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Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos - page 1569. (Read 1484246 times)

legendary
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DRK approach vs XC approach

DRK


Imagine if you will that you had a message and you wanted to send it to a friend. Delivering this message is the highest priority of your life and no other person can find out where this message came from.
The standard method used by most coins would require that there are web servers (see above image), “judges” if you will that will be the point of contact between you and your friend. They may pass the message among themselves and or with other individuals until they finally transmit the message to its destination, which will be your friend.


XC approach



The alternative approach to the crowds method is the dual path method. XC has implemented this within its wallet POS feature. This method benefits from the lack of need for a node as each individual is treated independently (see above image). It is fully decentralized and anonymous.

If we were to render the same situation of needing to send a message to a friend using this method instead we would get a completely different scenario.
In this case the request is bounced around independent individuals at random intervals until it has reached you. You would then send your message using the same method although in this case it will follow a completely different path. This means that there is no way of actually telling who the requester or the sender was. There are no nodes or “judges” and each individual will only need to decide the next movement. A complete free form of requesting and sending data.

Its approach to a complete anonymous POS wallet that not only is private but at the same time: its much faster at dealing with network changes, node drops and overall handling of data compared to the crowds approach mentioned above.

XC is also encrypted. And the dev is also working on blockchain v 2.0 later on with encrypted messaging, peer to peer exchange. And to the people spreading lies, the developer is here on linkedin and mentions XC on his page: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-metcalf/12/1a8/b82
member
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DRK hammered 0.022 to 0.016

manipulation everywhere
sr. member
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hi there guys can you help me my wallet isnt sync from 2 days Sad
is there an update sorry for the question but im working day and night shifts and i can't keep in track sometimes  Undecided
legendary
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Can I make a request? FUD-trolls at Poloniex keep claiming that user "loljosh" is the XC-dev. Can we get a solid response on that from the XC dev that we can quote/cite to squash them as needed?

yes, here:

No more FUD Please guys
XC dev,


XC approachInside XC Coin
When we researched XC further we came to see that the technology used allows for anonymous POS wallet and its minting technology was something well worth mentioning.

Crowds vs Dual Path

Crowds


Imagine if you will that you had a message and you wanted to send it to a friend. Delivering this message is the highest priority of your life and no other person can find out where this message came from.
The standard method used by most coins would require that there are web servers (see above image), “judges” if you will that will be the point of contact between you and your friend. They may pass the message among themselves and or with other individuals until they finally transmit the message to its destination, which will be your friend.
Dual Path

The alternative approach to the crowds method is the dual path method. X11 coin has implemented this within its wallet POS feature. This method benefits from the lack of need for a node as each individual is treated independently (see above image). It is fully decentralized and anonymous.
If we were to render the same situation of needing to send a message to a friend using this method instead we would get a completely different scenario.
In this case the request is bounced around independent individuals at random intervals until it has reached you. You would then send your message using the same method although in this case it will follow a completely different path. This means that there is no way of actually telling who the requester or the sender was. There are no nodes or “judges” and each individual will only need to decide the next movement. A complete free form of requesting and sending data.

XC – The future of e-currency anonymity coin

After looking at this coin we can see that there are a great deal of benefits that surround this coin. Its approach to a complete anonymous POS wallet that not only is private but at the same time: its much faster at dealing with network changes, node drops and overall handling of data compared to the crowds approach mentioned above. XC has proven to be something special, and is to shine above other fading other normal x11 coins.

 Grin

Bumping this.
hero member
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I think the rate should be raised to around 5%-7% so that more people take their coins off exchanges and stake them. This will lead to:

1. Reduced sell pressure.
2. Faster and more secure network.

Could possibly lead to:

1. People having more incentive to buy the coin.

There is no extra incentive to buy a coin because PoS is higher.  If this was true, then the price of coins with 10%+ PoS would be skyrocketing. And that's not happening. Also, higher PoS increases sell pressure because supply increases.
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Ascent back to .005 has begun.
sr. member
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Is staking working fine? I'm using v0.9.1.5x11-coin-1.0 (05-28-2014rc1), wallet unlocked and saying I am minting, always with expect time to reward between a few hours or some minutes, yet I never received any stake in these nearly 2 days

Same here I have been staking 8 hours a day for the past week and still no coins, staking with almost 15k coins (over half my coins).

Someone said it can take some people up to two weeks to start staking, I am going to just leave it staking 24 hourse day and if nothing happens in three days I will just put the coins in Cryptsy. I can make more shorting the market than from staking at the moment.

It's working for sure:



With your amount of coins, no surprise Smiley People need to understand that having a few coins at 3.3% yearly reward, will not be bringing in XC rewards fast.

Wondering how long did you hold your XCs? More than 8 days?
newbie
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Definitely like the design of the XC, maybe the colors are too aquatic. I like the idea of more metallic, industrial related colors. Gives it a sense of strength and stability. But still a great design
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Thank you and the other two who replied

Is staking working fine? I'm using v0.9.1.5x11-coin-1.0 (05-28-2014rc1), wallet unlocked and saying I am minting, always with expect time to reward between a few hours or some minutes, yet I never received any stake in these nearly 2 days

Here is the latest wallet, please see the first page:

http://xc-official.com/release/xc-release.rar
sr. member
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I think the rate should be raised to around 5%-7% so that more people take their coins off exchanges and stake them. This will lead to:

1. Reduced sell pressure.
2. Faster and more secure network.

Could possibly lead to:

1. People having more incentive to buy the coin.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

I think it will be relative to the price of 1 XC.
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

Exactly my point, why would i hold my coins at 3.33% when i can cash out and invest at 9% safely

On the other hand: If it would be 10 % or more, XC would need continuous very high buying pressure to keep prices at least stable.
When you are looking for safe investments I don't know why you are in Crypto's anyway. Every single investment in Cryptos is very risky - you can gain 2000 % one day and loose everything on the next.

+ XC is raising more than 10% daily (except the last two days) - why would you miss this profit?

Also remember that when the Xnode has been added to the wallet that you will also collect transaction fees.  

That is true as well, but we need 1000 XC for an xnode and not 100, so we take more coins out of the supply.

The argument for raising the rate doesn't make sense.  It's not interest, you are just getting your share of the emission.   If a high PoS rate is what you are looking for then just pick any crap coin that gives you 10%+.

There are arguments to be made for both sides. As I said my biggest concern is slow and insecure network due to people not staking and/or keeping their coins on exchanges.

The argument just presented for raising the rate is because there is a misconception about what PoS really is.  That makes it a bad argument.  Now, if you think the rate should be raised because people don't really understand PoS and they think a higher rate means more profit, then I guess that's a different argument.
newbie
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On a side note, what is wrong with all these logo submissions? I have seen much better entries for shitcoins like Coin2 and HuskyCoin Sad I would expect similar quallity:

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2mmtgmt.jpg&t=540&c=OVTKEakgaugHHw

then submit one yourself instead of complaining.
legendary
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Im not trying to bring the interest % up.

Im trying to see if theres a solution so that more people dont trade their coins and short XC in the market
sr. member
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As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

I think it will be relative to the price of 1 XC.
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

Exactly my point, why would i hold my coins at 3.33% when i can cash out and invest at 9% safely

On the other hand: If it would be 10 % or more, XC would need continuous very high buying pressure to keep prices at least stable.
When you are looking for safe investments I don't know why you are in Crypto's anyway. Every single investment in Cryptos is very risky - you can gain 2000 % one day and loose everything on the next.

+ XC is raising more than 10% daily (except the last two days) - why would you miss this profit?

Also remember that when the Xnode has been added to the wallet that you will also collect transaction fees.  

That is true as well, but we need 1000 XC for an xnode and not 100, so we take more coins out of the supply.

The argument for raising the rate doesn't make sense.  It's not interest, you are just getting your share of the emission.   If a high PoS rate is what you are looking for then just pick any crap coin that gives you 10%+.

There are arguments to be made for both sides. As I said my biggest concern is slow and insecure network due to people not staking and/or keeping their coins on exchanges.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1000
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

Exactly my point, why would i hold my coins at 3.33% when i can cash out and invest at 9% safely

On the other hand: If it would be 10 % or more, XC would need continuous very high buying pressure to keep prices at least stable.
When you are looking for safe investments I don't know why you are in Crypto's anyway. Every single investment in Cryptos is very risky - you can gain 2000 % one day and loose everything on the next.

+ XC is raising more than 10% daily (except the last two days) - why would you miss this profit?

It's not about the profit it's about securing the network by giving people enough incentive to keep their coins in their wallets and the wallets open.

Yes - but he was asking why he should keep his investments in XC. The 3.33% are not the argument to do so. It's the climbing price because innovative features.
No one ask him to keep his investments, some people will. simple as that. if he don't like the 3.33% then move on, no one force him. the question is a simple FUD. people rather have 3.33% then risk their money flipping day/night.
hero member
Activity: 644
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As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

I think it will be relative to the price of 1 XC.
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

Exactly my point, why would i hold my coins at 3.33% when i can cash out and invest at 9% safely

On the other hand: If it would be 10 % or more, XC would need continuous very high buying pressure to keep prices at least stable.
When you are looking for safe investments I don't know why you are in Crypto's anyway. Every single investment in Cryptos is very risky - you can gain 2000 % one day and loose everything on the next.

+ XC is raising more than 10% daily (except the last two days) - why would you miss this profit?

Also remember that when the Xnode has been added to the wallet that you will also collect transaction fees.  

That is true as well, but we need 1000 XC for an xnode and not 100, so we take more coins out of the supply.

The argument for raising the rate doesn't make sense.  It's not interest, you are just getting your share of the emission.   In theory, the market cap shouldn't change because more coins have been issued pro rata to all holders.  If a high PoS rate is what you are looking for then just pick any crap coin that gives you 10%+.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
Is staking working fine? I'm using v0.9.1.5x11-coin-1.0 (05-28-2014rc1), wallet unlocked and saying I am minting, always with expect time to reward between a few hours or some minutes, yet I never received any stake in these nearly 2 days

Same here I have been staking 8 hours a day for the past week and still no coins, staking with almost 15k coins (over half my coins).

Someone said it can take some people up to two weeks to start staking, I am going to just leave it staking 24 hourse day and if nothing happens in three days I will just put the coins in Cryptsy. I can make more shorting the market than from staking at the moment.

It's working for sure:



With your amount of coins, no surprise Smiley People need to understand that having a few coins at 3.3% yearly reward, will not be bringing in XC rewards fast.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1001
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

It's not meant to be an investment tool.

MINT has a high staking percentage and look what happened to that. Puts extra downward pressure on the price.

One of the beauties of a pure PoS coin with low interest is the minimal amount of new coins produced. Compared to Litecoin producing 20,000 coins per day to be dumped for profit on the market by miners. This is what we will enable us to go sky high in price in the future. The only coins being dumped are by people who bought lower.
sr. member
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So much for "Community"
Less coins being traded on mintpal = better growth

Mintpal sucks compared to the engine of Bittrex.

Just my opinion.  But your point is taken and I do agree.
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