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sr. member
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newbie
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The link http://www.verifiedacc.com/#!kontakt/c24vq and the Wiz-hosted site, appears to be broken....
newbie
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I need a verified Paypal Account PM me.As soon as possible.
newbie
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Has anyone ... from within this forum (not the website you claim is yours) purchased from them and can you vouch for them?

To the OP do you know how escrow works?  Choose an escrow service to whom you give the tracking of the pack when you ship it and it lands (is delivered, confirmed) the escrow service releases your funds to you.  

There are escrow provider's who don't need or care about what the buyer cares to say or try to do/say to scam a free product our of, there are many who only require proof that you've delivered and if the buyer has dispute that they must provide picture's with succinct explanation for how they were 'scammed' by you and why they should have their funds returned to them with stringent guidelines by the escrow provider.

Yes, I do know how escrow works. But don't you think we could send an empty box and when it arrived to destination ask for the funds from escrow holder, right? If the buyer need to confirm it works (not just to receive the shipment) then he could ask for few weeks trial period, right? Moreover, there are a lot of scammers here and the buyer could simply false report he is not satisfied and we will never get paid, right? It is not simple to use escrow with our service.

But the MAIN REASON why we still dont use escrow is because we are paid immediately and why should we change this and wait for the payment? We have our clients and they pay immediately. We are not able to make hundreds of these accounts in one day and we have enough clients who are willing to pay upfront so I really don't see any point at the moment in changing our business model and start waiting for the payment which we currently are able to have immediately. I guess this is not hard to understand.  

You say you're not amateur but:
a. You don't use an escrow service ... on your website, or on here ... period ... that's retarded ... what 'professional' vendor does not use escrow?  Come on now.

Please name professional vendors who does use it on their website Wink There are some, but are in minority. It is usual to pay, and then to get what you paid.

b. Don't even seem to understand how escrow works, the buyer can't hold you hostage through escrow just by saying they were unsatisfied, if they receive what you advertise the escrow service releases your funds to you.  DNMs have been doing this for so many year's with so many market's with so many scamming fuckhead scum that escrow services have learned all the little tricks these bitches try to pull and they offer the seller the exact equal protection that they offer the buyer.  YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS IF YOU ARE NOT AN AMATEUR

Already answered.

c.  How the hell are any of us supposed to know that that site if even yours?  I could start a thread here and say I am long time established seller, I are long time on the site http://www.verifiedacc.com/ just believe me because it's my site.  What you question it's my site or not?  I am not amateur it's my site ... do you see the LOGIC FAIL here?

Smiley What to say on this? Well, try to send an e-mail from contact form at the website. Feel free to mention this thread and VerAc1 account. We all are familiar with this thread so whoever read the mail will not be surprised. Feel free to ask for confirmation if this is our thread.

d. Where is your grams account?

e. Where is your PGP so we can even make an EFFORT to recognize that you are the real owner of that site and not just some dude who created an account on bitcointalk.org and said that site is his so we must trust he is legit and not not an amateur.

If you're pro you at least link us your grams, your PGP, a market, source, credible outside vendor SOMETHING.

Should I take IDs of all team members and post pics here? Smiley
Would you like to be our client and to see we posted your info here and let know to the whole world you bought your PayPal account? Wink I guess not Wink

But I relent ... has anyone (in good standing with a high reputation account here) on this forum tried this guy's service and had success and can vouch?  
If not, you're going to have to at least give out a few free vouches to high ranking member's (i'm not trying to mooch a vouch, i'm not a high ranking member and thus not suited to be a credible vouch for your service).

We would definitely think about giving free accounts to a few members if we were in lack of clients. Since we are not, there is no point for doing that. And yes, we had some sales to clients who came to us from this forum. No way we will mention any of our clients, it would be completely unprofessional. Maybe they will post by themselves, or ignore this thread, their choice. We get some email questions from the members of this forum which was not converted to sales. Some people from this forum asked for something we are not offering, so we answered we cant help in such a cases. If we were scammers we would take their money anyway.
Anyway, we had only a few sales to members of this forum. Our clients come mostly from other sources.

Why am I still going on?  Cuz I actually have real interest in such a product/service, but I need proof of some sort (that's not you linking a site that sell's the shit and just saying it's your site, that proves nothing.  I own google.com biches, mmk).

Do you even have a PGP keypair so your buyer's can send you their sensitive info (shipping address) NOT IN PLAINTEXT ?  You MUST have a pub key if you're not a RANK AMATEUR so PLEASE tell me you have .. even KNOW what that is lol.

Well, good for you if you own Google.com Smiley We are satisfied even with VerifiedAcc.com Wink Feel free to send an e-mail and ask if VerAc1 at Bitcointalk.org is our account.

You MUST have a pub key if you're not a RANK AMATEUR

Why? There are so much easier ways to send and receive sensitive info.

Where is this website of yours hosted and to whom does it belong btw?

It is our website, don't worry. Smiley I mentioned the simplest way to check.



At the moment we are out of stock with accounts which have added US bank account + physical debit card, but during the next week we will have them again. If you are "brave enough"  Roll Eyes to order without escrow just contact us and reserve one of the upcoming accounts for yourself.

At the end, I understand it is hard to trust someone at this forum, but we tried to answer on all the questions in this thread. Verified Acc. is not here to argue, we came to make business. If you have doubts, no problem, but please try to understand our explanation about not accepting escrow at this moment. It has nothing with fraud, it is simply not necessary to us.
jr. member
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Has anyone ... from within this forum (not the website you claim is yours) purchased from them and can you vouch for them?

To the OP do you know how escrow works?  Choose an escrow service to whom you give the tracking of the pack when you ship it and it lands (is delivered, confirmed) the escrow service releases your funds to you. 

There are escrow provider's who don't need or care about what the buyer cares to say or try to do/say to scam a free product our of, there are many who only require proof that you've delivered and if the buyer has dispute that they must provide picture's with succinct explanation for how they were 'scammed' by you and why they should have their funds returned to them with stringent guidelines by the escrow provider.

You say you're not amateur but:
a. You don't use an escrow service ... on your website, or on here ... period ... that's retarded ... what 'professional' vendor does not use escrow?  Come on now.

b. Don't even seem to understand how escrow works, the buyer can't hold you hostage through escrow just by saying they were unsatisfied, if they receive what you advertise the escrow service releases your funds to you.  DNMs have been doing this for so many year's with so many market's with so many scamming fuckhead scum that escrow services have learned all the little tricks these bitches try to pull and they offer the seller the exact equal protection that they offer the buyer.  YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS IF YOU ARE NOT AN AMATEUR

c.  How the hell are any of us supposed to know that that site if even yours?  I could start a thread here and say I am long time established seller, I are long time on the site http://www.verifiedacc.com/ just believe me because it's my site.  What you question it's my site or not?  I am not amateur it's my site ... do you see the LOGIC FAIL here?

d. Where is your grams account?

e. Where is your PGP so we can even make an EFFORT to recognize that you are the real owner of that site and not just some dude who created an account on bitcointalk.org and said that site is his so we must trust he is legit and not not an amateur.

If you're pro you at least link us your grams, your PGP, a market, source, credible outside vendor SOMETHING.

But I relent ... has anyone (in good standing with a high reputation account here) on this forum tried this guy's service and had success and can vouch? 
If not, you're going to have to at least give out a few free vouches to high ranking member's (i'm not trying to mooch a vouch, i'm not a high ranking member and thus not suited to be a credible vouch for your service).

Why am I still going on?  Cuz I actually have real interest in such a product/service, but I need proof of some sort (that's not you linking a site that sell's the shit and just saying it's your site, that proves nothing.  I own google.com biches, mmk).

Do you even have a PGP keypair so your buyer's can send you their sensitive info (shipping address) NOT IN PLAINTEXT ?  You MUST have a pub key if you're not a RANK AMATEUR so PLEASE tell me you have .. even KNOW what that is lol.

Where is this website of yours hosted and to whom does it belong btw?
newbie
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newbie
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We are selling verified PayPal accounts. Its our core business, but we can sell eBay seller accounts too, or PayPal + eBay package.


Verified PayPal account with added U.S. bank account and real physical debit card + SIM card + IP address (12 months) from the country where account was opened. You will be able to withdraw funds and cash out using the ATM card which is included.
Our accounts are fully verified (not with VCC or VBA), limits are removed, and don't have pending balance so received funds are available immediately. We will need your address (P.O. box is OK) to send you debit card and SIM card with phone number which is inside the PP account.
Price: $165, or equivalent in BTC (BTC-e price).

Variations possible. For example, if you need just a verified PayPal account (without added U.S. bank account, debit ATM card etc.) then the price is $25 only. Just stealth eBay seller account is $20 only (could be opened at eBay.com or eBay.co.uk).
We can include eBay seller account, or you can order just an eBay seller account, without PayPay.
You can order verified PayPal account with IP address, but without debit card, if you prefer that way. We are flexible.

Our accounts are pure stealth accounts. No way they could be linked with any suspended account as we are experienced in creating stealth accounts.

Please contact us with any questions you may have. It would be good that you contact us through http://www.verifiedacc.com/#!kontakt/c24vq, as we are not regularly active on this forum. Our website is still not on English, but you will receive an answer on English.




Hi because I am going to Italian Police, for an inquiry, can you give me your address to added your thread as proof of scam that i get, with some faggot scum that used this sistem to scam other people??

I don't say that you scam me, but to explain this faggot sistem also for Italian police.
Thank you


We never scammed anyone, so neither you. Sorry to hear someone scammed you, but you will have to search further to find your scammer.
We don't even make any loss to the banks. We are here to help people who need new or additional PayPal account, not to scam anyone. Neither our clients neither any third party suffering any losses. We don't sell stolen accounts or cards so we cant cause any loss to anyone. We create brand new accounts and brand new debit cars.

Sorry, we are not willing to reveal our know-how, to anyone.
It would be interested to see what you will say to police why you even tried to purchase some similar services Wink I guess they will not believe that you wanted a stealth account because you don't like your own name Smiley By the way, we also offer verified PayPal accounts with the real name of the client, if he wants it that way.
newbie
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I agree, but tried to explain in one of the previous posts why we don't accept escrow at this moment.
legendary
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We are selling verified PayPal accounts. Its our core business, but we can sell eBay seller accounts too, or PayPal + eBay package.


Verified PayPal account with added U.S. bank account and real physical debit card + SIM card + IP address (12 months) from the country where account was opened. You will be able to withdraw funds and cash out using the ATM card which is included.
Our accounts are fully verified (not with VCC or VBA), limits are removed, and don't have pending balance so received funds are available immediately. We will need your address (P.O. box is OK) to send you debit card and SIM card with phone number which is inside the PP account.
Price: $165, or equivalent in BTC (BTC-e price).

Variations possible. For example, if you need just a verified PayPal account (without added U.S. bank account, debit ATM card etc.) then the price is $25 only. Just stealth eBay seller account is $20 only (could be opened at eBay.com or eBay.co.uk).
We can include eBay seller account, or you can order just an eBay seller account, without PayPay.
You can order verified PayPal account with IP address, but without debit card, if you prefer that way. We are flexible.

Our accounts are pure stealth accounts. No way they could be linked with any suspended account as we are experienced in creating stealth accounts.

Please contact us with any questions you may have. It would be good that you contact us through http://www.verifiedacc.com/#!kontakt/c24vq, as we are not regularly active on this forum. Our website is still not on English, but you will receive an answer on English.




Hi because I am going to Italian Police, for an inquiry, can you give me your address to added your thread as proof of scam that i get, with some faggot scum that used this sistem to scam other people??

I don't say that you scam me, but to explain this faggot sistem also for Italian police.
Thank you
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https://keybase.io/masterp FREE Escrow Service

Agree with you, but please consider our situation. We could purchase an old account and start as reputable and aged user. Would that be any better? Many people on this forum are interested to sell their accounts, but we are not interested. Also, I am pretty sure there are many people who would insist on escrow even if we were active here for years.



No, not really. Even with old/reputable users, transactions would still often involve a third party escrow if the amount was high enough for either party. But not only that, the service/product you're selling is also somewhat risky from a buyer's perspective which is why most people here are demanding you accept escrow.
newbie
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I can't imagine this is legit? Newbie member for starters, selling clearly fraudulent accounts. Really?

Would you be satisfied if we would purchase older account? Wink

Why it would not be legit? Why our accounts would be fraudulent?
We have an excellent know-how, and the people on right places. We are in position to create our own business model. There are people who trust us, and there are skeptic people like the most on this forum. We are OK with that, as long as we have enough clients to keep us on positive balance. Believe it or not, but we have expenses with each account. If you think you can not trust us, feel free to search for some other seller. 
newbie
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Thank you for your suggestion, but we have one for you too. Start working on your reputation Wink Recently it was -8, now it is -17. Not nice.

We are considering allowing escrow, but still not decided to use it. We are not 15 years old seller who want to scam someone and get quick money. We operate worldwide and have official website. Our numerous sales outside this forum allow us to create our own rules and our own business model. We would like to get a few customers from this great forum two, but if that means we should change our business model then we will have to live without having sales on this forum.


Anyone can claim to be anything, it doesn't matter how much reputation you have from your years of doing business. The irreversible nature of Bitcoin makes escrow to be almost essential, especially when dealing with a member who is relatively new here. You might have experience and reputation from other sites/businesses, but based on what everyone can see here on bitcointalk, you are a newbie. And nobody is willing to send any amount of funds to a newbie without escrow.

If the services and products you're providing here are legitimate then you should have no problems using escrow. If you're  scared of dishonest customers who may want to try to screw you over with escrow, then it is up to you to choose who you wish to deal with as a seller. There is no good reason for you to not accept escrow here.

Below are two lists of users who offer escrow services on this forum:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrow-list-108716
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-escrows-trade-safely-855778

Do your own research on ones you may want to use.


Agree with you, but please consider our situation. We could purchase an old account and start as reputable and aged user. Would that be any better? Many people on this forum are interested to sell their accounts, but we are not interested. Also, I am pretty sure there are many people who would insist on escrow even if we were active here for years.

The fact is that we have a product/service which you will not be able to get somewhere else at this price. Well, maybe you could find it elsewhere at similar price, but it would not be easy. Remember, we offer fully verified PayPal account with added US bank account AND PHYSICAL DEBIT CARD. You can get this for only $95 USD + $10 for shipping, or for $165 + $10 shipping if you need matching IP address too. This is almost unique product/service and we already have a lot of orders. Please find similar service on this forum, if you can. We don't sell anonymous gift cards with our PayPal account. We have genius cards included.   

We are a team of several members and we are working hard to deliver on time. Please note that our accounts are NOT "one minute made accounts". We don't verify with some VCC or VBA. We verify each account with a real bank card which we create specially for this purpose. One member of our team is in the position to enable this for us. Further, we need to create and verify US bank account too. Then we need to wait for debit card of US bank account to be delivered to us. Then we need to add it to PayPal and then your order is ready for shipment. We cant produce hundreds of these accounts per day. Our staff is limited, and each account takes time to be ready. Sometimes we have a few accounts in stock, but they get sold pretty fast. At the moment we are not interested to prolong getting paid by using escrow as we already have enough sales in which we are paid immediately.

This forum is full of scammers, but we are not among them. I tried to explain why we don't accept escrow at this moment.   
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i only this useful if someone had a horrible experience with paypal holding funds for 180 days.
newbie
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I can't imagine this is legit? Newbie member for starters, selling clearly fraudulent accounts. Really?
hero member
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https://keybase.io/masterp FREE Escrow Service

Thank you for your suggestion, but we have one for you too. Start working on your reputation Wink Recently it was -8, now it is -17. Not nice.

We are considering allowing escrow, but still not decided to use it. We are not 15 years old seller who want to scam someone and get quick money. We operate worldwide and have official website. Our numerous sales outside this forum allow us to create our own rules and our own business model. We would like to get a few customers from this great forum two, but if that means we should change our business model then we will have to live without having sales on this forum.


Anyone can claim to be anything, it doesn't matter how much reputation you have from your years of doing business. The irreversible nature of Bitcoin makes escrow to be almost essential, especially when dealing with a member who is relatively new here. You might have experience and reputation from other sites/businesses, but based on what everyone can see here on bitcointalk, you are a newbie. And nobody is willing to send any amount of funds to a newbie without escrow.

If the services and products you're providing here are legitimate then you should have no problems using escrow. If you're  scared of dishonest customers who may want to try to screw you over with escrow, then it is up to you to choose who you wish to deal with as a seller. There is no good reason for you to not accept escrow here.

Below are two lists of users who offer escrow services on this forum:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrow-list-108716
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-escrows-trade-safely-855778

Do your own research on ones you may want to use.
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can anyone vouch for this?
newbie
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if u dont want to accept escrow then I wud suggest to close sales now and restart when u r willing.Bcoz without escrow noone will be willing to trust a newbie with trade.

Thank you for your suggestion, but we have one for you too. Start working on your reputation Wink Recently it was -8, now it is -17. Not nice.

We are considering allowing escrow, but still not decided to use it. We are not 15 years old seller who want to scam someone and get quick money. We operate worldwide and have official website. Our numerous sales outside this forum allow us to create our own rules and our own business model. We would like to get a few customers from this great forum two, but if that means we should change our business model then we will have to live without having sales on this forum.

sr. member
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if u dont want to accept escrow then I wud suggest to close sales now and restart when u r willing.Bcoz without escrow noone will be willing to trust a newbie with trade.
newbie
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If that is NO limit! which I hardly believe.

Is $165 inc shipping?

Do u accept escrow?

+$10 for shipping worldwide (standard air mail with tracking number)

We are thinking about starting offering escrow only at this forum, but at the moment we still don't accept it, sorry. We have enough sales outside the forum and we offer premium product and service so we don't want to wait for the payment and risk to be scammed. The buyer could simply make false report and say he is not satisfied and scam us.
We run official website at www.VerifiedAcc.com
sr. member
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If that is NO limit! which I hardly believe.

Is $165 inc shipping?

Do u accept escrow?
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