Nobody should deal with this guy.
He will take your funds go away come back after next day and refund 85%.
He should not be dealt with till he pays my full $61. Remaining balance.
Topic: [WTS] [WTB] BTC Paypal or Skrill or nettler and perfectmoney and many more - page 2. (Read 32531 times)
February 23, 2018, 01:24:45 PM
February 23, 2018, 01:16:12 PM
Coinman1 complete my funds.
I have given you enough Time.
If you ready to accept exactly what you send +fesses you pay then I can send your BTC right now I have given you enough Time.
I am really sorry but I can't pay you more than what you pay
Because of BTC price is Down
What silly nonsense talk.
You have not paid what I sent.
We talked in bitcoin $$$ dollar value not unit value.
I sent $598.5 and you sent $537.
You owe me $61.2
I will surely escalate this issue if you Dont pay me.
I have been patient enough.
February 23, 2018, 12:18:55 PM
Coinman1 complete my funds.
I have given you enough Time.
If you ready to accept exactly what you send +fesses you pay then I can send your BTC right now I have given you enough Time.
I am really sorry but I can't pay you more than what you pay
Because of BTC price is Down
February 23, 2018, 11:30:28 AM
Coinman1 complete my funds.
I have given you enough Time.
I have given you enough Time.
February 22, 2018, 05:54:21 AM
Please check this screenshot here.
https://prnt.sc/ii82yn
I asked for $1100 btc to $1100 skrill.
This is dollar value and he agreed.
Then here
https://prnt.sc/ii82lo
I asked for $370 btc to Skrill he agreed and he referred to same rate which is 1:1.
So I sent him $598.5 which I have shown transaction I'd and screenshot in previous post here.
He refunded $537 which us less what I paid at 1:1 rate we agreed.
He owe me $62.1
He never mentioned any btc unit everything was $$$ value of btc.
https://prnt.sc/ii82yn
I asked for $1100 btc to $1100 skrill.
This is dollar value and he agreed.
Then here
https://prnt.sc/ii82lo
I asked for $370 btc to Skrill he agreed and he referred to same rate which is 1:1.
So I sent him $598.5 which I have shown transaction I'd and screenshot in previous post here.
He refunded $537 which us less what I paid at 1:1 rate we agreed.
He owe me $62.1
He never mentioned any btc unit everything was $$$ value of btc.
February 22, 2018, 05:39:15 AM
Your dispute lasts for the second day. From what I see, the most logical solution, satisfying both sides, if COINMAN1 will send skrill fund what they agreed, and this should not be a problem now, because he states that trade 2000usd skrill daily, so, it should have a sufficient amount and brazilicoins (via escrow)will return btc (amount what he received from COINMAN1)
Sorry like I said I'm a trader and my client who owns this funds reported me to police already.
I have paid my client everything back and gone to police to clear my name.
He coinman1 must refund me $62.1 which is balance remaining from what I sent him on agreed 1:1 dollar value.
He should have sent the skrill as at then I was ready to rake skrill. I gave him tow options, send Skrill or refund me. He went for refund.
So now what I need is for him to finish the refund and balance me $62.1 remaining.
February 22, 2018, 05:36:47 AM
I just read the whole conversation. COINMAN1 & brazilcoins were agreed to $$$ Unit, so COINMAN1 must pay the exact amount that brazilcoins sent him regardless of BTC unit. Delay of COINMAN1 caused the loss, if COINMAN1 completed the deal in time, there wouldn't be any problem.
This is the exact judgement.
We talked on rate 1:1
I have bought PayPal from him last year. We did 1:1. The amount of btc dollar is what he sent to me as he received.
We talked $1100 of btc to $1100 of skrill and its 1:1 rate.
We talked again of $370 and he said same rate 1:1.
Then I sent $598.5 for $598.5 skrill which us in $$$ value of 1:1.
He should refund me same dollar value amount of btc.
Coinman1 you owe me $62.1 pls balance me before I will escalate this issue.
February 22, 2018, 05:32:51 AM
Your dispute lasts for the second day. From what I see, the most logical solution, satisfying both sides, if COINMAN1 will send skrill fund what they agreed, and this should not be a problem now, because he states that trade 2000usd skrill daily, so, it should have a sufficient amount and brazilicoins (via escrow)will return btc (amount what he received from COINMAN1)
February 22, 2018, 04:53:59 AM
I just read the whole conversation. COINMAN1 & brazilcoins were agreed to $$$ Unit, so COINMAN1 must pay the exact amount that brazilcoins sent him regardless of BTC unit. Delay of COINMAN1 caused the loss, if COINMAN1 completed the deal in time, there wouldn't be any problem.
Only 1 question how can you complete the deal if you are offline 
And where you see we are agreed on $$$
He connected me for deal his BTC my skrill rates are 1:1 he never said or even ask that we r dealing in $$$$ etc if he want to deal in $$$ he must ask me for that but he didn't
And it's common sense that you are dealing for $ because $ is the only logical currency that you can trade with skrill. Don't tell me that you wanted to give him skrill BTC. -_-
February 22, 2018, 04:45:24 AM
I just read the whole conversation. COINMAN1 & brazilcoins were agreed to $$$ Unit, so COINMAN1 must pay the exact amount that brazilcoins sent him regardless of BTC unit. Delay of COINMAN1 caused the loss, if COINMAN1 completed the deal in time, there wouldn't be any problem.
Only 1 question how can you complete the deal if you are offline And where you see we are agreed on $$$
He connected me for deal his BTC my skrill rates are 1:1 he never said or even ask that we r dealing in $$$$ etc if he want to deal in $$$ he must ask me for that but he didn't .I still respect for your time and your advice thanks for that I am still seeing the farum members opinion
I think let the zazrab decide
February 22, 2018, 04:38:21 AM
I just read the whole conversation. COINMAN1 & brazilcoins were agreed to $$$ Unit, so COINMAN1 must pay the exact amount that brazilcoins sent him regardless of BTC unit. Delay of COINMAN1 caused the loss, if COINMAN1 completed the deal in time, there wouldn't be any problem.
February 22, 2018, 04:21:55 AM
Bro your screenshot is one side.
Show both.
Show when you dropped wallet and when you got funds in your wallet.
Stop showing when I said I have sent btc.
Show other too.
You can also do the same, if you didn't quote you responses it would be best if you took all the screenshots and posted them here, then Zazarb will know all the information and he can help judge, asking the other party to do so won't make things go faster since he will decide to do it on his own time, so to expedite this take snapshots of your pm and upload them on imgur then post them here and call Zazarb to come a view them.Show both.
Show when you dropped wallet and when you got funds in your wallet.
Stop showing when I said I have sent btc.
Show other too.
February 22, 2018, 03:49:54 AM
Bro your screenshot is one side.
Show both.
Show when you dropped wallet and when you got funds in your wallet.
Stop showing when I said I have sent btc.
Show other too.
You can also do the same, if you didn't quote you responses it would be best if you took all the screenshots and posted them here, then Zazarb will know all the information and he can help judge, asking the other party to do so won't make things go faster since he will decide to do it on his own time, so to expedite this take snapshots of your pm and upload them on imgur then post them here and call Zazarb to come a view them. Show both.
Show when you dropped wallet and when you got funds in your wallet.
Stop showing when I said I have sent btc.
Show other too.
February 22, 2018, 03:46:14 AM
Bro your screenshot is one side.
Show both.
Show when you dropped wallet and when you got funds in your wallet.
Stop showing when I said I have sent btc.
Show other too.
Show both.
Show when you dropped wallet and when you got funds in your wallet.
Stop showing when I said I have sent btc.
Show other too.
February 22, 2018, 03:43:27 AM
Zazarb Gave his opinion based on btc unit.
We did not agree btc unit.
Our agreement was what you get in btc dollar is what you sent to me in skrill.
All our discussion has been in Bitcoin dollar nor bitcoin unit.
Zazarb also said he can't be the judge because he is not aware of our agreement.
Our agreement is 1:1.
What you get in bitcoin $$$ is what you will send me in skrill.
If you will refund, please refund me the dollar value of btc you got.
This is my decision and its our agreement.
We did not agree btc unit.
Our agreement was what you get in btc dollar is what you sent to me in skrill.
All our discussion has been in Bitcoin dollar nor bitcoin unit.
Zazarb also said he can't be the judge because he is not aware of our agreement.
Our agreement is 1:1.
What you get in bitcoin $$$ is what you will send me in skrill.
If you will refund, please refund me the dollar value of btc you got.
This is my decision and its our agreement.
February 22, 2018, 03:21:41 AM
he does not have skrill.
held my money for long.
wasted my time.
my customer who am sending skrill to send me btc in $$$ dollars and i am refunding in dollars and he must send me back full btc dollar amount i sent him.
when my btc landed his wallet he sent out $93 to someone and then sent the rest to his exchange wallet.
this guy messed me up. i have police case already from my customer because of this.
i do not need him to pay damages.
i just want full payment of what i paid him. let me go and fix my issues with my customers.
Well I checked COINMAN1's wallet that received btc and the $93 that were sent out after 1 hour wan't done by COINMAN1, if you check the wallet only has 2 transactions and if the $93 were sent out by COINMAN1 then there would be a total of 3 transactions on the wallet, COINMAN1 uses an exchanger and once funds clear in your wallet with enough confirmations depending on the exchanger the funds are moved to you account automatically.held my money for long.
wasted my time.
my customer who am sending skrill to send me btc in $$$ dollars and i am refunding in dollars and he must send me back full btc dollar amount i sent him.
when my btc landed his wallet he sent out $93 to someone and then sent the rest to his exchange wallet.
this guy messed me up. i have police case already from my customer because of this.
i do not need him to pay damages.
i just want full payment of what i paid him. let me go and fix my issues with my customers.
So from the look of things COINMAN1 didn't move any funds and now the issue that remains is that there should be proof provided of your communication prior to the BTC being sent, if COINMAN1 agreed to the btc being sent an hour before brazilcoins sent the btc and COINMAN1 wasn't able to complete the transaction and btc price dropped then COINMAN1 should be held liable for the entire amount in USD, but if brazilcoins sent BTC without talking to COINMAN1 that day then brazilcoins you should take responsibility for not waiting for OP to come online before sending him the funds.
Immediately he dropped wallet I sent btc.
And then I messaged him my skrill details.
And our agreement was amount of btc dollars he received is what I will get in skrill.
So if he gets $598.5 he should sent me same amount in skrill.
If he is refunding, he should send me exact btc amount in dollar I sent him.
Remember I never forced him refund. Check my posts above I was still willing to take skrill but he doesn't have the skrill and that's why he choose to refund.
He never talked to me that he has any amount of skrill he just refunded btc.
He should refund full btc $$ amount I sent which landed in his wallet.
February 22, 2018, 03:11:10 AM
Coinman1 you lie so much. You lie too much.
I wanted $1100 Skrill I asked how many times does it take you to send Skrill after getting btc you said once btc funds is confirmed.
I came back again asked for $370 you said once you get it and for any dollar ($) amount of skrill you get you give me same amount in skrill.
So our agreed rate was 1:1.
Whether btc goes $1mil or falls to $100 our rate is 1:1.
You dropped wallet and immediately I sent funds. I can post time you sent wallet and time u sent $598.54 funds. It was 3mins after you sent wallet.
I was to get $598.54 in skrill as per our 1:1 rate.
We never discussed btc unit rate.
You refunded me in btc unit that's fraud and scam.
Can I ask you a question:
You said you were offline. But
1. One hr after my btc came to your wallet you sent $93 from the funds to someone wallet.
2. You sent the remaining btc funds to your exchange wallet.
So if you were offline like you claim why did you use my btc ?
I need my balance of $62.1 btc funds.
You have till 6pm Pakistan time if not I will open scam accusation on you and make sure I close deal with you here.
After causing me pains you still do not want to refund me full.
First off all you ask me for 370$ deal at the time of trade you sent me msg and I replied and then some time you ask me for BTC addy and after sending you my BTC addy you reply me here that you just send your BTC now let's see the timings I wanted $1100 Skrill I asked how many times does it take you to send Skrill after getting btc you said once btc funds is confirmed.
I came back again asked for $370 you said once you get it and for any dollar ($) amount of skrill you get you give me same amount in skrill.
So our agreed rate was 1:1.
Whether btc goes $1mil or falls to $100 our rate is 1:1.
You dropped wallet and immediately I sent funds. I can post time you sent wallet and time u sent $598.54 funds. It was 3mins after you sent wallet.
I was to get $598.54 in skrill as per our 1:1 rate.
We never discussed btc unit rate.
You refunded me in btc unit that's fraud and scam.
Can I ask you a question:
You said you were offline. But
1. One hr after my btc came to your wallet you sent $93 from the funds to someone wallet.
2. You sent the remaining btc funds to your exchange wallet.
So if you were offline like you claim why did you use my btc ?
I need my balance of $62.1 btc funds.
You have till 6pm Pakistan time if not I will open scam accusation on you and make sure I close deal with you here.
After causing me pains you still do not want to refund me full.
i will need about $370 skrill.
can we transact that ?
And your next msg can we transact that ?
Give me your btc wallet pls
https://m.imgur.com/a/ZLNFeHave you seen the timing difference and for how much you want in deal
Now let's talk about your question
I didn't use your BTC u send me BTC into my localbitcoin wallet I don't know how they work but if you see my transaction page history you will see that there is no transaction on my history I don't know why it showing you 93$ etc
I am again ready to pay you as zazrab decision
But you keep forcing me I don't know why
We both decided to talk to zazrab and let him decide but after his decision that I should pay him what he send to me almost .052...... + Sending fesses but you refuse to accept his decision
February 22, 2018, 02:53:39 AM
he does not have skrill.
held my money for long.
wasted my time.
my customer who am sending skrill to send me btc in $$$ dollars and i am refunding in dollars and he must send me back full btc dollar amount i sent him.
when my btc landed his wallet he sent out $93 to someone and then sent the rest to his exchange wallet.
this guy messed me up. i have police case already from my customer because of this.
i do not need him to pay damages.
i just want full payment of what i paid him. let me go and fix my issues with my customers.
Well I checked COINMAN1's wallet that received btc and the $93 that were sent out after 1 hour wan't done by COINMAN1, if you check the wallet only has 2 transactions and if the $93 were sent out by COINMAN1 then there would be a total of 3 transactions on the wallet, COINMAN1 uses an exchanger and once funds clear in your wallet with enough confirmations depending on the exchanger the funds are moved to you account automatically.held my money for long.
wasted my time.
my customer who am sending skrill to send me btc in $$$ dollars and i am refunding in dollars and he must send me back full btc dollar amount i sent him.
when my btc landed his wallet he sent out $93 to someone and then sent the rest to his exchange wallet.
this guy messed me up. i have police case already from my customer because of this.
i do not need him to pay damages.
i just want full payment of what i paid him. let me go and fix my issues with my customers.
So from the look of things COINMAN1 didn't move any funds and now the issue that remains is that there should be proof provided of your communication prior to the BTC being sent, if COINMAN1 agreed to the btc being sent an hour before brazilcoins sent the btc and COINMAN1 wasn't able to complete the transaction and btc price dropped then COINMAN1 should be held liable for the entire amount in USD, but if brazilcoins sent BTC without talking to COINMAN1 that day then brazilcoins you should take responsibility for not waiting for OP to come online before sending him the funds.
Immediately he dropped wallet I sent btc.
And then I messaged him my skrill details.
And our agreement was amount of btc dollars he received is what I will get in skrill.
So if he gets $598.5 he should sent me same amount in skrill.
If he is refunding, he should send me exact btc amount in dollar I sent him.
Remember I never forced him refund. Check my posts above I was still willing to take skrill but he doesn't have the skrill and that's why he choose to refund.
He never talked to me that he has any amount of skrill he just refunded btc.
He should refund full btc $$ amount I sent which landed in his wallet.
February 22, 2018, 02:45:54 AM
Coinman1 you lie so much. You lie too much.
I wanted $1100 Skrill I asked how many times does it take you to send Skrill after getting btc you said once btc funds is confirmed.
I came back again asked for $370 you said once you get it and for any dollar ($) amount of skrill you get you give me same amount in skrill.
So our agreed rate was 1:1.
Whether btc goes $1mil or falls to $100 our rate is 1:1.
You dropped wallet and immediately I sent funds. I can post time you sent wallet and time u sent $598.54 funds. It was 3mins after you sent wallet.
I was to get $598.54 in skrill as per our 1:1 rate.
We never discussed btc unit rate.
You refunded me in btc unit that's fraud and scam.
Can I ask you a question:
You said you were offline. But
1. One hr after my btc came to your wallet you sent $93 from the funds to someone wallet.
2. You sent the remaining btc funds to your exchange wallet.
So if you were offline like you claim why did you use my btc ?
I need my balance of $62.1 btc funds.
You have till 6pm Pakistan time if not I will open scam accusation on you and make sure I close deal with you here.
After causing me pains you still do not want to refund me full.
I wanted $1100 Skrill I asked how many times does it take you to send Skrill after getting btc you said once btc funds is confirmed.
I came back again asked for $370 you said once you get it and for any dollar ($) amount of skrill you get you give me same amount in skrill.
So our agreed rate was 1:1.
Whether btc goes $1mil or falls to $100 our rate is 1:1.
You dropped wallet and immediately I sent funds. I can post time you sent wallet and time u sent $598.54 funds. It was 3mins after you sent wallet.
I was to get $598.54 in skrill as per our 1:1 rate.
We never discussed btc unit rate.
You refunded me in btc unit that's fraud and scam.
Can I ask you a question:
You said you were offline. But
1. One hr after my btc came to your wallet you sent $93 from the funds to someone wallet.
2. You sent the remaining btc funds to your exchange wallet.
So if you were offline like you claim why did you use my btc ?
I need my balance of $62.1 btc funds.
You have till 6pm Pakistan time if not I will open scam accusation on you and make sure I close deal with you here.
After causing me pains you still do not want to refund me full.
February 22, 2018, 02:42:32 AM
he does not have skrill.
held my money for long.
wasted my time.
my customer who am sending skrill to send me btc in $$$ dollars and i am refunding in dollars and he must send me back full btc dollar amount i sent him.
when my btc landed his wallet he sent out $93 to someone and then sent the rest to his exchange wallet.
this guy messed me up. i have police case already from my customer because of this.
i do not need him to pay damages.
i just want full payment of what i paid him. let me go and fix my issues with my customers.
Well I checked COINMAN1's wallet that received btc and the $93 that were sent out after 1 hour wan't done by COINMAN1, if you check the wallet only has 2 transactions and if the $93 were sent out by COINMAN1 then there would be a total of 3 transactions on the wallet, COINMAN1 uses an exchanger and once funds clear in your wallet with enough confirmations depending on the exchanger the funds are moved to you account automatically.held my money for long.
wasted my time.
my customer who am sending skrill to send me btc in $$$ dollars and i am refunding in dollars and he must send me back full btc dollar amount i sent him.
when my btc landed his wallet he sent out $93 to someone and then sent the rest to his exchange wallet.
this guy messed me up. i have police case already from my customer because of this.
i do not need him to pay damages.
i just want full payment of what i paid him. let me go and fix my issues with my customers.
So from the look of things COINMAN1 didn't move any funds and now the issue that remains is that there should be proof provided of your communication prior to the BTC being sent, if COINMAN1 agreed to the btc being sent an hour before brazilcoins sent the btc and COINMAN1 wasn't able to complete the transaction and btc price dropped then COINMAN1 should be held liable for the entire amount in USD, but if brazilcoins sent BTC without talking to COINMAN1 that day then brazilcoins you should take responsibility for not waiting for OP to come online before sending him the funds.
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