might be reading this:  If you get your CCH (conceal carry handgun) permit, you won't have to wait for the NCIS check.  You'll still need to have the firearm shipped to the FFL, and you'll still have to fill out the paperwork, but you won't have to wait to have it called in to make sure you're OK.  It's because Kansas does a very thorough background check during the 90-180 days that are required for applying for a CCH.
 
I mention this for you folks in other states that allow conceal carry.  It doesn't usually take long at all (average for me was 5 minutes, but it on my most recent gun purchase, it took a few days during the recent firearm legislation scare when NCIS was swamped with requests).  Just another option to check in on.  Even if you never carry a concealed weapon or even plan to, it might be something to look into and consider.

So in response to ajk's question, I wanted to post some information for everyone to look at in case anyone else is wondering about what the process entails. Please read below for details and please understand, this is a work in progress, and will change as we figure out a smooth method of processing BTC transactions.



As for the requirements for transferring a firearm the process is pretty straightforward albeit a little involved the first time.  I'll try to explain the process as clearly as possible, but be sure to ask me any questions and above all, start to get familiar with the gun laws in your state.

I can't stress this enough. Especially since this is your first gun purchase, knowing how, when, and where to and not to use or carry is by far the most important part of this process. You don't want to end up in trouble with this. People have went away for a long time for dumb mistakes. Just please, read and ask questions.

The NRA has a pretty awesome site that takes you through the laws in each state and is a great resource. I Highly recommend taking a look at it.
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws.aspx

You will need the following information in order to begin a firearm transfer:

VERY IMPORTANT!

I highly recommend anyone interested go through this form and answer blocks 11 "A" thru "L" as well as 13-15 and questions before buying. If you Answer "Yes" to any of the questions 11B thru 11L, then you are ineligible to purchase a firearm and we must stop the transfer process.

Here is the link to the Form you will be submitting for background verification:
http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf


1. Look up your state firearm laws and confirm that the firearm that you are interested in is permitted within your state. This is something that your receiving FFL can help you out with when you call them. Just give them the Make and Model number and they should be able to tell you if it is legal with in the state. Which leads us to the next step

2. Locate an FFL Licensed gun dealer in your area which you would like to pick the firearm up at. Be prepared to pay a small fee in USD for the background check / transfer. This fee usually ranges between $20 - $50 USD but is ultimate up to the dealer, so shop around if it is any higher.

3. Contact your selected Local FFL and ask them the following:

- You are preparing to purchase a firearm from out of state, and would they be willing to handle the transfer.

- Ask them for a copy of their Federal Firearms License (FFL) Certificate. We will need this to confirm with ATF if they are legally authorized to handle the transfer of the firearm. Once you receive a copy, scan it - or have them send it to me directly at [email protected]  

4. Once we receive a copy of their FFL Certificate and we have confirmed that they are permitted to take possession, We can broker the deal between the Escrow.

5. Once the Escrow confirms that funds have been transferred, we shall ship the firearm to your FFL.

6. Once the local FFL receives your order, you will have to go to the store and they will walk you through the process of transferring the firearm. This involves submitting to a background check and filling out the BATF Form 4473 mentioned above. Again, your local FFL will talk you through this.

7. Once the background check is complete (usually takes about 15-20 min) and any necessary waiting period has expired, Take home your new best friend and and notify your escrow that it is safe to release funds

8. Tell your Bitcoin buddies about us, and help us grow.


Again, this process will change as we move forward, however it should provide a guideline of what to expect.

Thanks again for your interest,

Best,
David

Shoot me a PM when you have some time, and if interested. I have some ideas i'd like to bounce off a like-minded individual (relating to btc and SHTF).

Hi

I think this is a great thing going here, Everyone should exercise their right to bear firearms simply because id rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it,

id be happy to be your first customer want to PM me and walk me through how we can do this

Right about now, its very difficult. There are definite monopolies and favoritism going on within the distribution chain, which doesn't help things much. But if you can hang in there, there's money to be made.

I agree. I've made it something of a mission to get other on board with using the Bitcoin, I only hope that group-think has a chance to work its magic and draw others into accepting Crypto-Currencies as a whole. But its a long road ahead and I can only hope that we are successful in this campaign.

Best wishes to you as well friend. Thank you for the kind words. I'll be checking your site out next time I buy Silver rounds.

I agree completely with that first line, this is uncharted territory, and the only two examples I have seen of companies trying to offer this look to be abandoned projects... albeit I really haven't dug to deeply to find out more information on them.

But the important thing to distinguish here is that the process will be the exact same as if you were purchasing with USD. We will only ship to a Confirmed, and Licensed FFL's where you will have to go, present proof that your not a Felon, or Mentally incompetent individual, pay a small fee, and have the firearm transferred to you in accordance with ATF Rules.

Hard business to be in. I live just up the road from you on the Treasure Coast. My local guy charges $15 for receive + NICS. Combine that with some place like Bud's Gun shop's free shipping, and it's got to be tough for you to get business.

This is just another piece in the huge global-economic puzzle that the bitcoin community needs to remove the stigma of only existing to circumvent law (whether the laws are just or not).

Must of us use bitcoin only because it is an inherently better monetary system than anything else available today. Free-market's and the belief that the initiation of force is never justified dictates that the people will decide what is the best monetary system available and chose or not chose to use it based on their own initiative.

Agora Commodities wishes you the best of luck in your honorable endeavor

This is, at once, a very cool and very scary post to see on bitcointalk.

I myself would not be buying firearms, but I wonder if its too easy to dupe the system to allow this to be a widespread practice.

In reality, though, I think that there are enough other channels to get illegal firearms that I don't see this becoming widely abused. In any case, please keep us updated on the success of your venture.

Sorry man, your going to run into that same problem even if you buy with fiat. The government has unfortunately turned the firearms industry into a controlled monopoly so your going to have to pay for someone to receive your firearm and go through the trouble of the background check no matter where you go.

I live in Florida, and unfortunately I cannot do end-user transfers as this was a requirement put on us by ATF order to get licensed (we are only allowed to ship/transfer to FFL's). So unfortunately, we cannot assist in this portion. We must ether ship or deliver to a FFL that authorized to do end user transfers.

 But, if your looking for advantages of purchasing from me I guess I can list a couple perks.

1. You can purchase with Bitcoin!
2. Prices are based off of a dollar for dollar exchange rate.  Exchange rate is calculated off of the High/Low average exchange rate at the time of purchase, and shall be referenced off of The genesis Block market  http://markets.thegenesisblock.com/
3. All firearms are factory new and come with full manufacturer's warranty. We do not sell used firearms.
4. There is no up-charge for using bitcoin for payment.
5. I don't kill you on prices, I only charge a fixed 15% on top of what I pay for the firearm from the distributors.
6. You get to pay with a totally wiz-bang, unregulated currency in which nobody elsewhere is willing to accept in such a specialized market.

Other than that dude, I would love your business but if your on the fence I understand.

Can put in a request and as soon as I see one available, I would have to give you a call with a spot price however, as These things usually only pop up once in a blue moon lately. PM me with your contact info and I'll look into it. At current prices, your looking at between $500-550. Let me know if your interested.

yo rizzman...
any chance you can put in an order for a keltec PMR-30 for me at an honest price? LMK

Here's an example of one with bayonet lug.  It's only on the 20" barrels (I think on both the 590 and 590a1).  You can see a close up on the 4th photo that shows the bayonet lug.
 
 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=357850523

Dude, I hear ya. Waiting for my KNC orders to come so I can Coin-up myself.

But sure, send me PM when your getting close to having the coin and I'll see if I can track down what your looking for. I especially like the idea you have with the 590 - didn't realize they had one with the Bayonet Lug - would be great to have around the house for the girls... Good Idea.

I have access to most of the major distributors, so assuming that what you are looking for is currently in production, I can get it. Just let me know if you are serious and I'll put in a request.


As for anyone else that is interested the same applies, if it is currently manufactured and falls within the definition of a Class 1 firearm I can get it. Just let me know and I'll get you a quote.

Thanks for the words of support dude. Hope I can do my part to turn it around... Much appreciated

While I cannot yet afford guns with bitcoin (simply because I recently cashed out what little I had left to buy some crap), I am interested in the following guns.  Once I have enough, I'll be more serious in considering.. could you get the following once I'm looking:
 
 
1.  Dan Wesson Pistol Pack.  I understand I'd be looking towards $800 on up to $1500 for this.  I would be looking for at least the "basic" 2/4/6/8 in. barrels (with tool of course), but after purchasing would be really interested in larger barrels that were made for the pistol pack.  I think there was a 12 and maybe a 15 inch barrel made?
 
2.  Mossberg 590 (or 590a1) with bayonet lug.  Beyond that don't really care, I just want one with the bayonet lug, I'll have it for home defense and keep my bayonet permanently attached to it
 
So again, can't buy right now, or in the near future, but would love it if you would be willing to find/sell those once I can afford