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legendary
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Exactly that was my point. Immagine if he change his mind and start promoting XC because he recognizes the superior tek behind it. However if he is honest I don't really see why he should not do it. The fact is is he Honest?

The question is: Can you handle Honesty?

Honestly the solution of trusted parties to conduct transactions would not be considered as "superior tech" but rather as a joke by those who are "tech experts". It goes against what Satoshi did when he invented trustless transactions.

If Dan has found a solution to make it trustless, that's a win right there. Otherwise you'd better keep silent until this is fixed. Trust me when I say you don't want people ripping you apart in a convention for presenting problematic tech as superior.

Every anon currency has holes at the moment.

DRK is currently vulnerable to the pattern matching that Chaeplin used on earlier versions of XC. XC has upgraded to multipath technology in version 1.5 and has now resisted cracking attempts.

MRO suffers from blockchain bloating.

The current version of XC is not 100% trustless yet but that is coming in version 2.0. If that also incorporates the trust learning algorithm that was previously mentioned that would make XC > than DRK in another aspect. To remind you, DRK transactions though "trustless" due to multisig are still vulnerable to bad nodes which will block the transaction. XC's trust learning algorithm will learn the bad nodes and lead to a stronger, more efficient network.

Don't forget as well that XC nodes can be run in ANY wallet. You don't need to setup a server to run an XC node like you do with DRK. Just open your wallet and away you go.

With encrypted messages on the way and other "blockchain 2.0" coming, XC stands to be the ultimate Privacy Platform and I know a lot of people will welcome the opportunity to "get in early" before more people learn about it.  Wink
legendary
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Exactly that was my point. Immagine if he change his mind and start promoting XC because he recognizes the superior tek behind it. However if he is honest I don't really see why he should not do it. The fact is is he Honest?

The question is: Can you handle Honesty?

Honestly the solution of trusted parties to conduct transactions would not be considered as "superior tech" but rather as a joke by those who are "tech experts". It goes against what Satoshi did when he invented trustless transactions.

If Dan has found a solution to make it trustless, that's a win right there. Otherwise you'd better keep silent until this is fixed. Trust me when I say you don't want people ripping you apart in a convention for presenting problematic tech as superior.

Guess that's why DRK don't dare to have a booth there with all the forking issue and non 100% anon tech....

There is no 100% anon tech. At least not one that I am aware of. Zerocoin could do it but it is breakable by Quantum Computers + it has a trusted accumulator.

Back in March we had a discussion on the DRK thread to do some kind of "fund Snowden" campaign with DRK. This is what I said:

Yep... and that's why you can't have a "fund-Snowden"campaign, because if you don't have an NSA-proof anonymous solution, Snowden will laugh and decline your offer.

It's the necessary reality check.

If you don't have an NSA-proof coin => you are not 100% anonymous.

To raise the bar even further: If you don't have a coin that can resist NSA analysis that will come online in the next 5-20 years => you are not 100% anonymous. This, btw, would require hardening against future pattern-recognition software with suprahuman intelligence.

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I assume you don't like Bitshares either?

I rarely buy coins that the vast majority of people can't relate to - because, fundamentally, at this stage of adoption, cryptocurrencies are a pyramid scheme where you expect the next buyer to pump you. So if the majority of buyers don't even understand your features, the pump is doomed. It's a problem of mass-marketing to a "base" that can't evaluate the features and hence stay away from the coins.

I've explained this phenomenon here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7114149
and here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7116563
sr. member
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I mined at this https://xc.suprnova.cc/ pool and I wasn't paying attention to it for awhile, only to find that the pool has closed, and I never got any email notification from it, rather than a silly message in the homepage to withdraw all balances, which happened to have come to my notice after the date for the closure of the pool. From now on I am going to avoid coins with dodgy pools, specially coins that lists pools as officials, but the listed pools won't allow people to sign up saying their quotas are full.
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 I never got any email notification from it

that would be a first... Smiley



mining is done for weeks now...
always know what coin you mine.
follow the topic on bitcointalk (or official forum), then you know when mining is over.

sr. member
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Exactly that was my point. Immagine if he change his mind and start promoting XC because he recognizes the superior tek behind it. However if he is honest I don't really see why he should not do it. The fact is is he Honest?

The question is: Can you handle Honesty?

Honestly the solution of trusted parties to conduct transactions would not be considered as "superior tech" but rather as a joke by those who are "tech experts". It goes against what Satoshi did when he invented trustless transactions.

If Dan has found a solution to make it trustless, that's a win right there. Otherwise you'd better keep silent until this is fixed. Trust me when I say you don't want people ripping you apart in a convention for presenting problematic tech as superior.

Guess that's why DRK don't dare to have a booth there with all the forking issue and non 100% anon tech....
legendary
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Exactly that was my point. Immagine if he change his mind and start promoting XC because he recognizes the superior tek behind it. However if he is honest I don't really see why he should not do it. The fact is is he Honest?

The question is: Can you handle Honesty?

Honestly the solution of trusted parties to conduct transactions would not be considered as "superior tech" but rather as a joke by those who are "tech experts". It goes against what Satoshi did when he invented trustless transactions.

If Dan has found a solution to make it trustless, that's a win right there. Otherwise you'd better keep silent until this is fixed. Trust me when I say you don't want people ripping you apart in a convention for presenting problematic tech as superior.
legendary
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Some members of the XC Team[myself included] will be at the "Bitcoin in the Beltway: 2014" conference this weekend in Washington, DC.

http://www.bitcoinbeltway.com/


We will have a booth as well.


ATCSECURE


Best thing so far I have heard on this forum -to have a physical booth at such an event is SERIOUS.  The fact that dev is going on his time to promote   XC platform is fucking amazing!

Sweet!

Very few alt coins do things like this, I'm greatly encouraged with the amount of team effort which is going into this coin.

It reminds me of the activity I saw in NXT's early days.
sr. member
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Some members of the XC Team[myself included] will be at the "Bitcoin in the Beltway: 2014" conference this weekend in Washington, DC.

http://www.bitcoinbeltway.com/


We will have a booth as well.


ATCSECURE


Best thing so far I have heard on this forum -to have a physical booth at such an event is SERIOUS.  The fact that dev is going on his time to promote   XC platform is fucking amazing!
sr. member
Activity: 322
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I mined at this https://xc.suprnova.cc/ pool and I wasn't paying attention to it for awhile, only to find that the pool has closed, and I never got any email notification from it, rather than a silly message in the homepage to withdraw all balances, which happened to have come to my notice after the date for the closure of the pool. From now on I am going to avoid coins with dodgy pools, specially coins that lists pools as officials, but the listed pools won't allow people to sign up saying their quotas are full.

It's never a good idea to leave coins in a pool... especially one that has staking.    Did you actually have coins at the pool?? 

You should try to pm ocminer and see if you can still get it somehow...
newbie
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I mined at this https://xc.suprnova.cc/ pool and I wasn't paying attention to it for awhile, only to find that the pool has closed, and I never got any email notification from it, rather than a silly message in the homepage to withdraw all balances, which happened to have come to my notice after the date for the closure of the pool. From now on I am going to avoid coins with dodgy pools, specially coins that lists pools as officials, but the listed pools won't allow people to sign up saying their quotas are full.
legendary
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sorry. i don't think we should talk a person here.

Technology and development matter most.
legendary
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So what kind of event will this be? Promoting BTC to major busineses? AVG Joe is not going to pay 300$ to get info about BTC.

I can see that there is as well Cristov Atlas would be nice if Dan could introduce him in the XC Platform so that he may start to speak more about it in his program.

I see ther is Mike Maloney as well..Immagine if we could buy gold and silver from maloney website with XC..

are your serious?

does DAN need to introduce XC to a DRK fanboy?

if we really see a big picture. we should know DAN is much more aware of what he is going to do.



Why not?  Attending conferences and putting faces on XC makes XC very real. More real than just about every alt coin out there.  You would be surprised how a face to face can change opinions.  look at Ethereum and they don't even have a product yet.

This is actually announcement worthy IMO.

+1

but the only thing is that i don't like that boy.

maybe i take it so personally.


anyway good  news, and XC is my long-term investment.
hero member
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So what kind of event will this be? Promoting BTC to major busineses? AVG Joe is not going to pay 300$ to get info about BTC.

I can see that there is as well Cristov Atlas would be nice if Dan could introduce him in the XC Platform so that he may start to speak more about it in his program.

I see ther is Mike Maloney as well..Immagine if we could buy gold and silver from maloney website with XC..

are your serious?

does DAN need to introduce XC to a DRK fanboy?

if we really see a big picture. we should know DAN is much more aware of what he is going to do.



Why not?  Attending conferences and putting faces on XC makes XC very real. More real than just about every alt coin out there.  You would be surprised how a face to face can change opinions.  look at Ethereum and they don't even have a product yet.

This is actually announcement worthy IMO.

Exactly that was my point. Immagine if he change his mind and start promoting XC because he recognizes the superior tek behind it. However if he is honest I don't really see why he should not do it. The fact is is he Honest?
hero member
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So what kind of event will this be? Promoting BTC to major busineses? AVG Joe is not going to pay 300$ to get info about BTC.

I can see that there is as well Cristov Atlas would be nice if Dan could introduce him in the XC Platform so that he may start to speak more about it in his program.

I see ther is Mike Maloney as well..Immagine if we could buy gold and silver from maloney website with XC..

are your serious?

does DAN need to introduce XC to a DRK fanboy?

if we really see a big picture. we should know DAN is much more aware of what he is going to do.



Why not?  Attending conferences and putting faces on XC makes XC very real. More real than just about every alt coin out there.  You would be surprised how a face to face can change opinions.  look at Ethereum and they don't even have a product yet.

This is actually announcement worthy IMO.
sr. member
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Well i live right in the Suburbs of DC so i will be in attendance. I will try ot bring some prospective clients/investors to see your both!!! THIS IS HUGE NEWS.. great job ATC... pm me if you need any help setting up or anythign else!! Again im so excited for this!!!
sr. member
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Jeff Berwick also one to find he has no clue about XC and he is into anonymous stuff ,he knows only bitcoin.
legendary
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So what kind of event will this be? Promoting BTC to major busineses? AVG Joe is not going to pay 300$ to get info about BTC.

I can see that there is as well Cristov Atlas would be nice if Dan could introduce him in the XC Platform so that he may start to speak more about it in his program.

I see ther is Mike Maloney as well..Immagine if we could buy gold and silver from maloney website with XC..

are your serious?

does DAN need to introduce XC to a DRK fanboy?

if we really see a big picture. we should know DAN is much more aware of what he is going to do.

hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500

Some members of the XC Team[myself included] will be at the "Bitcoin in the Beltway: 2014" conference this weekend in Washington, DC.

http://www.bitcoinbeltway.com/


We will have a booth as well.


ATCSECURE


Oef, this looks so much more interesting then that btc conference I whent to in The netherlands. Have fun guys!

Yes but why 300$ for the ticket if I may ask?

Marketing costs money!

So what kind of event will this be? Promoting BTC to major busineses? AVG Joe is not going to pay 300$ to get info about BTC.

I can see that there is as well Cristov Atlas would be nice if Dan could introduce him in the XC Platform so that he may start to speak more about it in his program.

I see ther is Mike Maloney as well..Immagine if we could buy gold and silver from maloney website with XC..
newbie
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Some members of the XC Team[myself included] will be at the "Bitcoin in the Beltway: 2014" conference this weekend in Washington, DC.

http://www.bitcoinbeltway.com/


We will have a booth as well.


ATCSECURE


Oef, this looks so much more interesting then that btc conference I whent to in The netherlands. Have fun guys!

Yes but why 300$ for the ticket if I may ask?

Marketing costs money!
hero member
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Merit: 500

Some members of the XC Team[myself included] will be at the "Bitcoin in the Beltway: 2014" conference this weekend in Washington, DC.

http://www.bitcoinbeltway.com/


We will have a booth as well.


ATCSECURE


Oef, this looks so much more interesting then that btc conference I whent to in The netherlands. Have fun guys!

Yes but why 300$ for the ticket if I may ask?
full member
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Some members of the XC Team[myself included] will be at the "Bitcoin in the Beltway: 2014" conference this weekend in Washington, DC.

http://www.bitcoinbeltway.com/


We will have a booth as well.


ATCSECURE


Oef, this looks so much more interesting then that btc conference I whent to in The netherlands. Have fun guys!
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