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August 27, 2018, 05:39:36 PM
ok so op is saying that he bought the site on July 18th and asked me to do the stats for the picks since then
there are 96 tips from that date which ended up being +11.86 units yielding 12.354% ROI
so if that's really the case then the stats are impressing , it's still a small sample though and personally will wait till the sample has like 500 picks
but yeah from that date till today the site is doing good
there are 96 tips from that date which ended up being +11.86 units yielding 12.354% ROI
so if that's really the case then the stats are impressing , it's still a small sample though and personally will wait till the sample has like 500 picks
but yeah from that date till today the site is doing good
August 27, 2018, 04:30:13 PM
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August 26, 2018, 08:02:24 PM
ok so I got access to the site now and checked the last predictions , it looks like you made 587 picks since the start of this year till yesterday
did the math about profit and it's +10.86 units which means ROI is 1.85% , not the worst and not the best
would love to see your past picks available for all people , it's the right of people to see the stats before joining a tipping service and this way you be completely honest with your subscribers
did the math about profit and it's +10.86 units which means ROI is 1.85% , not the worst and not the best
would love to see your past picks available for all people , it's the right of people to see the stats before joining a tipping service and this way you be completely honest with your subscribers
August 26, 2018, 01:24:01 PM
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August 25, 2018, 10:10:23 PM
Pm me with your username on the website, we track our picks if you click on "past predictions on the website.
yes I know but do you make it clear how much the site is up or what is the ROI or users have to do the job manually ?
I forgot my past login so I created a new account I will pm you now with the username
August 25, 2018, 05:45:35 PM
I've used this site on and off over the last year. It's legit and currently on a hot streak, so join up to take part 
Wondering whether to join or not. Seeing my friend I'm no longer skeptical. I'm signing up now. Very great and helpful thank you very much. August 25, 2018, 04:20:46 PM
well to be honest I don't care about the scenario here even if you really bought the service , it's just weird to vouch for something in the past then come here and announce it as you bought it
guess the best thing to discuss is if you are profitable or not , as I stated before I subscribed for a month and did the math for all of your previous bets on the site which yielded a negative and after I commented about that Hhampuz didn't respond and he hasn't answered my concerns
after that your thread turned to dead
is there any proof that you are really profitable ?? why you don't record your past picks in a third party site
here is what profitable and professional tipsters do https://bettin.gs/Bookieinsiders
you care about customers right ?? well I was a customer so how you can convince me that you are profitable
also why you don't mention the source of the odds next to your bets , cause i stated before when I was a subscriber I couldn't find your quoted odds
guess the best thing to discuss is if you are profitable or not , as I stated before I subscribed for a month and did the math for all of your previous bets on the site which yielded a negative and after I commented about that Hhampuz didn't respond and he hasn't answered my concerns
after that your thread turned to dead
is there any proof that you are really profitable ?? why you don't record your past picks in a third party site
here is what profitable and professional tipsters do https://bettin.gs/Bookieinsiders
you care about customers right ?? well I was a customer so how you can convince me that you are profitable
also why you don't mention the source of the odds next to your bets , cause i stated before when I was a subscriber I couldn't find your quoted odds
Do you realise that theres a new owner of this website? I sent you a message I offered you a 1 month subscription for free to try out the website, if you are in minus I will personally send your money back.
The proof that I am profitable can be found on our FB page it can be found on our website once you have a subscription.
We dont record our past picks on a third party website because that means more work to do and right now I have over 600 customers and no one is complaining about where I store the picks.
ok I will do the free one month and will track the picks that I can play in my thread , will start betting 20 euros a pick
please let me know and pm me my login details
you still need to do tracking for your picks , it's not time consuming since it doesn't take over 15 mins a day and it will show your customers exactly how you are doing
August 25, 2018, 09:51:35 AM
well to be honest I don't care about the scenario here even if you really bought the service , it's just weird to vouch for something in the past then come here and announce it as you bought it
guess the best thing to discuss is if you are profitable or not , as I stated before I subscribed for a month and did the math for all of your previous bets on the site which yielded a negative and after I commented about that Hhampuz didn't respond and he hasn't answered my concerns
after that your thread turned to dead
is there any proof that you are really profitable ?? why you don't record your past picks in a third party site
here is what profitable and professional tipsters do https://bettin.gs/Bookieinsiders
you care about customers right ?? well I was a customer so how you can convince me that you are profitable
also why you don't mention the source of the odds next to your bets , cause i stated before when I was a subscriber I couldn't find your quoted odds
guess the best thing to discuss is if you are profitable or not , as I stated before I subscribed for a month and did the math for all of your previous bets on the site which yielded a negative and after I commented about that Hhampuz didn't respond and he hasn't answered my concerns
after that your thread turned to dead
is there any proof that you are really profitable ?? why you don't record your past picks in a third party site
here is what profitable and professional tipsters do https://bettin.gs/Bookieinsiders
you care about customers right ?? well I was a customer so how you can convince me that you are profitable
also why you don't mention the source of the odds next to your bets , cause i stated before when I was a subscriber I couldn't find your quoted odds
Do you realise that theres a new owner of this website? I sent you a message I offered you a 1 month subscription for free to try out the website, if you are in minus I will personally send your money back.
The proof that I am profitable can be found on our FB page it can be found on our website once you have a subscription.
We dont record our past picks on a third party website because that means more work to do and right now I have over 600 customers and no one is complaining about where I store the picks.
August 25, 2018, 07:11:28 AM
send you a support ticket on your platform. Let me know when read and ready to discuss.
Regards
Regards
August 24, 2018, 10:19:48 PM
well to be honest I don't care about the scenario here even if you really bought the service , it's just weird to vouch for something in the past then come here and announce it as you bought it
guess the best thing to discuss is if you are profitable or not , as I stated before I subscribed for a month and did the math for all of your previous bets on the site which yielded a negative and after I commented about that Hhampuz didn't respond and he hasn't answered my concerns
after that your thread turned to dead
is there any proof that you are really profitable ?? why you don't record your past picks in a third party site
here is what profitable and professional tipsters do https://bettin.gs/Bookieinsiders
you care about customers right ?? well I was a customer so how you can convince me that you are profitable
also why you don't mention the source of the odds next to your bets , cause i stated before when I was a subscriber I couldn't find your quoted odds
guess the best thing to discuss is if you are profitable or not , as I stated before I subscribed for a month and did the math for all of your previous bets on the site which yielded a negative and after I commented about that Hhampuz didn't respond and he hasn't answered my concerns
after that your thread turned to dead
is there any proof that you are really profitable ?? why you don't record your past picks in a third party site
here is what profitable and professional tipsters do https://bettin.gs/Bookieinsiders
you care about customers right ?? well I was a customer so how you can convince me that you are profitable
also why you don't mention the source of the odds next to your bets , cause i stated before when I was a subscriber I couldn't find your quoted odds
August 24, 2018, 02:50:16 PM
This is just some kind of theory from your side, can you please stop salestrashing? I was first a customer and became a tipster there in return I got a subscription for free. I bought this service right after world cup ended.
I have no idea why you are doing this to me without any kind of evidence.
I have no idea why you are doing this to me without any kind of evidence.
Again:
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• Discouraging a sale without proper reason;
• Pointing to the thread of competitors;
• Pointing to the thread of competitors;
100% confirmed timeline:
You vouched for the service on December 8th, and purchased it on December 7th Evidence: https://archive.is/1Q5Uu#selection-4067.0-4067.93
You posted tips on December 7th and 8th. Evidence: https://archive.is/1Q5Uu#selection-4067.0-4067.93 (see image) and https://archive.is/t0Xdd#selection-515.0-515.25
You were a customer before becoming a tipster. While you were a tipster, you got a free subscription. Evidence: https://archive.is/OmoZl#selection-7597.84-7597.225
Roberto was a tipster on November 22nd. Evidence: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5742684&pid=56253169#pid56253169
Direct image link to tips.
This is not a theory, this is what actually happened.
If anything, you are writing false stories about me on my trust wall
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Pschyopathic user, makes a story about me that isnt even true. Have a conversation before attacking someone next time.
You are the stupidest idiot I have ever seen in my life.
Check Francesco totti on HF and you can clearly see that his first name on HF was RobertoBenigni until he choosed to change it to Francesco Totti.
The reason I picked the name Roberto when I made this thread is because I am taking over his username on the website as an administrator.
Seriously dude you are making fun of yourself you think you are some kind of a FBI agent.
One more thing, nor me or the co owners real name is RobertoBenigni RobertoBenigni is a famous italian actor.
August 24, 2018, 02:42:19 PM
Edit: JamesDunflermline claimed to have bought the service from the original owner. Whether you believe that is up to you, but I've given him reasonable doubt and removed my negative trust.
Below is the original post:
Again:
100% confirmed timeline:
You vouched for the service on December 8th, and purchased it on December 7th Evidence: https://archive.is/1Q5Uu#selection-4067.0-4067.93
You posted tips on December 7th and 8th. Evidence: https://archive.is/1Q5Uu#selection-4067.0-4067.93 (see image) and https://archive.is/t0Xdd#selection-515.0-515.25
You were a customer before becoming a tipster. While you were a tipster, you got a free subscription. Evidence: https://archive.is/OmoZl#selection-7597.84-7597.225
Roberto was a tipster on November 22nd. Evidence: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5742684&pid=56253169#pid56253169
Direct image link to tips.
This is not a theory, this is what actually happened.
If anything, you are writing false stories about me on my trust wall
Below is the original post:
This is just some kind of theory from your side, can you please stop salestrashing? I was first a customer and became a tipster there in return I got a subscription for free. I bought this service right after world cup ended.
I have no idea why you are doing this to me without any kind of evidence.
I have no idea why you are doing this to me without any kind of evidence.
Again:
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• Discouraging a sale without proper reason;
• Pointing to the thread of competitors;
• Pointing to the thread of competitors;
100% confirmed timeline:
You vouched for the service on December 8th, and purchased it on December 7th Evidence: https://archive.is/1Q5Uu#selection-4067.0-4067.93
You posted tips on December 7th and 8th. Evidence: https://archive.is/1Q5Uu#selection-4067.0-4067.93 (see image) and https://archive.is/t0Xdd#selection-515.0-515.25
You were a customer before becoming a tipster. While you were a tipster, you got a free subscription. Evidence: https://archive.is/OmoZl#selection-7597.84-7597.225
Roberto was a tipster on November 22nd. Evidence: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5742684&pid=56253169#pid56253169
Direct image link to tips.
This is not a theory, this is what actually happened.
If anything, you are writing false stories about me on my trust wall
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Pschyopathic user, makes a story about me that isnt even true. Have a conversation before attacking someone next time.
August 24, 2018, 02:19:48 PM
Edit: JamesDunflermline claimed to have bought the service from the original owner. Whether you believe that is up to you, but I've given him reasonable doubt and removed my negative trust.
Below is the original post:
Below is the original post:
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From PMs: (with an addition)
You were tipping at that point. I find it hard to believe that the owner (assuming you bought the service) would charge you to view the picks of yourself and maybe a few others. If anything, you would know those already, and might have discussed your planned tips with the other tipsters. There's no way you only bought the membership a day before you posted either, while being an active tipster.
This is the timeline you seem to be giving:
Pre-December 2017: RobertoBenigni (who the OP claims to be) is a tipster on SportsPrediction with no access to your colleague's picks. I know this for certain, as I viewed the past history.
December 7 2017: You are no longer a tipster. You purchase the service as a customer on the same day you are removed from being a tipster
December 8 2017: You are a tipster again
After December 2017: You purchase the entire service from the owner
I know for certain RobertoBenigni had picks on December 6th and/or 5th; I was given a vouch and took a look at prior picks.
So just because I vouched for a thread 1 year ago does it mean that I was the owner at that point?
Like is it totally impossible that I bought the service from the real owner?
Like is it totally impossible that I bought the service from the real owner?
You were tipping at that point. I find it hard to believe that the owner (assuming you bought the service) would charge you to view the picks of yourself and maybe a few others. If anything, you would know those already, and might have discussed your planned tips with the other tipsters. There's no way you only bought the membership a day before you posted either, while being an active tipster.
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Bought membership yesterday and i already made my money back.. Highly recommend this service.
This is the timeline you seem to be giving:
Pre-December 2017: RobertoBenigni (who the OP claims to be) is a tipster on SportsPrediction with no access to your colleague's picks. I know this for certain, as I viewed the past history.
December 7 2017: You are no longer a tipster. You purchase the service as a customer on the same day you are removed from being a tipster
December 8 2017: You are a tipster again
After December 2017: You purchase the entire service from the owner
I know for certain RobertoBenigni had picks on December 6th and/or 5th; I was given a vouch and took a look at prior picks.
August 24, 2018, 02:07:09 PM
Edit: JamesDunflermline claimed to have bought the service from the original owner. Whether you believe that is up to you, but I've given him reasonable doubt and removed my negative trust.
Below is the original post:
Must I remind you:
I'd argue that a fake vouch and poor past performance is a proper reason to discourage a sale. I have not linked to a competitor either. Based off of SyGambler's stats from December, you would have had to gone 188 wins + 0 losses (or some variation of that) on Discord to reach 70% win rate. What are your discord stats, and is it not worrying that you were unable to turn a profit over 240 matches? Losing 3.41 units in 240 matches is a -1.4% yield. I don't know where you get your odds from, but Pinnacle's margin is around 2.1%. You were barely beating that.
Pretty impressive last 50 though. What sportsbooks are you using, and is it reasonable for a Bitcoin customer to match the odds you get?
Below is the original post:
All the picks was not posted on the website itself, the website started first in discord where most of our picks were posted, when we became bigger we made our website and started to post bets there. The 70% is counted with the bets we posted on discord.
Why are you guys salestrashing? Hampuz is one of my customers and has been a custommer many months.
I am willing to provide proof that we have a great win ratio but please stop salestrashing.
Why are you guys salestrashing? Hampuz is one of my customers and has been a custommer many months.
I am willing to provide proof that we have a great win ratio but please stop salestrashing.
Must I remind you:
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• Discouraging a sale without proper reason;
• Pointing to the thread of competitors;
• Pointing to the thread of competitors;
I'd argue that a fake vouch and poor past performance is a proper reason to discourage a sale. I have not linked to a competitor either. Based off of SyGambler's stats from December, you would have had to gone 188 wins + 0 losses (or some variation of that) on Discord to reach 70% win rate. What are your discord stats, and is it not worrying that you were unable to turn a profit over 240 matches? Losing 3.41 units in 240 matches is a -1.4% yield. I don't know where you get your odds from, but Pinnacle's margin is around 2.1%. You were barely beating that.
Pretty impressive last 50 though. What sportsbooks are you using, and is it reasonable for a Bitcoin customer to match the odds you get?
August 24, 2018, 01:51:12 PM
All the picks was not posted on the website itself, the website started first in discord where most of our picks were posted, when we became bigger we made our website and started to post bets there. The 70% is counted with the bets we posted on discord.
Why are you guys salestrashing? Hampuz is one of my customers and has been a custommer many months.
EDIT here is some proof of our latest bets.
Why are you guys salestrashing? Hampuz is one of my customers and has been a custommer many months.
EDIT here is some proof of our latest bets.
August 24, 2018, 01:06:33 PM
The more interesting thing is that the poster of this thread, JamesDunflermline, posted a vouch for the service in December. In his exact words:
oh wow hehe , haven't noticed that this guy vouched in that thread nice catch
I'm not sure why Hhampuz is really vouching for them and what he is getting in return , but in the past when he made a thread for them I told him that all the data he posted are fake and that the site isn't profitable even with a fake win rate that was a little bit over 55% ( Hhampuz was saying in op that they have over 70% win rate )
after that he didn't make any comment regarding my questions , so I ended up wasting one month subscription money on nothing in return
August 24, 2018, 12:38:07 PM
This is really interesting. The service launched on December 7, 2017 on BitcoinTalk and had a thread posted by Hhampuz (now in Archival). Here's an archive of the thread. I asked for a vouch copy, and this was the response:
Thus, JamesDunflermline clearly left a fake vouch, pretending to purchase his own product.
I did take a vouch copy in December, but I recall I was really busy and missed most of the picks, so I stopped following. This was the quote from SyGambler at the time:
Perhaps they are better now at tipping now, or went on a bad run. Perhaps, it is still the same. (70% win rate then, still 70% win rate. and no bankroll management)
Take this however you want to see it, but personally, I cannot trust a service that needs to self-vouch instead of using solid statistics to get sales. Also, before you claim sales trashing, read the HackForums rules: (not that this is HackForums)
I am Roberto 24 years old I work as a sports trader for a big famous betting company
Thus, JamesDunflermline clearly left a fake vouch, pretending to purchase his own product.
I did take a vouch copy in December, but I recall I was really busy and missed most of the picks, so I stopped following. This was the quote from SyGambler at the time:
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hmmm well I'm really disappointed , I purchased the subscription and as I can see from the past 240 matches the site isn't doing good and it's negative actually
couldn't have more info about the stats cause they posted the odds for their last 240 matches only
in the last 240 matches the site lost 3.41 units , it's not terrible stats but still it's negative stats and can't make the followers profits
and thats actually if you can bet on the odds that they post , they have 6 picks for today so I searched for the matches and couldn't find the same odds they posted in bitcoin bookies
the odds in bitcoin bookies ( nitrogen and fairlay included in some matches ) are lower at least 4% from their odds ( at least for today Roll Eyes )
not sure if I'm missing something , but with this stats I'm sure no one is going to make money except the site Smiley
EDIT also about the over 70% win rate mentioned in the OP , that's also not true according to the data that the site posted
there are 388 past results available in the site now 215 win 5 push 168 loss , how this over 70% win rate ??
op is there something I'm missing here ?? the info you provided are false
couldn't have more info about the stats cause they posted the odds for their last 240 matches only
in the last 240 matches the site lost 3.41 units , it's not terrible stats but still it's negative stats and can't make the followers profits
and thats actually if you can bet on the odds that they post , they have 6 picks for today so I searched for the matches and couldn't find the same odds they posted in bitcoin bookies
the odds in bitcoin bookies ( nitrogen and fairlay included in some matches ) are lower at least 4% from their odds ( at least for today Roll Eyes )
not sure if I'm missing something , but with this stats I'm sure no one is going to make money except the site Smiley
EDIT also about the over 70% win rate mentioned in the OP , that's also not true according to the data that the site posted
there are 388 past results available in the site now 215 win 5 push 168 loss , how this over 70% win rate ??
op is there something I'm missing here ?? the info you provided are false
Perhaps they are better now at tipping now, or went on a bad run. Perhaps, it is still the same. (70% win rate then, still 70% win rate. and no bankroll management)
Take this however you want to see it, but personally, I cannot trust a service that needs to self-vouch instead of using solid statistics to get sales. Also, before you claim sales trashing, read the HackForums rules: (not that this is HackForums)
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• Discouraging a sale without proper reason;
• Pointing to the thread of competitors;
• Pointing to the thread of competitors;
August 24, 2018, 11:55:36 AM
personally I don't recommend this site , I joined in the past and they were in negative also the odds aren't that easy to get
20$ a week for a tipster with negative results is so freaking high
But the results can't always be negative given their 70% chances of accurate prediction. Assuming you make a bet of about $100 and make $200 on it, giving away $20 for the entire week seems just fine. 20$ a week for a tipster with negative results is so freaking high
I joined then last December cause Hhampuz recommended them in the past , I did the calculations and the win rate was wrong also the site was on negative after I did the calculation
Darkstar_ took a vouch copy but not sure if he remembers how the site was
20$ a week is high if you compare it with what I actually pay for other tipsters , and the majority of the tipsters I follow are profitable with proven positive record
Hello, why are you sale trashing? I have no idea who you are and I am sure that you never purchased aything off me?
Here is some of our last bets all taken from the website.
I have no interest in sale trashing , I would be more than happy to know a profitable tipster since I do follow tipsters and here is my thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17941510
here is my feedback about you when I joined in last Decemeber , none of what you advertised was true
The win rate was fake and you being profitable was fake , I have no idea how the site did after Decemeber but I'm 100% sure that on Decemeber you were lying about your win rate and about being profitable
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26994159
August 24, 2018, 08:10:31 AM
I've used this site on and off over the last year. It's legit and currently on a hot streak, so join up to take part
Do you mind giving us more insights into the same? Maybe the bets they predicted and you won a huge margin on it? Anything else that might be publicly verifiable to see them in action?personally I don't recommend this site , I joined in the past and they were in negative also the odds aren't that easy to get
20$ a week for a tipster with negative results is so freaking high
But the results can't always be negative given their 70% chances of accurate prediction. Assuming you make a bet of about $100 and make $200 on it, giving away $20 for the entire week seems just fine. 20$ a week for a tipster with negative results is so freaking high
Hello, why are you sale trashing? I have no idea who you are and I am sure that you never purchased aything off me?
Here is some of our last bets all taken from the website.
